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Sayer Ji

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I'm not seeing it. This is a WP:COATRACK -- we've got the cost of a subscription to his website in the article? We've got details on his use of affiliate links?

None of the sources are about him in a significant way. We've got a lot of information coming from unreliable sources: a bio of the guy on a talent booking website, not one but two PDFs hosted on "filesusr.com" written by a political advocacy group... note that I literally can't even link these URLs in the AfD despite being an admin because they are on the global spam blacklist...

his own websites, etc. The closest thing we get to sigificant, neutral third-party coverage is this blog post (which is for some reason in the ref list twice, as #4 and also #13). This Wired article mentions him once, in a single paragraph, in the sentence: Prominent pandemic deniers include a number of keen yoga practitioners, such as alternative health proponent Sayer Ji, who runs the website greenmedinfo.com, and his wife Kelly Brogan, who describes herself as a ‘holistic psychiatrist.’ This The Hill article also mentions him once, in a list with twelve other people. That's it. Here is a single fact check page about something that was on his website. This isn't significant coverage and the guy is not notable. jp×g🗯️ 22:55, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Brumfiel, Geoff (12 May 2021). "NPR". For Some Anti-Vaccine Advocates, Misinformation Is Part Of A Business. Archived from the original on 19 May 2021. Retrieved 19 May 2021.
Jarry, Jonathan (11 July 2020). "Popular Health Guru Sayer Ji Curates the Scientific Literature with His Bachelor's Degree in Philosophy". Office for Science and Society. Archived from the original on 4 February 2021. Retrieved 19 May 2021. Djflem (talk) 15:27, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Prash Ladva

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(Contested PROD.)
The short version: There is no evidence that Prash Ladva satisfies Wikipedia's notability guidelines, either in the references cited in the article or in anything else I could find anywhere on searching.
A longer version, for anyone wishing to read an account of all the cited references: There are apparently 17 references in the article at present, but two of those are identical pages on two websites. Not a single one of them is substantial coverage in an independent source, and most of them fail both of those criteria. The references are as follows. Currently a dead link, but it is a URL on Prash Ladva's own web site, so it would not have been an independent source anyway: [4]. Text posted by Prash Ladva himself on LinkedIn: [5]. Web pages which don't mention Prash Ladva, and which even if they did are on the websites of organisations to which he is connected: [6], [7], [8], [9]. A listing on a government company listing site of a company owned by Prash Ladva; the listing doesn't mention Prash Ladva himself: [10]. Another government listing site, this time for a school. It includes Prash Ladva in a list of governors of the school; the only information about him is his name, the start and end dates of his term as a governor, and "Appointed by GB/board" as an explanation of how he came to be appointed to the post: [11]. A page telling us that Prash Ladva's brother is proud of him: [12]. Apparently two references on two websites, but they turn out to be identical; both of them say "SPONSORED" at the top and "In association with LinkMedics International LTD" further down the page. LinkMedics International is a business belonging to Prash Ladva; in other words the "references" are advertisements, and indeed one of the websites carrying it, on another web page, mentions its price for inclusion in its "news" coverage: [13], [14]. Announcements on the web sites of organisations or businesses offering "awards", which include Prash Ladva as a recipient. It's not clear to me how significant the awards are, but in any case they are not substantial coverage of Prash Ladva, and being on the websites of the awarding organisations they aren't independent sources either: [15], [16]. Further pages on the web sites of organisations to which he has a personal connection, including his own business and organisations he works for or has worked for: [17], [18], [19], [20]. JBW (talk) 22:25, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

List of hospitals in Surat

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Per WP:NOTDIRECTORY. The grouped hospitals must be notable together for some other reason than simply existing in Surat. A previous PROD was contested. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:49, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Jilly Juice

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This bizarre WP:ONEEVENT story was a media WP:SENSATION a few years back and, with the benefit of hindsight, I think it is clear that this is all it was. Sure, it was picked up by a buncha newspapers who laughed and tut-tutted about the ridiculousness and encouraged shock over the horrific health outcomes of it all, but, in sum, this is a story about a woman with a kinda of personality disorder who drummed up a small following on the internet and ran afoul of the FTC. Wikipedia, ultimately, is an encyclopedia. This is not encyclopedic and there is no decent way to discuss this and other similar snake oil flashes in the pan.

