Miscellany for deletion (MfD) is a place where Wikipedians decide what should be done with problematic pages in the namespaces which aren't covered by other specialized deletion discussion areas. Items sent here are usually discussed for seven days; then they are either deleted by an administrator or kept, based on community consensus as evident from the discussion, consistent with policy, and with careful judgment of the rough consensus if required.

Filtered versions of the page are available at

Information on the process[edit]

What may be nominated for deletion here:

  • Pages not covered by other XFD venues, including pages in these namespaces: Draft:, Help:, Portal:, MediaWiki:, Wikipedia: (including WikiProjects), User:, TimedText: and the various Talk: namespaces
  • Userboxes (regardless of namespace)
  • Pages in the File namespace that have a local description page but no local file (if there is a local file, Wikipedia:Files for discussion is the right venue)
  • Any other page, that is not in article space, where there is dispute as to the correct XfD venue.

Requests to undelete pages deleted after discussion here, and debate whether discussions here have been properly closed, both take place at Wikipedia:Deletion review, in accordance with Wikipedia's undeletion policy.

Before nominating a page for deletion[edit]

Before nominating a page for deletion, please consider these guidelines:

Deleting pages in your own userspace
  • If you want to have your own userpage or a draft you created deleted, there is no need to list it here; simply tag it with ((db-userreq)) or ((db-u1)). If you wish to clear your user talk page or sandbox, just blank it.
Duplications in draftspace?
  • Duplications in draftspace are usually satisfactorily fixed by redirection. If the material is in mainspace, redirect the draft to the article, or a section of the article. If multiple draft pages on the same topic have been created, tag them for merging. See WP:SRE.
Deleting pages in other people's userspace
  • Consider explaining your concerns on the user's talk page with a personal note or by adding ((subst:Uw-userpage)) ~~~~  to their talk page. This step assumes good faith and civility; often the user is simply unaware of the guidelines, and the page can either be fixed or speedily deleted using ((db-userreq)).
  • Take care not to bite newcomers – sometimes using the ((subst:welcome)) or ((subst:welcomeg)) template and a pointer to WP:UP would be best first.
  • Problematic userspace material is often addressed by the User pages guidelines including in some cases removal by any user or tagging to clarify the content or to prevent external search engine indexing. (Examples include copies of old, deleted, or disputed material, problematic drafts, promotional material, offensive material, inappropriate links, 'spoofing' of the MediaWiki interface, disruptive HTML, invitations or advocacy of disruption, certain kinds of images and image galleries, etc) If your concern relates to these areas consider these approaches as well, or instead of, deletion.
  • User pages about Wikipedia-related matters by established users usually do not qualify for deletion.
  • Articles that were recently deleted at AfD and then moved to userspace are generally not deleted unless they have lingered in userspace for an extended period of time without improvement to address the concerns that resulted in their deletion at AfD, or their content otherwise violates a global content policy such as our policies on Biographies of living persons that applies to any namespace.
Policies, guidelines and process pages
  • Established pages and their sub-pages should not be nominated, as such nominations will probably be considered disruptive, and the ensuing discussions closed early. This is not a forum for modifying or revoking policy. Instead consider tagging the policy as ((historical)) or redirecting it somewhere.
  • Proposals still under discussion generally should not be nominated. If you oppose a proposal, discuss it on the policy page's discussion page. Consider being bold and improving the proposal. Modify the proposal so that it gains consensus. Also note that even if a policy fails to gain consensus, it is often useful to retain it as a historical record, for the benefit of future editors.
WikiProjects and their subpages
  • It is generally preferable that inactive WikiProjects not be deleted, but instead be marked as ((WikiProject status|inactive)), redirected to a relevant WikiProject, or changed to a task force of a parent WikiProject, unless the WikiProject was incompletely created or is entirely undesirable.
  • WikiProjects that were never very active and which do not have substantial historical discussions (meaning multiple discussions over an extended period of time) on the project talk page should not be tagged as ((historical)); reserve this tag for historically active projects that have, over time, been replaced by other processes or that contain substantial discussion (as defined above) of the organization of a significant area of Wikipedia. Before deletion of an inactive project with a founder or other formerly active members who are active elsewhere on Wikipedia, consider userfication.
  • Notify the main WikiProject talk page when nominating any WikiProject subpage, in addition to standard notification of the page creator.
Alternatives to deletion
  • Normal editing that doesn't require the use of any administrator tools, such as merging the page into another page or renaming it, can often resolve problems.
  • Pages in the wrong namespace (e.g. an article in Wikipedia namespace), can simply be moved and then tag the redirect for speedy deletion using ((db-g6|rationale= it's a redirect left after a cross-namespace move)). Notify the author of the original article of the cross-namespace move.
Alternatives to MfD
  • Speedy deletion If the page clearly satisfies a "general" or "user" speedy deletion criterion, tag it with the appropriate template. Be sure to read the entire criterion, as some do not apply in the user space.

