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Kidnapping of Hersh Goldberg-Polin

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Hamas has abducted over 250 individuals. The article does not state why the individual is notable enough for a specific article about their kidnapping in particular. نعم البدل (talk) 15:22, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• Merge to Israel–Hamas war hostage crisis. News coverage on its own is routine primary coverage and does not meet WP:GNG. If the target page becomes too long, we have the option to WP:SIZESPLIT to List of kidnappings in the 2023 Hamas-led attack on Israel or something similar. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 16:18, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Delete or Merge into an article discussing the Kidnappings. نعم البدل (talk) 19:34, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Stuart N. Brotman

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The article was created by Gbrotman (talk · contribs) in 2009, so there is likely COI. The article is heavily promotional in tone, and lacks citations to reliable sources that would indicate a WP:GNG pass. Looking on scholar [1], I'm just not seeing enough citations to pass WP:PROF. Hemiauchenia (talk) 18:30, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• Delete. No pass of WP:Prof or WP:GNG. This extraordinarily bloated and vainglorious BLP needs immediate extirpation. Xxanthippe (talk) 03:44, 27 January 2024 (UTC).Reply[reply]
• Delete: Concur with the above. Fourteen days would have been too much for this pure vanity article. Fourteen years is just absurd. Ravenswing 16:15, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Keep in spite of the tone. I used this edit summary when I removed the PROD tag: "Remove PROD tag. This article is egregiously self-promotional however Brotman may possible meet the requirements of WP:NLIST by holding endowed chairs. Suggest taking to WP:AfD". If I could bold a word in my edit summary, it would have been "egregious".

In my edit summary, I meant WP:NPROF) (not WP:NLIST), specifically criterion 5:

• "The person has held a named chair appointment or "Distinguished Professor" appointment at a major institution of higher education and research…"

Brotman has held these professorships:

• "Fulbright-Nokia Distinguished Chair in Information and Communications Technologies in the Faculty of Social Sciences, Department of Social Research /Media and Communication Studies, at the University of Helsinki"
• "Alvin and Sally Beaman Professor of Journalism and Media Law, Enterprise, and Leadership at the University of Tennessee, Knoxville"
• "From 2016-2022, he served as the inaugural Howard Distinguished Endowed Professor of Media Management and Law."

--A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 17:00, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Investigate the veracity of some of this. I've stricken my "keep" for now. I started pruning some of the biography and noted much of it relied on Brotman himself. I also noted he appeared to be in many places at once, meaning perhaps a visiting appointment or fellowship was either just a driveby lecture or maybe some of this stuff is made up.

My editing was confined to some quick pruning; I did not dive into the references. Also, there's lots more pruning to do. --A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 17:23, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

For instance, actually looking at that "Fulbright-Nokia Distinguished Chair" reveals that it isn't an appointment at all in the sense NPROF means. It's a short term visiting scholar post (3-9 months) that just has a grandiose title attached to it. Especially with the vast increase in title inflation -- it's far easier to call someone a "Distinguished Endowed Professor" than to raise their pay -- we might want to revisit NPROF's criteria. Ravenswing 19:41, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

L'A Capone

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Fails WP:NMUSIC with no chart or notable label activity backed by bad sourcing. Another drill rapper article in which the subject is hailed as some major figure of the genre with no evidence backing it up, while the only notable citations are mundane coverage of his criminal activity. sixtynine ^{• whaddya want? •} 19:04, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Jackson Bentley

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Fails WP:N. I could barely find any outside, reliable sources about the character. The article itself cites no sources JooneBug37 (talk) 02:51, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• Keep It's widely considered one of the greatest films of all time. I wouldn't be surprised if every character in it has enough scholarly analysis to have a standalone article. Just from a quick search: [2] (search for Bentley), [3], [4]. There's also sourced content in Lawrence of Arabia (film) about the other two actors associated with the role that could be included. Jfire (talk) 05:32, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Merge/rename to Fictional characters in Lawrence of Arabia per Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Harry_Brighton. The sources here are borderline for WP:SIGCOV. But there is enough reliable coverage to write something about how the filmmakers adapted real life people into composite characters. It's a rare niche where there is no real life person to merge these characters to, but there are multiple real life people who inspired these characters, and that is reliable information we should WP:PRESERVE. A list of characters is normal for fiction like this. Shooterwalker (talk) 19:16, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Keep - The article does not need work but as Jfire said above there are several sources indicating notability. Otherwise, I would support renaming the page to Fictional characters in Lawrence of Arabia as above. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 13:35, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Doug Kovacs

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Not a G4, but factors don't appear to have appreciably changed since Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Doug Kovacs w/r/t his career.