The article is pretty poor because it does not do much more than scoff. And rightly so. The subject is asinine on the face. This is why I think Wikipedia ought to exclude it as a subject. It's not a particularly popular fad, it seems to have no staying power, and I think those who were involved in keeping the article up were hoodwinked by tabloid journalism and train-wreck fascination. jps (talk) 23:32, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

References

  1. ^ Lucchesi, Emilie Le Beau (February 1, 2020). "Cure or Con? Health products touted on social media are slipping by regulators". ABA Journal. Retrieved August 11, 2022.
  2. ^ Subbaraman, Nidhi (March 17, 2018). "Here's How A "Poop Cult" With 58,000 Followers Set Off A Facebook War". Buzzfeed News. Retrieved November 12, 2019.
  3. ^ Schwarcz, Joseph (June 1, 2018). "The Right Chemistry: Beware of self-proclaimed health experts". Montreal Gazette. Retrieved January 5, 2020.
  4. ^ Rahhal, Natalie (October 7, 2018). "'Poop cult' leader 'can't be held accountable' for followers death". The New Zealand Herald. Retrieved January 5, 2020.
Not so much "I don't like it". More "how is this worthy of an article"? There are lots of things I don't like that are obviously worthy of articles. This one strikes me as entirely ginned up because of the tabloid journalism and social media hyping. I think that makes it a subject that fails WP:ENC prima facie. YMMV, of course. This is, after all, the encyclopedia of Pokemon as well. :/ jps (talk) 14:08, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Keep per User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång rationale, ongoing coverage proves staying power of the phenomenon. WilsonP NYC (talk) 21:28, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Probiotic Probio DR10

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Though this product is covered in scientific papers, this does not indicate its notability. In line with the guidelines at WP:PRODUCTS an article about a product should have significant coverage in secondary sources to indicate notability. A search for specifically "Probiotic Probio DR10" or for the shorter phrase "Probio DR10" returns no results from either google books or google scholar. DR10 is covered, as cited, in research papers, but this coverage is not significant. Therefore I propose that the article be turned into a redirect either to the company that created the product Fonterra or to the more general article probiotic. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 04:09, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Support redirect to manufacturer article. Article feels fishy, reads like a promotional leaflet. AfD tak removed this morning without comment. Take a look at the edit history. --Ouro (blah blah) 06:14, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I noticed that as well. It is also interesting that the IP address that attempted the deletion locates to Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia and the main editor of the page has "Malaysian" in their user name. In no way proof, but it is an interesting coincidence. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 19:37, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Yeess, interesting... --Ouro (blah blah) 20:03, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    And I've also had to warn the editor about removing the AfD tag as well. Not showing a good understanding of Wikipedia policies and procedures. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 22:27, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • That was my instinct as well but I have done several searches looking for copyvios and came up empty. --Ouro (blah blah) 14:33, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Oxford Health Alliance

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Fails WP:NORG. One source is to the company's (now defunct) website; the World Health Organisation citation doesn't mention the company; the third reference is one I added when seeing whether the charity is still active - seems they had zero employees and an income of £32 and expenditure of £267 in the year to May 2022, and it looks like they stopped operating in 2019. A before search found nothing other than routine coverage. The article itself reads as a promo piece. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 14:26, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sandesh Lamsal

