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user has already been noted for copyright violations : St John's University article violates copyright infringement. [1] based from http://www.redstormsports.com/about/traditions.

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. -Nv8200p talk 02:38, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Huh? Isn't this the Air Force logo? In other words, isn't this public domain as United States government image? If not please explain, thanks. IvoShandor 09:18, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I would say, yes. No need to explain, Keep. How would this be original research? It doesn't seem to fall under any of the criteria at WP:NOR. If it does please point it out. Confused as to what "released unofficially" means here. I was under the impression that all government images are public domain, presumably from the moment they are created, regardless of the "officialty" of their release. IvoShandor 09:28, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Also the image's metadata implies it was created in 2004, hardly anything new, as the uploader implied. IvoShandor 09:29, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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speedy deleted under G12. The image was from the Associated Press, a commercial content provider who relies upon the licensing of their content to websites that provide information and analysis to readers. When not used in articles about such information providers themselves, our use is not obviously transformative, and does not obviously have no commercial impact on the copyright holder. Images from commercial information providers such not be uploaded to Wikipedia to illustrate our articles on the subject of the photograph unless those images themselves are the subject of analysis or educational commentary. Please see Wikipedia:Fair use for more information. Jkelly 22:28, 28 March 2007 (UTC) Believing the speedy deletion to be premature (for reasons noted in a comment below, I undeleted the image, notified Jkelly on his talk page, and have reopened the IfD. --MCB 06:34, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Please see below regarding the economic issue. --MCB 06:48, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Fair use is not a violation of a copyright holder's rights; it is a fundamental part of copyright law. --MCB 06:48, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
True, but unrelated to my point. My point is that the fact that "Probably we will never find a free picture" doesn't automatically give us any special right (i.e., it doesn't automatically make using the image fair use). --Abu badali (talk) 14:36, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Two factors: first, the image is very small (380 × 264 pixels), low-resolution, and unsuitable for print media or archival uses. (Criterion #2 in WP:FU makes reference to "Large copyrighted photographs from agencies"; this is a tiny image.) Second, the major economic value of the work has already been realized. A private party or stringer sold the photo to AP (or else it was taken by an AP staffer), and AP distributed it under its contracts with print and electronic media to supply timely news and news photographs. Those uses, during the news cycle for a disaster of the moderate scale of the crash, represent nearly the entire economic value of the work. Reproductions, inclusion in searchable archives, annual compilations, etc., are very small in comparison, and any economic damage to them is highly speculative and questionable. --MCB 06:48, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but your analysis is what sounds speculative. "print media or archival uses" is not the only market for news images. They are used on the Internet, increasing a given website's value.
As you explained, AP paid for this image and distributed it for it's customers under a contract. If we use it freely, we're undermining AP business. --Abu badali (talk) 14:36, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Can you give some concrete examples of the market for paid re-use on the Internet, and the approximate value of that re-use? The photographer has already been paid for the image. AP has already been paid for the image. What portion of the total market is left, and how does Wikipedia's use affect it? Facts, please, not speculation. --MCB 18:27, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Surely. I know of an informative website about this event whose authors have an interest in using this image. This is a concrete market opportunity to AP. You can access this site here [2] --Abu badali (talk) 20:07, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm afraid I don't know what you are referring to -- that link is to a Wikipedia article. --MCB 00:04, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The wikipedia article is the informative website about this event I was talking about. Our use of the image is a lost market opportunity to AP. --Abu badali (talk) 15:39, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That does not make any sense to me. Wikipedia does not pay for content, and there's no scenario under which our unpaid use of the image would replace our paid use for the image; Wikipedia is not a market opportunity. Again, can you cite an actual, concrete market opportunity that is foreclosed by Wikipedia's use of the image? --MCB 22:06, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Correct me if I'm wrong: By your rationale, I can set up a web site called worldHotNews.com with breaking news (and images) I copy from reuters, AP, and UP. But as long as I have a policy to never pay for content I copy from news providers, I'm free to copy content from news providers? This is like saying "I would never buy a Software from this company, so I'm entitled to steal one." --Abu badali (talk) 16:06, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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speedy deleted under G12. The image was from the Associated Press, a commercial content provider who relies upon the licensing of their content to websites that provide information and analysis to readers. When not used in articles about such information providers themselves, our use is not obviously transformative, and does not obviously have no commercial impact on the copyright holder. Images from commercial information providers such not be uploaded to Wikipedia to illustrate our articles on the subject of the photograph unless those images themselves are the subject of analysis or educational commentary. Please see Wikipedia:Fair use for more information. Jkelly 22:28, 28 March 2007 (UTC) Believing the speedy deletion to be premature (for reasons noted in a comment below, I undeleted the image, notified Jkelly on his talk page, and have reopened the IfD. --MCB 06:34, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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hmm the source features some screenshots. Maybe it would be better to use them. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 17:36, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Now on Commons. HandigeHarry 12:36, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Error in name. HandigeHarry 12:36, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Not really fair use as it fails Where no free equivalent is available or could be created that would adequately give the same information since a free replacement can be made if desired. -- Drini 16:31, 28 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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