Please familiarize yourself with the following policies[edit]

How to list pages for deletion[edit]

Please check the aforementioned list of deletion discussion areas to check that you are in the right area. Then follow these instructions:

Instructions on listing pages for deletion:

To list a page for deletion, follow this three-step process: (replace PageName with the name of the page, including its namespace, to be deleted)

Note: Users must be logged in to complete step II. An unregistered user who wishes to nominate a page for deletion should complete step I and post their reasoning on Wikipedia talk:Miscellany for deletion with a notification to a registered user to complete the process.

I.
Edit PageName:

Enter the following text at the top of the page you are listing for deletion:

((mfd|1=((subst:FULLPAGENAME))))
for a second or subsequent nomination use ((mfdx|2nd))

or

((mfd|GroupName))
if nominating several similar related pages in an umbrella nomination. Choose a suitable name as GroupName and use it on each page.
If the nomination is for a userbox or similarly transcluded page, use ((subst:mfd-inline)) so as to not mess up the formatting for the userbox.
Use ((subst:mfd-inline|GroupName)) for a group nomination of several related userboxes or similarly transcluded pages.
  • Please include in the edit summary the phrase
    Added MfD nomination at [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/PageName]]
    replace PageName with the name of the page that is up for deletion.
  • Please don't mark your edit summary as a minor edit.
  • Check the "Watch this page" box if you would like to follow the page in your watchlist. This may help you to notice if your MfD tag is removed by someone.
  • Save the page
II.
Create its MfD subpage.

The resulting MfD box at the top of the page should contain the link "this page's entry"

  • Click that link to open the page's deletion discussion page.
  • Insert this text:
((subst:mfd2| pg=((subst:#titleparts:((subst:PAGENAME))||2))| text=Reason why the page should be deleted)) ~~~~
replacing Reason... with your reasons why the page should be deleted and sign the page. Do not substitute the pagename, as this will occur automatically.
  • Consider checking "Watch this page" to follow the progress of the debate.
  • Please use an edit summary such as
    Creating deletion discussion page for [[PageName]]

    replacing PageName with the name of the page you are proposing for deletion.
  • If appropriate, inform members of the most relevant WikiProjects through one or more "deletion sorting lists". Then add a ((subst:delsort|<topic>|<signature>)) template to the nomination, to insert a note that this has been done.
  • Save the page.
III.
Add a line to MfD.

Follow   this edit link   and at the top of the list add a line:

((subst:mfd3| pg=PageName))
Put the page's name in place of "PageName".
  • Include the discussion page's name in your edit summary like
    Added [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/PageName]]
    replacing PageName with the name of the page you are proposing for deletion.
  • Save the page.
  • If nominating a page that has been nominated before, use the page's name in place of "PageName" and add
((priorxfd|PageName))
in the nominated page deletion discussion area to link to the previous discussions and then save the page using an edit summary such as
Added [[Template:priorxfd]] to link to prior discussions.
  • If nominating a page from someone else's userspace, notify them on their main talk page.
    For other pages, while not required, it is generally considered civil to notify the good-faith creator and any main contributors of the miscellany that you are nominating. To find the main contributors, look in the page history or talk page of the page and/or use TDS' Article Contribution Counter or Wikipedia Page History Statistics. For your convenience, you may add

    ((subst:mfd notice|PageName)) ~~~~

    to their talk page in the "edit source" section, replacing PageName with the pagename. Please use an edit summary such as

    Notice of deletion discussion at [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/PageName]]

    replacing PageName with the name of the nomination page you are proposing for deletion.
  • If the user has not edited in a while, consider sending the user an email to notify them about the MfD if the MfD concerns their user pages.
  • If you are nominating a WikiProject, please post a notice at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council, in addition to the project's talk page and the talk pages of the founder and active members.

