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Hello, I am listing this article on which I have been working on during the past year, with the goal of bringing it to the FA level. I am usually more active on the French Wikipedia instance and am less familiar on the exact criteria around here; I would be very happy to get some feedback. A particular thing I am thinking about: I introduced a Data Analysis section, which is relevant to the article, but the article has grown quite a bit. I am thinking about splitting it, but I do not know how this works related to FA (does the split off article count?); in the case it is split, I would also link it from the LIGO page as it is relevant to both experiments. Side note: there is one thing that I definitely intend to change, which is the diagram with the French labels; I have prepared a replacement but am still getting feedback from other people on it, so you can ignore it for the time being. EDIT : The replacement has been done.

Thanks, Thuiop (talk) 22:38, 2 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Thuiop, I am taking this one up and will post my comments by Sunday. Cheers. Matarisvan (talk) 17:53, 9 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Apologies for the delay, I said I would get my comments in by Sunday but couldn't, I will post all of them by tomorrow. I first went through the sources, as a first step, I would suggest translating the titles of all the sources and the journals/books they are drawn from. Another thing I would like to note is that the article size is ~150,000 bytes, which is quite large. Anything above 100,000 is not viewed favorably and reviewers suggest splitting the article. So we are gonna have to trim this significantly, tough task but can be done. Looking forward to working on this and getting your comments, Thuiop. Cheers. Matarisvan (talk) 12:52, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello @Matarisvan, and thanks for your interest ! Thanks for the suggestion regarding the sources, I will do that.
Regarding the size of the article, indeed I feared it might be an issue ; this is part of the reason I thought about splitting the data analysis section. This should already save around 30000 bytes (minus the text needed to replace it). I will start thinking about other places where the article could be trimmed. Thuiop (talk) 13:46, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi @Thuiop and @Matarisvan, just to clarify, the 100,000-character limit applies to readable prose size. The current readable prose size is 53863 characters (9086 words), which is on the long side, but might also be justified depending on the importance of the topic. – Epicgenius (talk) 17:06, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ah, right. This make more sense, thanks. I think splitting the data analysis section may still be warranted but I'm glad that I do not need to worry too much about the length. Thuiop (talk) 19:02, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks, this is very helpful because we won't have to worry too much about trimming the size anymore. Matarisvan (talk) 04:08, 13 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Done. Also translated titles for all the non-english references Thuiop (talk) 14:00, 14 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Great. Could you also translate the journal title Sitzungsberichte der Königlich Preussischen Akademie der Wissenschaften, I assume it means 'Journal of the King's Purssian Academy of Sciences'? It is source #10. I will get back soon with more comments. Matarisvan (talk) 15:04, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

General comments

More comments soon. Matarisvan (talk) 13:32, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Will do. EDIT : did it, but this does take a lot of place in the infobox.
  • The reason I did not do this in the first place is that those 850 people do not represent the staff working at the detector, only people who are part of the collaboration ; perhaps I should also add the on-site staff.
  • Yes.
  • Exactly what is written. The Virgo Collaboration is an entity built for congregating the researchers working on Virgo.
  • I would like to avoid this, as there may be confusion between the Virgo Collaboration and the dectector Virgo. While the collaboration can informally be called "Virgo", I don't think it hurts to be precise here. Besides, it is not repeated that many times through the article.
Thuiop (talk) 00:27, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
There are 30 instances of the words 'Virgo Collaboration'. Seems to be too much, you should use it the first time only & use just Virgo all the other times. Matarisvan (talk) 09:00, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Out of these 30 instances, 21 are within the references (mostly because "The Virgo Collaboration" is listed as an author on some papers), and for the 9 in the main body, there is 1 in the intro (summarizing what the Virgo Collaboration is), 3 in the Organization section (which is about describing the organisational structure, so you ought to be precise ; also actually one of those is "LIGO-Virgo Collaboration" which is a distinct entity), 3 are in the infobox, and the remaining two are scattered within the article. So overall, this seems an acceptable number to me (but please feel free to comment if you think that one of these particular instances should be switched to just "Virgo". Thuiop (talk) 10:21, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I would suggest changing 'regrouping' to 'which consolidates'. The grammar comes off better, and 'regrouping' is very confusing. Matarisvan (talk) 14:23, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ok. This is probably a false friend, in French it does not seem strange. I have replaced it by "consolidates" in one place and "gathers" in another. Thuiop (talk) 14:30, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks, much better now.

Source review

This was just formatting, I will have to do spot checks later. Cheers. Matarisvan (talk) 15:53, 28 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks for the thourough review ; I started implenting these. I actually think that the collaborations should be left in the author fields for the various APS journal publications ; these are not the affiliations, but an optional field specifically for collaborations which is allowed by these journals. Thuiop (talk) 21:10, 29 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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