Miscellany for deletion (MfD) is a place where Wikipedians decide what should be done with problematic pages in the namespaces which aren't covered by other specialized deletion discussion areas. Items sent here are usually discussed for seven days; then they are either deleted by an administrator or kept, based on community consensus as evident from the discussion, consistent with policy, and with careful judgment of the rough consensus if required.

A filtered version of the page that excludes nominations of pages in the draft namespace is available at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion no drafts.

Information on the process[edit]

What may be nominated for deletion here:

  • Pages not covered by other XFD venues, including pages in these namespaces: Draft:, Help:, Portal:, MediaWiki:, Wikipedia: (including WikiProjects), User:, TimedText:, Gadget:, Gadget definition:, and the various Talk: namespaces
  • Userboxes (regardless of namespace)
  • Files in the File namespace that have a local description page but no local file (if there is a local file, Wikipedia:Files for discussion is the right venue)
  • Any other page, that is not in article space, where there is dispute as to the correct XfD venue.

Requests to undelete pages deleted after discussion here, and debate whether discussions here have been properly closed, both take place at Wikipedia:Deletion review, in accordance with Wikipedia's undeletion policy.

Before nominating a page for deletion[edit]

Before nominating a page for deletion, please consider these guidelines:

Deleting pages in your own userspace
  • If you want to have your own userpage or a draft you created deleted, there is no need to list it here; simply tag it with ((db-userreq)) or ((db-u1)). If you wish to clear your user talk page or sandbox, just blank it.
Duplications in draftspace?
  • Duplications in draftspace are usually satisfactorily fixed by redirection. If the material is in mainspace, redirect the draft to the article, or a section of the article. If multiple draft pages on the same topic have been created, tag them for merging. See WP:SRE.
Deleting pages in other people's userspace
  • Consider explaining your concerns on the user's talk page with a personal note or by adding ((subst:Uw-userpage)) ~~~~  to their talk page. This step assumes good faith and civility; often the user is simply unaware of the guidelines, and the page can either be fixed or speedily deleted using ((db-userreq)).
  • Take care not to bite newcomers – sometimes using the ((subst:welcome)) or ((subst:welcomeg)) template and a pointer to WP:UP would be best first.
  • Problematic userspace material is often addressed by the User pages guidelines including in some cases removal by any user or tagging to clarify the content or to prevent external search engine indexing. (Examples include copies of old, deleted, or disputed material, problematic drafts, promotional material, offensive material, inappropriate links, 'spoofing' of the MediaWiki interface, disruptive HTML, invitations or advocacy of disruption, certain kinds of images and image galleries, etc) If your concern relates to these areas consider these approaches as well, or instead of, deletion.
  • User pages about Wikipedia-related matters by established users usually do not qualify for deletion.
  • Articles that were recently deleted at AfD and then moved to userspace are generally not deleted unless they have lingered in userspace for an extended period of time without improvement to address the concerns that resulted in their deletion at AfD, or their content otherwise violates a global content policy such as our policies on Biographies of living persons that applies to any namespace.
Policies, guidelines and process pages
  • Established pages and their sub-pages should not be nominated, as such nominations will probably be considered disruptive, and the ensuing discussions closed early. This is not a forum for modifying or revoking policy. Instead consider tagging the policy as ((historical)) or redirecting it somewhere.
  • Proposals still under discussion generally should not be nominated. If you oppose a proposal, discuss it on the policy page's discussion page. Consider being bold and improving the proposal. Modify the proposal so that it gains consensus. Also note that even if a policy fails to gain consensus, it is often useful to retain it as a historical record, for the benefit of future editors.
WikiProjects and their subpages
  • It is generally preferable that inactive WikiProjects not be deleted, but instead be marked as ((WikiProject status|inactive)), redirected to a relevant WikiProject, or changed to a task force of a parent WikiProject, unless the WikiProject was incompletely created or is entirely undesirable.
  • WikiProjects that were never very active and which do not have substantial historical discussions (meaning multiple discussions over an extended period of time) on the project talk page should not be tagged as ((historical)); reserve this tag for historically active projects that have, over time, been replaced by other processes or that contain substantial discussion (as defined above) of the organization of a significant area of Wikipedia. Before deletion of an inactive project with a founder or other formerly active members who are active elsewhere on Wikipedia, consider userfication.
  • Notify the main WikiProject talk page when nominating any WikiProject subpage, in addition to standard notification of the page creator.
Alternatives to deletion
  • Normal editing that doesn't require the use of any administrator tools, such as merging the page into another page or renaming it, can often resolve problems.
  • Pages in the wrong namespace (e.g. an article in Wikipedia namespace), can simply be moved and then tag the redirect for speedy deletion using ((db-g6|rationale= it's a redirect left after a cross-namespace move)). Notify the author of the original article of the cross-namespace move.
Alternatives to MfD
  • Speedy deletion If the page clearly satisfies a "general" or "user" speedy deletion criterion, tag it with the appropriate template. Be sure to read the entire criterion, as some do not apply in the user space.

