The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Closed discussion. MfD is for deleting a page, not forcing discussion to a larger audience for the purpose of exposure. If you don't intend to have the page deleted entirely, please work through the community ways of cleaning up a page. An additional note that this is not a certification of keep or delete or no consensus. Keegantalk 05:56, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]


User:Sharkface217/Award Center[edit]

While this is a good idea, I feel it sorely needs restructuring, and certain "challenges" need to be deleted. I mentioned my concerns here, and my concerns still stand. While the "challenges" that involve actual work, such as improving articles to GA status, is a good idea, challenges such as Recent Changes Patrol, this whole section, this, and this, to name a few, are serious issues that need addressing, and I think, these ones specifically, need deletion. Steve Crossin (talk) (review) 20:07, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • some sections are actually useful, but others ought to be nuked --Enric Naval (talk) 20:24, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This isn't about what I told or spoke to them. I've seen this as an issue for quite some time, I decided to take it to MFD today. Nothing to do with what they said. Steve Crossin (talk) (review) 20:30, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I may not be PC, but those are my thoughts.--Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim Fan (talk) 21:11, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WP:REWARD, while commonly a monetary reward can be offered, is also becoming common practice to offer other rewards, such as one person editing an article in exchange for the other user editing another article. Reward centre seems partially redundant to me. Steve Crossin (talk) (review) 21:17, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
And Steve, it would be wise to just ask the sponsors of those challenges to take them down. --SharkfaceT/C 21:25, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Agree, some of the challenges are very good, and it would be a big loss to delete the whole page. I'd be very happy with just blanking or striking the offending sections. --Enric Naval (talk) 21:47, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Eric, WBOSITG already did that and I asked him to revert his changes (which he graciously did). I'd rather this go on a bit longer, with more educated debate, before we come to a consensus. --SharkfaceT/C 21:58, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The same could have been said about this. In userspace, still was an issue. Steve Crossin (talk) (review) 23:08, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Furthermore, this page encourages a combination of both good and bad editing. As I have said, if we move this to the projectspace we could establish a broad concensus upon which subprojects should continue. It already functions as one, except Sharkface has the last say because it is in the userspace. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 23:11, 11 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Close this MfD, because it's not a page deletion proposal - this is the wrong forum. XfD is not for getting content deleted from pages - that's what talk pages are for. This MfD is a proposal to modify a page's design and operating procedures. It involves deletion of parts of a page, and therefore, normally it should be posted on that page's discussion page, and not here. But, this nomination is basically attempting to tell people what they can and can't award barnstars for, and neither this nor the Award Center is the proper forum for this discussion - such a proposal should be posted to Wikipedia talk:Barnstars! What's with you guys? Someone should close this discussion - I'd do it, but because I created the Award Center, it would be a conflict of interest. The Transhumanist 04:34, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally, the Award centre talk page would get minimal exposure from the Wikipedia community. Steve Crossin (talk) (review) 04:41, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You are disagreeing with established policy. According to Wikipedia:Deletion policy:

Disputes over page content are not dealt with by deleting the page. Likewise, disagreement over a policy or guideline is not dealt with by deleting it. Similarly, issues with an inappropriate user page can often be resolved through discussion with the user.

The Transhumanist 05:01, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The deletion policy also authorizes admins to close XfD discussions like this and refer them to the appropriate forums:
The content issues should be discussed at the relevant talk page, and other methods of dispute resolution should be used first, such as listing on Wikipedia:Requests for comments for further input. Deletion discussions that are really unresolved content disputes may be closed by an administrator, and referred to the talk page or other appropriate forum.
I'll be glad to discuss the uses of barnstars on Wikipedia talk:Barnstars. The Transhumanist 05:15, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And, from Sharkface,

. Discussion here. This needs Wikipedian input, not on a page where limited discussion would occur. Steve Crossin (talk) (review) 05:11, 12 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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