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Suspected sockpuppeteer

Weareallone (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

Suspected sockpuppets

Papillonbleu (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

76.170.67.99 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

71.53.27.42 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

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Delicious carbuncle (talk) 05:30, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Evidence

Edits largely confined to Marilyn Monroe-related topics, and anything to do with Mark Bellinghaus. Similar edit style, language, and lack of formatting on talk page edits. Currently involved in alternating, rambling edits in this AfD discussion.

In this edit, User:76.170.67.99 self-identifies as Mark Bellinghaus.

User:Weareallone makes the exact same revert as User:71.53.27.42 did, on the talk page of a known antagonist of Mark Bellinghaus.

Comments

This is a ridiculous accusation. I am not User:Weareallone. How can one person make two edits almost simultaneously as in this history?

1. (cur) (last) 05:27, 9 March 2008 Papillonbleu (Talk | contribs) (20,044 bytes) (→The U.S. and Monroe) (undo)
2. (cur) (last) 05:26, 9 March 2008 Weareallone (Talk | contribs) (18,991 bytes) (minor punctuation correction, posted more info about class action lawsuit press coverage, added link to CBS News article) (undo)

As I noted, User:Delicious carbuncle also appears to have interests in Marilyn Monroe, Mark Bellinghaus and Lee Strasberg, considering this user had started by revising my edits on the latter two of the three.

I have also contributed to other topics including Pinkberry, Kenneth Cole and The Hotel Del Coronado, not just topics indicated by User:Delicious carbuncle.

--Papillonbleu (talk) 06:01, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Absolutely impossible, because how could I be 'Papillonbleu,' if I had several run-ins and editing conflicts while adding links and reference links to the page on which papillonbleu was working on at the same time as I was. It simply doesn't make sense, or does it? You can easily check on that. Why would I have as 'delicious carbuncle' is claiming two IP addresses and three user names? This is absolutely outrageous and I already filed against delicious carbuncle, since I can now also suspect that user to be someone who posted hate and slanderous and false accusations on her Wikipedia discussion page. PEACE Weareallone (talk) 06:25, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I believe User:Weareallone has reconsidered their position that I may be a sockpuppet of user:mafhoney. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 07:06, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My only edits (two) to Mark Bellinghaus were to add tags and to nominate it at AfD. I had been unaware of Bellinghaus' existence until his name was inappropriately added to an article on my watchlist. Any comment on your connection to either of the IPs? Delicious carbuncle (talk) 14:21, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For completeness sake, 76.171.186.171 (talk · contribs) appears to be another Bellinhaus account (only contributions are adding links to Bellinghaus YouTube videos), now stale. Same ISP and geographic area as 76.170.67.99 (talk · contribs). Delicious carbuncle (talk) 14:30, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What in the world?!?!!! Yes, I did undo the talk page in good faith of User talk:Hilljayne. This is because Hilljayne has attacked me and other Jayne Mansfield Fans outside of Wiki and invented lies about Mark Bellinghaus, which were carried over by Hilljayne to Wiki. Hilljayne tried to get the whole article deleted for copyright infringement about Mark Bellinghaus, then got a reprimand for violating WP:BLP, and Hilljayne tried to cover tracks by deleting the editor's warning and false speedy deletion report from own talk page. What Hilljayne did appeared to be deceptive to me, which is why I did this revision and returned it back, and did so in good faith for the Wiki community. Why is Hilljayne's action being condoned when that user in particular is being deceptive? Why am I being penalized for assisting the community here?

I am not anyone's sockpuppet either. Remove me from this argument immediately. Thanks.

--71.53.27.42 (talk) 16:31, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Just in case anyone actually ever looks at this, I'll add in another of Bellinghaus' older accounts, Mmmovie (talk · contribs). Bellinghaus self-identifies here. Same pattern of adding Mark Bellinghaus to lists as Weareallone (talk · contribs) and self-identified Bellinghaus IP 76.170.67.99 (talk · contribs). Delicious carbuncle (talk) 04:03, 17 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Just by going through the edit history of Mark Bellinghaus, I found another earlier IP account 76.168.210.190 (talk · contribs). Bellinghaus again self-identifies here. So that's three self-identified accounts doing COI edits, plus the suspected sockpuppets. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 04:29, 17 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment to Delicious carbuncle: You appear to have issues based on this (talk)with being overbearing as an editor. You seem to be wikistalking people and harassing them based on the notes on your user page. You wikistalked me by following me from Lee Strasberg to Mark Bellinghaus and then reverting edits that I put in, and then when I put them in, re-reverted them based on your own personal opinions. I am not a sockpuppet. This is the second piece of evidence that I am not. How can I make an edit practically simultaneously as the editor that you are claiming is my sockpuppeteer? We are working on two totally different subjects.

Here's more proof that I'm not a sockpuppet of Weareallone. Some was already furnished before. Here's more:

User:Papillonbleu • 00:37, 17 March 2008 (hist) (diff) Kenneth Cole (designer)‎ (Add source to marital information, moved placement of information about residence) User:Weareallone • 00:38, 17 March 2008 (hist) (diff) Talk:Peaches Geldof‎ (→Peaches Geldof: more thoughts) --Papillonbleu (talk) 03:36, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am clearly not wikistalking you, as a quick check of our contributions will show. I'm not sure what, specifically, you're referring to on my talk page, but I am not wikistalking or harassing you or anyone else, nor is this the place to debate it. If you feel my actions are questionable, report me. Accusing me of something is not "proof" that you are not a sockpuppet. Getting back to the sockpuppetry case, sockpuppets and meatpuppets are considered the same for the purposes of sockpuppetry cases (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets second paragraph). Delicious carbuncle (talk) 14:16, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Conclusions

Insufficient evidence to take action at this time, though the situation deserves further monitoring. If there is sock puppetry, sooner or later more evidence will appear. Jehochman ^Talk 01:20, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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