Dismount Theory for the Origin of Avian Flight
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- Editors involved in this dispute
- Cookiecutteramaru (talk · contribs) – filing party
- FunkMonk (talk · contribs)
- Dinoguy2 (talk · contribs)
- Articles affected by this dispute
- Origin of Avian Flight
- Other attempts at resolving this dispute that you have attempted
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- Primary issues (added by the filing party)
- Should the latest draft of the dismount theory be added to the Origin of Flight article?
- Should Funkmunk be allowed to derail a discussion that was leading to an agreement between flexible parties, by prematurely referring the discussion for comments?
Funkmunk never showed any willingness to compromise or work towards a consensus.
Dinoguy2 initially dismissed the dismount theory but later read the paper,[1] and gave me the chance to respond to his questions, leading him to propose a compromise that I would restrict the dismount theory to the Origin of Avian Flight article and modify wording. I accepted the proposal from Dinoguy2 and offered specific terms. Rather than waiting for Dinoguy2 to confirm his support for the agreement, Funkmonk chose to derail a discussion that seemed to be leading to an agreement between those parties that were working towards a compromise. I tried summarize my position next to polarizing arguments made by Funkmunk on the comment page, but found that I was unable to access that page.
- Additional issues (added by other parties)
- User:Cookiecutteramaru is the author of the source in question which was newly published in a journal that has had reliability issues raised. The hypothesis is newly published (within the last month prior to the dispute) and has not yet been addressed or vetted by any other published sources aside from the initial peer reviewers of the paper. The hypothesis is new and radical in that it differs significantly from previous hypotheses concerning the origin of flight. I and other editors have commented that the hypothesis appears too broad to ever become testable and it is our opinion that if and when other published sources address the hypothesis it is highly unlikely to find support without major revisions. If this hypothesis is to be discussed in encyclopedic articles, it meets the criteria for WP:Fringe and should be limited in scope (only the main topic article Origin of birds and not all individual articles for the assortment of species mentioned as examples in the paper) and in length (1-2 lines maximum that highlight the dubious nature of the hypothesis). Dinoguy2 (talk) 11:44, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Additional issue 2
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- Agree. Cookiecutteramaru (talk) 08:36, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Agree. Dinoguy2 (talk) 11:44, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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