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This article was created as obvious self-promotion, but has since been cleaned from the most outrageous phrasing by others. However, I still can't see, or find, any reliable sourcing supporting notability. The references look like press releases at best. Bishonen | tålk 13:03, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Do they? I recommend you to read WP:Reliable sources. Note too that what the references say about the subject is also important. There's no depth, it's all breathless praise, and the statements in those outlets are all very similar - they all sound like they're based on press releases or interviews with the subject. Such things are not independent of the subject. Bishonen | tålk 14:42, 18 January 2024 (UTC).Reply[reply]
    Sources from Online Khabar are paid spam. I want to note that the subject of this article works there. So not at all contributing towards notability. Maliner (talk) 15:52, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    (There was a problem with your link, which I have now fixed, Maliner.) Yes, his work there is indeed mentioned in our article: "From 2021, he has been writing medical articles in the national Online portal Online Khabar to provide medical knowledge in an understandable language for the local public.. Online Khabar is hardly an independent secondary source in relation to Lamsal. Bishonen | tålk 15:59, 18 January 2024 (UTC).Reply[reply]
    Thanks Bish. Please see
    Ref 3
    Ref 15
    Both sources do not mention the author's name. It's reasonable to assume the subject authored both sources as part of a self-promotion scheme. Maliner (talk) 16:19, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Hello Bishonen, Thank you for your comment. I agree with some of your points. But let me clear my point once again so that this will be the final statement from my side as a Editor from Nepal who contributes the articles here in Wikipedia related to Medicine(Hospitals, Doctors, etc).
    1. While doing deep investigations on the issue you raised, I found that the articles about the subject were written in Nepali Version first (on January 2021) whereas the subject seems to have started contributing Medical articles in the English version of Online Khabar only after (July 2022), which declines the argument that there might be the COI on those articles.
    2. The Online Khabar clearly mentions authors as their employee on the bio of the Writer profile of authors, but on the case of this subject there is nothing like this mentioned which again declines the argument that the subject works there.
    In my opinion, it is fine to write medical articles by any professional individual on any online websites with the motive to create awareness related to health irrespective of what the news is published about the subject in another version of that website years ago.
    3. In Nepal when the articles are written by the Media itself they don't mention the name of author. Rather I feel the articles with the particular author name might give the hint of COI of the author with the subject. I support that the articles about living people should be independent and written either by the Website itself or the Respective desk (News Desk, Sport Desk, or Entertainment Desk of the Newspaper).
    4. These references can't be a part of press release because I found that the articles are written about the subject for over a long period of time. Press releases are published in a certain date and there is no mentions about it after it.
    5. Lastly, I think that the articles clearly mentions the subject on the heading and these articles revolve around the subject till the last, digging deep about the subject. The articles can be on praise or negative opinion depending upon the works of the subject and his / her contribution to the society.
    6. I am just a medical enthusiastic focused to create medical articles, articles about hospitals of Nepal and Notable doctors. I merely edited the article Sandesh Lamsal 2 or 3 times, that also on the basis of the argument on the talk page. Please don't drag me everywhere on this topic. I declare no COI on this subject neither want to create my Wikipedia journey defending this subject till the end. Happy Editing! Cheers WikiEditorNepali (talk) 10:10, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Please don't drag me everywhere on this topic. Who dragged you here? Usedtobecool ☎️ 10:37, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Discussions among the editors before the Nomination For Deletion Here and Here, and their Vote for the Deletion here, dragged me. WikiEditorNepali (talk) 10:46, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ronald Rieder

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I couldn't establish that he meets WP:BIO or WP:GNG. This has been in CAT:NN for 14 years; hopefully we can now resolve it. Boleyn (talk) 18:31, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Robert A. Phillips

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Worthy and successful career, but I couldn't establish that he meets WP:BIO or WP:GNG. This has been in CAT:NN for 14 years; hopefully we can now resolve it. Boleyn (talk) 18:04, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Clinomorphism

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WP:BEFORE shows no evidence of significant coverage in medically-suitable reliable sources. In any case, Wikipedia is not a dictionary. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:22, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Medinfar

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No references used here, I could only find press releases online. TLA (talk) 02:58, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Pia Mellody

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WP:BLP. Fails WP:SIGCOV. Potentially passes WP:NAUTHOR but can't find reviews. Fails WP:BIO. scope_creepTalk 10:34, 12 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Biotica Technology Ltd.

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All sources in article are either routine coverage (most of them) or not secondary (e.g. [22]). DDG and DDG news search is also only revealing routine coverage (e.g. [23] [24]). WP:NORG requires that the organisation have at least two independent, secondary sources with significant coverage. Darcyisverycute (talk) 17:23, 2 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thanks - will hunt for some more secondary sources and add them in. This is one of my first attempts at a full new page, so pretty new at this. Learning all the time :-) Pdxmag (talk) 12:22, 3 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Added a couple of attempts at the secondary sources you suggest discussing Biotica technology as a company and its activities/relevance - a book and a journal Pdxmag (talk) 12:54, 3 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Added another - hope this helps! :-) Pdxmag (talk) 13:07, 3 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for taking this well and looking for more sources :) Regarding the sources you've added, I would appreciate other editors to weigh in, as the Cell Press article is paywalled for me, I can only view a small snippet of the IOS Press book's relevant section, and the Elsevier publication's relevant discussion may not meet significant coverage. Darcyisverycute (talk) 13:31, 3 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Arthur Colborne Lankester