Please familiarize yourself with the following policies[edit]

How to list pages for deletion[edit]

Please check the aforementioned list of deletion discussion areas to check that you are in the right area. Then follow these instructions:

Instructions on listing pages for deletion:

To list a page for deletion, follow this three-step process: (replace PageName with the name of the page, including its namespace, to be deleted)

Note: Users must be logged in to complete step II. An unregistered user who wishes to nominate a page for deletion should complete step I and post their reasoning on Wikipedia talk:Miscellany for deletion with a notification to a registered user to complete the process.

I.
Edit PageName:

Enter the following text at the top of the page you are listing for deletion:

((mfd|1=((subst:FULLPAGENAME))))
for a second or subsequent nomination use ((mfdx|2nd))

or

((mfd|GroupName))
if nominating several similar related pages in an umbrella nomination. Choose a suitable name as GroupName and use it on each page.
If the nomination is for a userbox or similarly transcluded page, use ((subst:mfd-inline)) so as to not mess up the formatting for the userbox.
Use ((subst:mfd-inline|GroupName)) for a group nomination of several related userboxes or similarly transclued pages.
  • Please include in the edit summary the phrase
    Added MfD nomination at [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/PageName]]
    replace PageName with the name of the page that is up for deletion.
  • Please don't mark your edit summary as a minor edit.
  • Check the "Watch this page" box if you would like to follow the page in your watchlist. This may help you to notice if your MfD tag is removed by someone.
  • Save the page
II.
Create its MfD subpage.

The resulting MfD box at the top of the page should contain the link "this page's entry"

  • Click that link to open the page's deletion discussion page.
  • Insert this text:
((subst:mfd2| pg=((subst:#titleparts:((subst:PAGENAME))||2))| text=Reason why the page should be deleted)) ~~~~
replacing Reason... with your reasons why the page should be deleted and sign the page. Do not substitute the pagename, as this will occur automatically.
  • Consider checking "Watch this page" to follow the progress of the debate.
  • Please use an edit summary such as
    Creating deletion discussion page for [[PageName]]

    replacing PageName with the name of the page you are proposing for deletion.
  • Save the page.
III.
Add a line to MfD.

Follow   this edit link   and at the top of the list add a line:

((subst:mfd3| pg=PageName))
Put the page's name in place of "PageName".
  • Include the discussion page's name in your edit summary like
    Added [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/PageName]]
    replacing PageName with the name of the page you are proposing for deletion.
  • Save the page.
  • If nominating a page that has been nominated before, use the page's name in place of "PageName" and add
((priorxfd|PageName))
in the nominated page deletion discussion area to link to the previous discussions and then save the page using an edit summary such as
Added [[Template:priorxfd]] to link to prior discussions.
  • If nominating a page from someone else's userspace, notify them on their main talk page.
    For other pages, while not required, it is generally considered civil to notify the good-faith creator and any main contributors of the miscellany that you are nominating. To find the main contributors, look in the page history or talk page of the page and/or use TDS' Article Contribution Counter or Wikipedia Page History Statistics. For your convenience, you may add

    ((subst:mfd notice|PageName)) ~~~~

    to their talk page in the "edit source" section, replacing PageName with the pagename. Please use an edit summary such as

    Notice of deletion discussion at [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/PageName]]

    replacing PageName with the name of the nomination page you are proposing for deletion.
  • If the user has not edited in a while, consider sending the user an email to notify them about the MfD if the MfD concerns their user pages.
  • If you are nominating a Portal, please make a note of your nomination here.
  • If you are nominating a WikiProject, please post a notice at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council, in addition to the project's talk page and the talk pages of the founder and active members.

Administrator instructions[edit]

XFD backlog
V Apr May Jun Jul Total
CfD 0 4 126 96 226
TfD 0 0 0 2 2
MfD 0 0 0 2 2
FfD 0 0 0 2 2
RfD 0 0 0 3 3
AfD 0 0 0 25 25

Administrator instructions for closing and relisting discussions can be found here.

