Deletion review archives: 2009 November

8 November 2009

The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the article above. Please do not modify it.
Leanni Lei (talk|edit|history|logs|links|watch) (XfD|restore)

First realize we are talking about an article about a pornographic film actress, I grant that is a low priority in the overall scheme of things. Many people will not put their reputations forward to back this subject matter. Don't let the general subject cloud the discussion. And don't start using the name of Wikipedia for your censorship campaign.

The original article was posted by someone else, years ago. It was as well researched as an article in this subject as can probably exist. There was a round of editing that added referenced articles two years ago. It has been largely in this state, unbothered, since. It is one of better articles in its niche List of Asian pornographic actors, it is now one of the few missing articles in that niche. The actress retired four years ago, so it is unlikely the subject will advance. Considering the number of Wikipedia articles that will never advance, that's not a valid excuse for deletion.

The accusation of the person making the deletion originally was that the article failed to meet the WP:PROD for WP:PORNBIO but failed to observe that she has won awards and was a featured covergirl in magazines in that niche, has been nominated for a major award in the list, and has appeared in mainstream media (the movie 8mm (film) and a Notorious BIG music video). Close enough on two a certainty on a third point and clearly a trend showing notoriety. Also noted is her significant role working with quite notable Max Hardcore as one of his under-aged looking adult performers on multiple occasions. And while this is not deemed a suitable argument in these circles, its superior credentials compared to many on the above mentioned list. I also added the points that she is listed in all three top listing services in the genre IMDB, IAFD and AFDB, with 152 films to her credit in a 9 year career. None of these points were apparently brought to the attention of the administrator who blindly deleted it in a horde of other deletions he regularly makes. I am witholding a much longer rant itemizing the unfairness of this deletion process. I was sure this deletion was done in error. Apparently not.

I created a new user name in order to post in this stigma-laden genre. I found the original article archived on sites that mirror wikipedia content, added to it and reposted it. That article came under attack for copyright violations (even though it was copied from the original wikipedia article. It got a speedy deletion without any consideration. I doubt anybody even looked at the discussion page. And the original discussion was so effectively deleted that I can find no record of any serious discussion before it was deleted. --OsamaPJ (talk) 10:53, 8 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment it does look like the deletion as a copyvio maybe incorrect at the source history seems to suggest it was indeed copied from here (The is no User:RussBot on that wiki and the links in the edit summary are to a WP: page). However restoring the content by cut and paste from that wiki wasn't the correct course of action. WP:PROD can be undone by contesting the deletion and should be automatically restored. That's not to say a deletion discussion can't then take place and the content be deleted. If the article is as per the other wiki I can't see it surviving, since it is pretty much unreferenced. --82.7.40.7 (talk) 12:29, 8 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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