- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: delete per WP:SNOW. This is a blatant attack page, which was correctly deleted per WP:CSD#G10. It was re-created by a non-admin, and per speedy deletion policy it was eligible for further speedy deletion. To prevent its creation again, I have salted it. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:25, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Propose deleting Category:Wikipedians who are a net negative as an influence on Wikipedia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Delete. First, the background. There exists Category:Wikipedians who are not a Wikipedian. Fron what I can piece together from various discussions, the category was created following an insulting comment from one editor to another. Speedy deletion was requested and denied. It was then proposed for deletion and in the couse of that discussion was speedily deleted as an attack category intended to disparage. Discussion then moved to deletion review. In the course of that discussion this category was created. I asked that it be speedy deleted as an attack/disparagement category. It was deleted and the category creator recreated it.
This category should be deleted for several reasons. It is an attack/disparagement category and its name leaves no room for dispute on that point. Saying that an editor has a negative influence on Wikipedia is an insult. That the category creator put himself in it, I assume ironically, does not change that.
The category does not serve the purpose of a Wikipedians category, which is to foster collaboration between Wikipedians. If a Wikipedian's presence on the project is a "net negative" then the likelihood of collaboration between them is low and any such collaboration would likely not benefit or improve the project.
Finally, the category was created in the course of the deletion review, in clear violation of WP:POINT. The project is disrupted by the existence of attack/disparagement categories, it is disrupted when an editor re-creates a category after it's been deleted and it's disrupted when a week-long discussion is forced by the category's creation.
In my opinion the category should again be speedy deleted as an attack and it should be blocked from being recreated (and the creator should be strongly encouraged not to create other similar categories). If it cannot be speedy deleted then it should be deleted per the argument laid out above.
For the record I don't know anything about the underlying dispute and to the best of my knowledge have had no interaction with any of the involved parties outside of what's disclosed in these discussions. Buck Winston (talk) 20:35, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Let the other discussion run its course. There is no need to start a parallel discussion here. If the other category is deleted, then delete this. If the other stays, keep this. No drama. No redundant discussions. Kiefer.Wolfowitz 21:55, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- First, this is not a "parallel discussion". It is a discussion of this category and is independent of the other. Second, regardless of what happens to the other category, this category still needs to go. Third, you should identify yourself as the creator and re-creator of the nominated category. Buck Winston (talk) 22:26, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Buck,
- The discussions are contemporaneous, and the arguments there apply here, so don't waste others' time with a duplicate discussion, unless you have an original thought to contribute. What is new in your verbiage? Kiefer.Wolfowitz 23:33, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.