Archived discussions[edit]

A list of archived discussions can be located at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Archived debates.

Current discussions

Pages currently being considered for deletion are indexed by the day on which they were first listed. Please place new listings at the top of the section for the current day. If no section for the current day is present, please start a new section.

July 24, 2022

User:Chanrwy/The First Degree University Tour

User:Chanrwy/The First Degree University Tour (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Stale draft from inactive editor. Seems commercial and not necessarily noteworthy. Beland (talk) 16:53, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

User:ChanelDior/Camille Styles

User:ChanelDior/Camille Styles (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Stale draft from inactive editor. Unclear notability. Beland (talk) 16:47, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

User:Chandu575/Gundlapadu

User:Chandu575/Gundlapadu (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Stale draft from inactive editor. Unreferenced and in need of cleanup. Maybe better to just start over? Village is listed at List of villages in Guntur district. Beland (talk) 16:46, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

User:Chandlery21/ Badtameez Dil

User:Chandlery21/ Badtameez Dil (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Stale draft from inactive editor. Not sure this movie ever happened? It's not in the IMDB. Badtameez Dil was a redirect to Dharma Productions for a while, and now it's a redirect to a different movie for reasons I don't understand. Beland (talk) 16:41, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Montreal International Games Summit

Talk:Montreal International Games Summit (edit | subject | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Orphaned talk page, no longer accurate. FAdesdae378 02:20, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:East midtown partnership

Draft:East midtown partnership (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Very stale draft from inactive editor, declined at AFC. Beland (talk) 01:02, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

July 23, 2022

User:CharlesBlake/Jared Sims

User:CharlesBlake/Jared Sims (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Very stale draft from inactive editor; declined at AFC. Beland (talk) 20:54, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

User:CharlesLark/Fletcher Liegerot

User:CharlesLark/Fletcher Liegerot (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Very stale draft from inactive editor. Beland (talk) 20:41, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

User:CharleDragon/Penguin Ballet by Nigel Wesklake

User:CharleDragon/Penguin Ballet by Nigel Wesklake (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Very stale draft from inactive editor. Beland (talk) 20:37, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

User:Charest204/Sarnia Celebration of Lights

User:Charest204/Sarnia Celebration of Lights (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Very stale draft from inactive editor. Beland (talk) 20:36, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

User:Chaplainlma/James Rowe Adams

User:Chaplainlma/James Rowe Adams (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Very stale draft from inactive user. Unclear this person is notable? Beland (talk) 20:31, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, James Rowe Adams was previously deleted. -- Beland (talk) 20:32, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Under WP:G12. IF G12 applies to this page, apply it. If not, the G12 deletion is not relevant. SmokeyJoe (talk) 02:58, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

User:Charliebasil/Nick Vertucci

User:Charliebasil/Nick Vertucci (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Very stale user draft, not usable. Beland (talk) 20:27, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

User:IWikepidsacusk

User:IWikepidsacusk (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​
User:Kashment (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​
User:Cobrafang (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​
User talk:Kashment (edit | subject | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​
User talk:Cobrafang (edit | subject | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Pointless user page for an account that hasn't edited in a while. Mori Calliope fan talk 07:47, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thelma Harper (2nd nomination)/mass delete

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thelma Harper (2nd nomination)/mass delete (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Sad, strange, little non-standard subpage of an AfD containing several redlinks to talk pages of long-deleted articles. Orphaned, so it wasn't linked to from anywhere, or used for anything, at any point. Its only purpose is to clog up scripts and bots that process AfDs, and needlessly throw errors. jp×g 06:22, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Did you ask it’s creator? SmokeyJoe (talk) 07:33, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The script left a message on their talk page, although their userpage says they are semi-retired, although although they have been editing fairly regularly lately. I guess it's up to them. jp×g 18:27, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Your nomination reads as needling. Was it meant to? SmokeyJoe (talk) 06:42, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

July 22, 2022

Draft:Amogh V P

Draft:Amogh V P (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​
Draft:Amogh Vijayaraghavan Poonakar
Draft:Amogh V P

Two copies of an unreferenced biography of a living person. The YouTube link is not really a reference but an external link.