Administrator instructions[edit]

XFD backlog
V Apr May Jun Jul Total
CfD 0 0 5 31 36
TfD 0 0 0 6 6
MfD 0 0 0 3 3
FfD 0 0 0 19 19
RfD 0 0 4 21 25
AfD 0 0 0 6 6

Administrator instructions for closing and relisting discussions can be found here.

Archived discussions[edit]

A list of archived discussions can be located at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Archived debates.

Current discussions[edit]

Pages currently being considered for deletion are indexed by the day on which they were first listed. Please place new listings at the top of the section for the current day. If no section for the current day is present, please start a new section.

July 16, 2024

User:TheRealJackMarshall

User:TheRealJackMarshall (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

WP:NOTWEBHOST violation. Bgsu98 (Talk) 03:42, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:TheRealJackMarshall/sandbox

User:TheRealJackMarshall/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

WP:NOTWEBHOST violation. Bgsu98 (Talk) 03:39, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The user has blanked the page. Good. A statement from the user would be nice. Maybe they never knew? SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:18, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

July 15, 2024

Draft:2029 in American television

Draft:2029 in American television (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Yes, this is a draft, and while things don't have to be perfect, a 5 year crystal ball is pushing it. Q T C 23:19, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See Also:

Draft:2026 in American television (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Draft:2027 in American television (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Draft:2028 in American television (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Do not pump junk drafts through MfD.
These pages do not actually fail WP:CRYSTAL, they don’t document future events, they are empty tables, templates. SmokeyJoe (talk) 08:39, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Portal:Billy Murray (singer)

Portal:Billy Murray (singer) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

No useful content Frietjes (talk) 14:24, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Robert McClenon (talk) 23:44, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Ambasing

Draft:Ambasing (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

While Ambasing is a real place, this page is mostly vandalism. The demographics section appears to be real, but is taken entirely from another page (I can't post a link to it because of the spam blacklist), word-for-word. Tymewalk (talk) 05:06, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

July 14, 2024

Draft:Nations Unbound Great Cyber War

Draft:Nations Unbound Great Cyber War (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Blatant WP:NOTWEBHOST violation. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 15:09, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Moldovan userbox templates

Template:User mo (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Template:User mo-0 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Template:User mo-1 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Template:User mo-2 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Template:User mo-3 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Template:User mo-4 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Delete userboxes. ISO 639 code for Moldovan, mo, has been deprecated. (https://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/code_changes.php) --Lucjim (talk) 21:38, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. So, some language codes for the Moldovan language have been deprecated. Redirect past usage to what should be used going forwards, don’t just delete the old, but valid, usage. SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:34, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. It does not matter that the ISO 639 code for Moldovan was deprecated. The code can be deprecated and the userboxes can stay as they are.—Alalch E. 10:12, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

July 12, 2024

Talk:Khaled Mashal/Third intifada

Talk:Khaled Mashal/Third intifada (edit | subject | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

The content of this page was merged here in 2007 after an AfD was closed with disposition to merge the content into Khaled Mashal (mentioned on the talk page here). Unless it was later removed (I haven't checked super thoroughly), that doesn't seem to have ever actually happened. But especially looking at this 17 years later, I'm not sure there's anything worth merging in here. The arguments for this were basically already made in the AfD. And if no one's actually ever going to merge this content, this page has no reason to exist. Kinsio (talkcontribsrights) 19:25, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

July 9, 2024

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Msalauddind89/sandbox
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 06:50, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

User:Msalauddind89/sandbox[edit]

User:Msalauddind89/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Unattributed copy of Ahmed Sofa. Created over three years ago with no attempt to work on the content. plicit 11:55, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

User:Drbogdan/BogdanDennis-PhD-Dissertation-1973

User:Drbogdan/BogdanDennis-PhD-Dissertation-1973 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Appears to be a semi-complete and search-engine indexed version of a page that was recently deleted through MfD, which can be found at Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:Drbogdan/BogdanDennis-PhD-Dissertation-1973-TEXT, from a user who has been CBANed for promotional content. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 22:51, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Old business[edit]


July 8, 2024

User:UBX/Juve Merda

User:UBX/Juve Merda (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

This was nominated at the wrong venue (TFD). This is a procedural nomination on my part and I express no opinion on the merits. The original nominating statement is:

