Wikipedia Mediation Cabal

Article	Ganas
Status	Closed
Request date	20:47, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
Requesting party	Campoftheamericas (talk)
Mediator(s)	1234r00t (1234r00t (talk · contribs))

Request details

Please see [1] and move to this section if required

Where is the dispute?

All of Eroberer's edits since she started on Wikipedia. You will need to learn about Ganas, Jeff Gross, Rebekah Johnson, Mildred Gordon, and Feedback Learning. The war by RJ was waged for over 10 years, why should she stop now? Read and decide for yourself. I don't think the war should be part of Wikipedia.

Who is involved?

Just a list of the users involved. For example:

What is the dispute?

User:X has a POV, and willing to kill, if necessary, regarding article Y

That doesn't give us any information at all. Mr R00t ^Talk ^'tribs

It means that you won't have much luck negotiating with Eroberer. Campoftheamericas (talk) 21:21, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What would you like to change about this?

I would like to stop putting effort into this

Does that mean that you don't wish for us to do anything or does it mean that you want us to do all of it? Mr R00t ^Talk ^'tribs

Meant I would like someone to take over in making the Ganas article not be an attack, which I assume you would agree with. Campoftheamericas (talk) 21:18, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How do you think we can help?

I don't know, how can you help?

I can help with making sure everything stays civil and making sure everyone understands how the policies actually are supposed to be interpreted. Mr R00t ^Talk ^'tribs

More involvement is what I wanted, it will help counterbalance Eroberer's negativity Campoftheamericas (talk) 21:23, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mediator notes

Before I start, could you fill out the What is the dispute? section? It would really help. And how could only one person be involved? Please clear that up quickly so I can solve whatever the problem is. Mr R00t ^Talk ^'tribs 05:37, 27 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Administrative notes

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LTC b2412 Troops Talk MedCab Talk? 10:02, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

I am an otherwise uninvolved person. I like the idea of intentional community and monasticism. My observation is that some people have a built-in bias against intentional communities or communes unless they are associated with an ancient religious denomination (e.g. are catholic monasteries). Ganas has a lot of detractors, and there are good reasons for this. There is no reason that the entire article should be a critique. Ganas is notable in a lot of ways that don't have to do with the (now uninvolved) founder's batshit craziness, or the extraordinary way that some people at ganas spend hours and hours and hours on processing sessions.

I observe that both parties have fairly thin editing histories, but erober seems to have an edit history that only relates to this article and a couple of similar ones. As an additional observation, I submit to you that I don't think the two parties are editing in good faith any more. Defenestrate (talk) 16:33, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]