Autobiographical, but that is not, in itself, the reason to delete the drafts. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:49, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:American Oddballs

Draft:American Oddballs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Where do we go with this nonsense? I propose we delete this. Drmies (talk) 02:13, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Draft:Unusual America is identical to this draft minus the pejorative title. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 02:15, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oh God, the editor just made another one?? Inventing "Draft" has many consequences. Drmies (talk) 02:17, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete both drafts - Classifying whether someone or something is an "oddball" or "unusual" is not something that should ever be done in Wikipedia's voice and never with respect to living people or people that fall into a topic area under discretionary sanctions even if attributed. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 02:47, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete both - Per Jéské - RichT|C|E-Mail 02:54, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per BLP policy. This user is also spamming on WP:AFCHD. QiuLiming1 (talk) 03:38, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It is also on the border of G10 of WP:CSD. QiuLiming1 (talk) 03:43, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all incarnations of this list for being against many of the prohibitions given by WP:NOT, like "no essays", "no soapboxes", "not a directory", etc. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 15:44, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

July 21, 2022

Draft:Association for the Defense of Animals and Nature

Draft:Association for the Defense of Animals and Nature (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Okay, so I find myself not wanting to do this, but we're in a dangerous spiral of not-actually-getting-anywhere. The article that this draft is based off was deleted a couple of weeks back, and I opted to keep the draft undeleted so that it could theoretically be worked on (the AFD was primarily for notability purposes). However, IPs have been tendentiously resubmitting the draft, though they do seem to be slowly improving it as well. On the other hand, reviewers have been (what I feel is a bit excessively) reverting many of the IP edits for socking, even reasonable improvements to the page. So, we have two options; either delete the draft outright as unsuitable and unlikely to be successfully improved due to IP editing, or we let the IP improve the draft (i.e. we don't continually revert them) and actually give their reviews a chance to be, well, reviewed. Primefac (talk) 09:45, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also, for the sake of everyone's sanity, I have semi-protected the draft for the duration of this MfD. If anyone objects or thinks this is heavy-handed I am happy to reverse this decision. Primefac (talk) 09:46, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It’s ok to userfy off Draftify post AfD deletion, but if someone doesn’t understand the need to respect the AfD, then better to leave it deleted for six months, and to G4 any recreation. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 12:31, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

User:Sander.v.Ginkel/Creating Wikipedia pages with Excel

User:Sander.v.Ginkel/Creating Wikipedia pages with Excel (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Per WP:BEANS; supports unauthorized semi-automated mass creation of articles. BilledMammal (talk) 03:36, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

July 19, 2022

Draft:AmirsalarArzanly

Draft:AmirsalarArzanly (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Possible autobiography Uricdivine (talk) 23:22, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject United States/US related unreferenced BLPs

Wikipedia:WikiProject United States/US related unreferenced BLPs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

This page is no longer updated regularly as the bot who maintains it User:DASHBot was blocked and deactivated in 2013 after it started malfunctioning and none of the corresponding pages have been updated since then. TartarTorte 16:16, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Not sure for what purpose this was created, but WikiProject United States never had enough active members to deal with this. — Maile (talk) 17:26, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Pathaan (film)

Draft:Pathaan (film) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Draft:Pathaan (film)

This draft is one of multiple reincarnations of articles on a planned big-budget film. This version was created in October 2021 by a sockpuppet, but has been subsequently edited by both good-faith and bad-faith editors, and has been in article space once before being draftified. Other versions have also been in article space. The promoters of the film appear to be trying to confuse the jury with multiple copies of articles. This version was rejected on 7 January 2022, and has since been nominated for deletion, which was No Consensus at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Pathan (film), and has been almost constantly edited by IP addresses, so that its history is confused.

There is now another draft at Draft:Pathaan (2023 film). The (2023) version can be the version that is edited. We don't need two versions in draft space. (We don't need any versions in article space yet.) Robert McClenon (talk) 06:32, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

July 18, 2022

All prior XfDs for this page:

Draft:Diligent Blesslee

Draft:Diligent Blesslee (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

This is recreation of recently deleted article as per G11 Deletion Log , also identified author used multiple accounts editing this article. Deleted article created by 074arjun (Log), this draft created by David81KL . edits using both accounts this draft page related, could be a sockpuppet situation and again clearly shows creator of the article has against wikipedia policy per COI , G11 .