Offensive against Juventus Football Club, "merda" in Italian is a vulgar word equivalent to "shit"Qwerty 9706 (talk) 11:35, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note that, somewhat confusingly, Qwerty 9706 is the TfD nom. Nickps (talk) 18:38, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oops. I accidentally removed my own signature when I deleted excess copied material when I made the MFD nomoination -- Whpq (talk) 18:40, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I thought about telling you but it felt like splitting hairs, so I just added a note here. Nickps (talk) 18:44, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Would renaming the template be a viable option? Something like "No Juve"? The Banner talk 21:48, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good to me. We might want to ask @SignedInteger for an opinion on the name, since they are apparently the only person that uses this. Nickps (talk) 22:01, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am aware of its name but admittedly I was searching for something more humorous because, as my page says: "Some of the contents of this user page are not meant to be taken seriously, but I'm sure you already knew that." I do think renaming it would work because I am only using it as a humorous userbox and not out of actual ill intent against Juventus or Juventus fans. SignedInteger (talk) 22:06, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also I noticed my page has this notice on it now: "This user page is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy.
Please discuss the matter at this page's entry on the Miscellany for deletion page.
You are welcome to edit this page, but please do not blank, merge, or move it, or remove this notice, while the discussion is in progress. For more information, see the
Guide to deletion
."
I have no clue why this appeared and checking the edit history of my page shows nobody added it so I think it may be a bug. SignedInteger (talk) 22:08, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, that appeared because of a mistake with tagging the userbox. It should be fixed now. Nickps (talk) 22:22, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

July 7, 2024

Wikipedia:WikiProject Colonial Empires/Userbox/CEBASICBOX

Wikipedia:WikiProject Colonial Empires/Userbox/CEBASICBOX (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Wikipedia:WikiProject Colonialism was redirected and is no longer a project or task force. Gonnym (talk) 09:59, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

13:15, 26 June 2024Joe Roe talk contribs‎  60 bytes −3,268‎   Redirected page to Wikipedia:WikiProject History
User:Joe Roe, why did you do that?
I think the default action should be to redirect all subpages of Wikipedia:WikiProject Colonialism to Wikipedia:WikiProject Colonialism. That is, archive all subpages as redirects to the redirect. Is there a reason not to? SmokeyJoe (talk) 11:06, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There was a consensus to do so at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject History#Merge inactive history WikiProjects. Sorry, I forgot to add an edit summary. I've no objection to redirecting all the subpages. I retained some because the might be of historical interest and others because they have no incoming links anyway so it didn't seem worth the hassle. – Joe (talk) 11:18, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. By default, I think it’s better to preserve history of anything ever used, unless it should never have been created. However, if someone, especially someone from the WikiProject, has a rationale for deleting over archiving (history behind redirects), then I have no objection to deletion. I think wikiarchiology is a good thing to be allowed to happen, and that deletion requests should give at least lip service to why archiving is not a good idea. SmokeyJoe (talk) 11:24, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per User:Joe Roe. Archive. SmokeyJoe (talk) 13:02, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

July 5, 2024

Talk:2024 Atlantic hurricane season/ACE calcs

Talk:2024 Atlantic hurricane season/ACE calcs (edit | subject | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​
(Time stamp for bot to properly relist.) ltbdl (talk) 01:04, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is in clear violation of Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Tropical_cyclones/Archive_43#RFC:_ACE_Calcs; this is nothing but an WP:INDISCRIMINATE collection of info if it's not going to be used in the article. Also WP:NOTDATABASE, WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Jasper Deng (talk) 22:01, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Contention 1: Talk:2023 Atlantic hurricane season/ACE calcs still exists. Talk:2022 Atlantic hurricane season/ACE calcs still exists.
Contention 2: The discussion was closed by LightandDark2000 back in 2020, which reads:
Although there is some dispute as to how this should be done, it appears that the consensus is to use the figures from a trusted source. However, our ACE calculations can also be used as placeholders in lieu of more reliable figures.
As far as I can tell, we.. never figured out how exactly we're supposed to go about this. (Not that I knew that this was a discussion that was had until today, but that's my own fault.) We as a WikiProject (myself included from time to time) continue to update the operational portion of 2024/ACE. I do not know entirely why. I do not know entirely how. At this point, not entirely sure what deleting 2024 would be worth unless we nuked... everything. ~ AC5230 talk 06:18, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ltbdl (talk) 01:04, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Closed discussions[edit]

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Archived debates