The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by Scorpion0422 23:14, 20 January 2009 [1].

List of Popotan episodes[edit]

List has been said by Goodraise and, a bit ago, Scorpion0422 to be FL worthy. I cleaned up the few remaining issues Goodraise mentioned.じんない 03:24, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I did? -- Scorpion0422 19:10, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Back a while you said at the time it was close to it, but still needed improvements, especially in the episode summaries, which i edited.じんない 21:26, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I said it "looks ready to attempt a FLC". You make it sound like I said it met WP:WIAFL. Please be more careful when refering to others. I would also have liked to get informed of this. -- Goodraise (talk) 07:01, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs) Needs a copy-edit, preferably by someone outside WP:ANIME. These are examples from the lead and the first two summaries.

With 2 exceptions, I made those changes. The first, is with the first point. I changes to "inside a mansion and talking to" because the suggestion you made it sound like the mansion is the one that converses, which isn't true and the other was with "While she attends school, she decides this time to aggressively distance herself". Since the anime does not explore the past, but uses context, it is impossible to say which schools; nor does it even mention any names and deliberately keeps things vague, however, it is clear from the episode's context that Mai has done this before because she talks about repeating the same scenerio.じんない 05:12, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Still not there The prose has not improved to FL standards yet. Have you found a third-party copy-editor yet? There seems to be a dearth of those at WP:ANIME, which is a shame. These examples are from the tenth episode.

I'll see if I can find someone from PRV, but i've not had luck there before for anime articles. I corrected the stuff you mentioned (plus some other stuff), minus the last one since by correcting the one before it, it should clarify what the "jump" refers to.じんない 20:21, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

IMBD was used to back up ANN for Akio Watanabe's alias being Poyoyon Rock only. If you still believe it should be removed, I can easily do so. I think i've fixed the rest of the issues.じんない 03:58, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I would prefer for IMBD to be removed. Refs 7 and 14 still need publishers. Ref 12 still has Anime News Network not in italics, while the other instances of it are. Dabomb87 (talk) 04:37, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, i removed the IMDB ref. I noted the publsher on ref 13 (form 13) and italicized the last ANN cite. Ref 7 i replaced since it was from an unreliable source i missed.じんない 10:51, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

::That is generated by the template, so I don't know what's wrong. NM.じんない 17:14, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

The first general reference was fine as long as it can be be checked as appropriate from other sites for English titles, which the DVDs themselves do. I do not have to, according to the guideline, put that in, but just be able to point out that the names can be verified by a second source. 2 and 3 fall under the 1st statement for which the names can also be verified by the DVD and the publication dates can be verified by Bandai visual's website, however because Anime News Network is considered reliable for those and WP:NONENG states English sources are better over non-English ones, then for this ANN is better.
For 9 abd 10, those are reviews which fall under "or news, reviews, and release information, ANN is a reliable source and close to being a newspaper of record for anime and manga." If you are disputing that, this is not the place to start an argument that would affect almost every article under WP:ANIME. Scratch that. I was thinking of the main article at the time.じんない 21:26, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Actually this is the place to raise it. They are considered reliable if the release, news etc. are within the http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/press-release, or http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news areas. However the references you use are in the http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia area and this is not considered reliable as anybody can contribute this information. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 21:41, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The information for 2 and 3 and general info (which applies to episode titles) I can change to the DVDs if you insist, but per the description given, it seems to be okay. As air dates, that falls under WP:NONENG and also that the statement is generally considered reliable, but still needs to be backed up. Because NONENG also applies here, just being able to show that the information does exist on bandai and on TBS should be enough since both are non-English sources. It does not say that such a source needs to be backed up in the artilce itself, only that I can demonstrate that it does exist.

[...] However, because the encyclopedia portion is user-edited, that information is not reliable by Wikipedia standards. That said, it is the experience of this WikiProject that the ANN's encyclopedia can be used with care for certain kinds of information:

  • Generally reliable but try to confirm these with a second source: production staff, producers/publishers, air/publication dates
  • Not very reliable and so use only with confirmation from other sources: biographical data, episode title translations
  • [...]

じんない 21:54, 20 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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