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Template:VVMAP/flickr

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The result of the discussion was Delete --Alexf(talk) 12:23, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Template:VVMAP/flickr (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Should probably be CSD'ed but I'm bring it here anyway. User created. Being used to include author and Flickr link within actual image thumb which is not proper as image pages already have such info. See how it's being used currently at Gaslamp Quarter, San Diego. - ALLSTRecho wuz here @ 21:59, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'd also suggest deletion of ((VVMAP/YouTube)) too (as well as its redirects at Template:VVMAP/media and Template:VVMAP/Video) since it's the same thing except only a YouTube version. I'll also point out that these appear to be part of Wikipedia:WikiProject VVMAP, which is a project created by the creator of these templates. No issue here with the project but they need to get an understanding about templates and such. - ALLSTRecho wuz here @ 07:00, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Code block template

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The result of the discussion was subst and delete. –Black Falcon (Talk) 01:57, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Category:Code block templates (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

The reasoning behind these templates seems to be a little mean spirited. Mike92591 (talk) 21:09, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

They seem silly to me. I originally intended to edit mergesort just now to remove an extraneous linebreak outside the code blocks. Then I caught a glance at two code block templates, which gave me pause along with a "What in the f—wait. Seriously?" Clicking through, it's unclear to me exactly what purpose these serve. So the fragments have their own history separate from the main article. There's the suggestion on the code block templates category page that this eliminates errors from poorly reasoned drive-by edits since they're harder to get to. I'm not sure what kind of fallacious reasoning allowed someone to arrive at the notion of equating familiarity with MediaWiki to being an authority on the subject. -- C. A. Russell (talk) 01:44, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Now looking at Wikipedia:Template namespace, it's obvious to me that the use of these templates is really wrong. First, the names given to the templates themselves give no indication of the contents, but that's due to what's really at issue here: trying to shoehorn the role of templates to fulfill whatever purpose was being pursued at the time these were created. And I hate to keep referring to these as templates because all that's really being done is exploiting transclusion. These are single purpose templates that will only ever be used on the pages they were created for, and they specifically go against the directive about masquerading as article content. Subst and delete all templates in category. -- C. A. Russell (talk) 02:09, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The point of these templates was not to discourage editing, I emphasize. It was to allow the histories of these blocks to be monitored and tracked separately from the history of the main article, to prevent incorrect good-faith edits from getting lost in the history before they're reviewed. However, I don't have enough data to ascertain whether or not they have had any success in serving this purpose - the obvious disadvantage is that the main page is more likely to be watched, and that they're harder to edit. They were intended as an experiment, which is why I did not apply them to all articles containing pseudocode. I invite criticism of the idea and its de-implementation if consensus favours that, but I assure you this was not intended as a means of limiting access to content. I also advertised them widely at the time I created them and received very little feedback one way or another. Dcoetzee 03:01, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm a little confused. Wouldn't that only be an issue if it was edited extremely frequently? Mike92591 (talk) 17:14, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Or if the history were reviewed rarely, which is often the case for this class of article. The experiment was motivated by articles with months-old errors in code blocks that had not been reviewed and corrected. It's not proving to be very effective though, and ideally a better solution will be designed in the future. Dcoetzee 21:26, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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NFL Position Templates

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The result of the discussion was keep (no consensus) Erik9 (talk) 00:56, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Template:NFLStartingQuarterbacks (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:CurrentNFLKickers (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:CurrentNFLPunters (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Current NFL long snappers (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

As per the consensus brewing for the MLB position templates, I say these template should be considered as well. It's not encyclopedic to list them all as such, and it's quite outdated during an off-season. Muboshgu (talk) 20:54, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Perfectly normal templates, very useful. They aren't meant to be updated during the offseason because there is no "Starter" during the offseason. RF23 (talk) 22:27, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Image-license

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The result of the discussion was keep as historical.
--William Allen Simpson (talk) 18:07, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Image-license (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Deprecated template, Imbox is now used for this purpose. ViperSnake151  Talk  20:17, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:BLP probably unsourced

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The result of the discussion was keep. The template has been modified to more clearly reflect the purpose.
--William Allen Simpson (talk) 17:51, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Template:BLP probably unsourced (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Redundant to Template:Unsourced BLP, the fact this says its for BLP's that are "probably" unsourced made me chuckle a bit. ViperSnake151  Talk  14:27, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. That being the case, it should be noted clearly within the banner text that the tag has been placed by an automated process request that the reader either remove it or replace it with ((Unsourced BLP)). wjematherbigissue 09:21, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
OK, that makes sense, but the template itself does not. Per wjemather I would suggest rewriting it so that it says something like "This article has been identified by a bot as being probably unsourced" (I'm sure someone else could do better, but you get the idea). I'll quite happily withdraw my delete comment if these concerns are addressed. PC78 (talk) 15:26, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Or, why not add some sort of "bot=yes" paramater to ((Unsourced BLP)) saying something like "This tag was placed by an automatic process, if this tag was placed in error, please remove it" instead? ViperSnake151  Talk  22:17, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've modified the template to clarify its usage [2]. If there's a consensus to merge to Template:BLP unsourced, it will be necessary for an administrator to add a "bot" parameter to the latter template, as it is fully protected. However, I can use my bot, under Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Erik9bot 7, to convert all existing instances of Template:BLP probably unsourced to appropriately parameterized calls to Template:BLP unsourced. Erik9 (talk) 02:35, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'd suggest "auto=yes" with two possible courses of action: if the tag is placed in error, remove it (still: is there something which will prevent it from being added again?); if the tag is correctly placed, remove the "auto=yes" parameter. GregorB (talk) 12:45, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:The 2008 Open Championship at Royal Birkdale Golf Club

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The result of the discussion was Delete Philosopher Let us reason together. 03:24, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Template:The 2008 Open Championship at Royal Birkdale Golf Club (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused and unnecessary template apparently created for use on a single page. wjematherbigissue 12:29, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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All American Football League roster templates

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The result of the discussion was Delete all Philosopher Let us reason together. 03:21, 13 May 2009 (UTC) Roster templates for teams of a football league that has been proposed since 2006, with its debut pushed back (an unofficial term for "folded") for four years. Most players are non-notable, making a collection of them even less useful. These can be re-created if the league ever actually starts, and they are deemed useful. Grsz11 03:01, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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