Another issues regarding this article; subject does not meet WP:NMUSIC / WP:COMPOSER because there are no works in multiple notable productions other than being a participant of a reality shows. The subject also lacks significant coverage WP:SIGCOV. Apparently one of the contestant of Bigg Boss which is alone not sufficient for notability per WP:BIGBROTHER -JoxinVerified User 05:38, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

July 15, 2022

Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Brescia IP

Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Brescia IP (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Report unfinished after about a year. From link, vandalism appears to be obvious so LTA case is not needed and discouraged per WP:DENY PHANTOMTECH [TALK] 20:19, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That's totally irrelevant, because their edits definitely fall into the categories for which LTA is recommended. Beyond My Ken (talk) 08:38, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Beyond My Ken Recommended where and by who? That section is part of what defines the categories for which LTA is recommended. The heading "Don't use LTA unless needed" is a direct instruction to not use LTA with the text below it explaining when that instruction applies. PhantomTech[talk] 00:57, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The LTA fulfills the requirements necessary. Your analysis is obviously incorrect. Please return to making edits you actually understand. Beyond My Ken (talk) 08:27, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Beyond My Ken Again, are you able to provide any source or are you going to stick to personal attacks? PhantomTech[talk] 08:30, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Debearing egu 77

Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Debearing egu 77 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Vandalism is obvious, LTA case not need and discouraged per WP:DENY PHANTOMTECH [TALK] 20:19, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

July 14, 2022

Template talk:Mukims of Brunei-Muara

Template talk:Mukims of Brunei-Muara (edit | subject | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Template that has been merged with almost no history in talk page. - nathanielcwm (talk) 06:54, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Conversely: why keep useless history? - nathanielcwm (talk) 14:47, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Template talk:Diplomatic missions in Brunei Darussalam

Template talk:Diplomatic missions in Brunei Darussalam (edit | subject | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Talkpage for a moved template that has almost no history. - nathanielcwm (talk) 06:48, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

July 10, 2022

User:咽頭べさ

User:咽頭べさ (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

WP:NOTWEBHOST or WP:PROMOTION. 03:32, 10 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Old business


July 15, 2022

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia talk:Requests for mediation/John Favalora
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: keep. plicit 14:57, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia talk:Requests for mediation/John Favalora[edit]

Wikipedia talk:Requests for mediation/John Favalora (edit | subject | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Old historical mediation from 2007, not needed for any purpose that I know of. Andrevan@ 12:15, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia talk:Requests for mediation/John Favalora/page1
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: keep. plicit 14:59, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia talk:Requests for mediation/John Favalora/page1[edit]

Wikipedia talk:Requests for mediation/John Favalora/page1 (edit | subject | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)​

Old historical mediation from 2007, not needed for any purpose that I know of. Andrevan@ 12:15, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep - That isn't a valid reason to delete something. --🌈WaltCip-(talk) 14:35, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as historical. We don't delete old historical XfDs, arbcom cases, dismissed ANI reports, sockpuppet investigations, etc. Just because the case is not ongoing doesn't mean it must be deleted. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 20:14, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep as per the previous editors, but is there a reason why the mediator wants to delete this case file? I am just cynical enough to wonder whether the nominator has a reason that we shouldn't support (as opposed to no reason). Robert McClenon (talk) 02:11, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Robert McClenon: it was a mediation involving, as I recall, Sexual abuse scandal in the Archdiocese of Miami. I know nothing about the topic, it was a difficult mediation and I didn't really get anywhere with it. I have no connection to the case or the participants. As to why I nominated these for deletion, as I recall, back in the day, we did sometimes delete privileged mediations, but it's been quite some time and the MEDCOM is long since defunct. As to why pragmatically, I thought, perhaps naively, that John Favalora or his family (I don't know anything at all about them other than what I learned from the mediation) might not want this thing kicking around about him forever. I also kind of don't care to be associated with it, to be honest, but if you want to WP:SNOW close these as keep, I guess them's the breaks. Andrevan@ 02:32, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      Well, now that at least makes sense, deleting it essentially to WP:OVERSIGHT. But I don't believe MFD is the correct venue for that; you'd either want to speak to ArbCom or the Oversight team. 🌈WaltCip-(talk) 16:34, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      Am aware of oversight, but I thought simply deleting it would be easier, since it really shouldn't be too controversial. But that's fair. It's also on me for not really explaining it well. From my understanding, OS won't OS it unless there's a specific reason under the OS policy. Andrevan@ 19:30, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • How about I just blank the pages and snow close these. If anyone really wants it they can find it in the history. Sounds ok or no to the blanking idea? Andrevan@ 21:16, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    Blanking old resolved or obsolete user matters is perfectly suitable for blanking by someone who understands what it was all about. SmokeyJoe (talk) 11:03, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

Closed discussions

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Archived debates