While reviews of games on which he 's worked have been added, I don't see that it establishes notability for Kovacs nor that the award meets WP:BIO. Bringing it here for further discussion. Star Mississippi 15:43, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• Keep if sources are found to meet the GNG, otherwise move back to Draft so that I can work on improving it as per the previous AFD. I did submit it to AFC, probably a bit prematurely, based on some sources that I did add since the last one, but I am happy to continue working on the draft to see what else I can add. BOZ (talk) 16:40, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  I would have no issue with a return to draft space if the discussion closes in that direction or even delete. I just don't think it was ready yet to come back. @Cyberwolf thought otherwise, but no worries we can resolve it here. Star Mississippi 18:36, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  I see him having his own award as notable but it may not be •Cyberwolf•talk? 19:17, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  That's fair, and I appreciate the vote of confidence. I nominated it for AFC to see if a reviewer felt that I had added enough, but if it's not ready then I'm fine with continuing to work on it. BOZ (talk) 19:40, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  Cyberwolf, I don't want to come down harshly on you, and I hope no one else does either, but I would suggest that you might benefit from working with experienced AFC reviewers so you can get more experienced with the process too. :) BOZ (talk) 19:43, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• Keep I support a move back to draft space. Guinness323 (talk) 17:16, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

• KEEP Pardon a totally new contributor to the conversation here in terms of formatting, etc. In terms of general notability for artists https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:ARTIST&redirect=no

3) The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews, or of an independent and notable work (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series);

If edits are being considered in terms of notability the following may be useful for referencing?

Doug's work is considered to be the visual art "face" of the table-top role playing game Dungeon Crawl Classics https://goodman-games.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/MM19_July2014_GoodmanGames1.pdf and has consistently represented the brand since it's inception in 2012 with cover and internal illustrations. A secondary source directly from Goodman Games artist spotlight https://goodman-games.com/blog/2017/10/09/the-artists-of-goodman-games/

He has also worked extensively with Wizards of the Coast on Dungeons and Dragons (https://www.dmsguild.com/browse.php?artist=Doug%20Kovacs) - this is a simple list of books he has contributed to, I am not certain how to best reference a searched list vs each book individually? Ohheytinyguy (talk) 19:48, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

• Delete - I don't think that the oeuvre described above actually meets WP:NARTIST #3 absent independent coverage specifically analyzing Kovacs' work; meanwhile, the interview with Goodman Games is a scraping-the-barrel kind of source notability-wise and does not bode well for the existence of further coverage. I'm not opposed to work continuing in draft space, but no one has indicated why we should expect additional coverage to materialize. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 20:01, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Kip Tyler

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I was unable to find any authoritative sources proving the notability of this artist, especially with great coverage. I've looked through multiple newspapers and used the Wikipedia Library and still found nothing. Most of the writing on the page is unsourced as well, using words like "hits" for songs that I couldn't find coverage for either. Jaguarnik (talk) 16:04, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I am also nominating the following related page, because it is simply the group founded by Tyler, with also no claims to notability that I could find:

Kip Tyler and the Flips (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Zacharias Sexual Abuse Center

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Could not find indepth coverage either in google news or books. Mainly 1 line mentions, like getting support from the Chicago Bears. Fails WP:ORG. LibStar (talk) 05:32, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• Comment: I found this article by Chicago Tribune/Lake County News Sun which is behind a paywall, but appears to be reliable, independent, secondary, and with significant coverage of the subject. Left guide (talk) 09:20, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  As per WP:AUD we would need wider coverage than local news sources. LibStar (talk) 22:40, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Jerald D. Slack

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I couldn't establish that he meets WP:BIO or WP:GNG. This has been in CAT:NN for 14 years; hopefully we can now resolve it. Boleyn (talk) 17:24, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• Comment: adding sources from Newspapers.com, feels likely this will pass WP:GNG with a bit more work. -- Cerebral726 (talk) 21:36, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Stanley Modrzyk

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I couldn't establish that he meets WP:BIO or WP:GNG. This has been in CAT:NN for 14 years; hopefully we can now resolve it. Boleyn (talk) 18:24, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• Looking through The Wild Hunt, the main Pagan news site, there seem to be a couple of mentions that Modrzyk passed away but little beyond that to really sustain notability for Wikipedia's purposes. Midnightblueowl (talk) 12:41, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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• Delete. Nothing in EBSCOhost. ProQuest has a few news articles in which he is briefly quoted, e.g. ProQuest 309969259, ProQuest 420258868. Similar articles in newspapers.com. I don't see any significant coverage. No reviews of his books. Fails WP:BIO and WP:GNG. Jfire (talk) 03:30, 25 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Kevin Manno

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Fails WP:BIO. Most of the existing references are about his relationship/marriage with Ali Fedotowsky, falling afoul of WP:NOTINHERITED. The rest are announcements about his job changes or not independent, and I can't find anything better. Clarityfiend (talk) 17:13, 14 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Comment. I didn't realize I had nominated this guy last year, to minimal participation. Still, once more unto the breach. Clarityfiend (talk) 17:29, 14 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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