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Nothing in this article can be verified. The only source I can find in relation to the existence of this individual is this journal article and a few forum and self published articles related to this individual published after 2022 (which I assume were taken from the journal article). Sohom (talk) 16:00, 1 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Source eval:
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Meets SIGCOV 1. Ebrahimi, Sara Honarmand (2022). "Medical Missionaries and the Invention of the "Serai Hospital" in North-western British India". European Journal for the History of Medicine and Health. 79: 67–93. doi:10.1163/26667711-bja10013.
Fails WP:IS 2. ^ Jump up to:a b "Beginnings in India, by Eugene Stock (1917)". anglicanhistory.org. Retrieved 2023-12-09.
Fails WP:IS 3. ^ Jump up to:a b c Oxenham, John (1918). Vernon Harold Starr 1882-1918 and after. London: Church Missionary Society. p. Chpt 2. Retrieved 8 January 2024.
Meets SIGCOV (See below) [26] 4. ^ Jump up to:a b c Lankester, Arthur (1920). Tuberculosis in India its prevalence, causation and treatment (Accessed via googlebooks ed.). London: Butterworth and Co. p. 317. Retrieved 8 January 2024.
Fails WP:IS 5. ^ Jump up to:a b Church Missionary Society (1894). "Register of Missionaries (1804-1894)". Church Missionary Society Periodicals.
Fails WP:IS 6. ^ Lankester, Arthur Colborne (1895). "Annual Medical Mission Breakfast". British Medical Association: 77–81 – via Church Missionary Society Periodicals.
Brief mention, (better link [27]) 7. ^ "From Tomb to Hospital: Pakistan Army's Conservation of Peshawar's Heritage Monument". Pakistan Defence. 2023-05-20. Retrieved 2023-12-09.
Fails WP:IS 8. ^ Lankester, Arthur (1912). "The Needs of the N. W. Frontier". Mercy and Truth 16. 16: 297.
Fails WP:IS 9. ^ Jump up to:a b "The Annual Meeting". Preaching and Healing: The Report of the CMS Medical Mission Auxiliary for 1905-1906: 24. 1906.
Fails WP:IS 10. ^ "Keswick Convention Medical Mission Meeting". Mercy and Truth. 106: 296. 1905.
Fails SIGCOV 11. ^ "Henry Martyn-Clark 1857 - 1916". Henry Martyn-Clark 1857 - 1916. Retrieved 2023-12-09.
 // Timothy :: talk  08:24, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@TimothyBlue The 3rd source you mention is written by the subject of this article, "Arther Lankester". That (imo) should be in the "Fails WP:IS" category. Sohom (talk) 08:57, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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A comment by a grandson
At the age of 82, I am Arthur Lankester's eldest surviving grandchild. I remember him well. I have a type-written copy of his autobiography. I turned that into a paper back book, a copy of which which is now held in the Church Mission Society Crowther library in Oxford.
I realise that I suffer from having a conflict of interest, as does the autobiography. However, it seems a pity if the best available source has to be largely ignored. My initial reaction on reading the article's text and the reasons for deletion was that it seemed a pity to throw away this information but that, unless the text of the article can be made more accurate, it would be best to delete the article.
I need to learn much more about the Wikipedia editing process but it appears to me that the main reasons proposed for deletion are that he was not sufficiently notable, the lack of independent sources, and that the article is an orphan.
Notability I am obviously biased here but he founded the Mission Hospital in Peshawar and was very much involved in the founding of the Osmania hospital in Hyderabad. He was awarded the Kaiser-i-Hind medal (Second class in silver) in 1908. (See the Indian Medical Gazette, August 1908 Page 317.) In his position of Director of Medical and Sanitary Services for Hyderabad, he was effectively in charge of the health services of a small country. His book "Tuberculosis in India" is still an important text and the Wikipedia Article could (if corrected provide useful background material to this subject.) (By the way, his job in Hyderabad was not a Government of India post as is stated in the article; he was recruited by the Nizam and his staff.) (See the Englishman's Overland Mail for 5 February 1920, the Times Obituary of 21 November 1963.)
Independent Sources Google provides plenty of sources about his work in Peshawar; there is even a picture of a memorial to him in the Burg Said Khan, which later became the hospital chapel. Of particular note are articles by Dr Ali Jan, a prominent local historian in Peshawar. I will produce a list. There is rather less written about his work in Hyderabad but the best article is in the Englishman's Overland Mail of 5 Feb 1920.
I do not fully understand the problem of the article being "an orphan". Once a Wikipedia page had been produced there are many web pages that could be linked to it.
I apologise for my poor understanding of how Wikipedia works and will return when I have more references. Jim462 (talk) 18:21, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Jim462 I think if you can find links/clippings/evidence to some of the articles by Dr Ali Jan and the obituary, we could put this over notability. Based on https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5183017/?page=1 the Indian Medical Gazette source counts as a mention. Searching Dr. A. C. Lankester shows us some sources, however, I'm unsure if they are related to your grandfather? For example, I found this article in the The Lancet on p191-121 is this about the subject or somebody else ? Sohom (talk) 18:45, 20 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
https://www.google.co.in/books/edition/The_East_and_the_West/ejEMAAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Dr.+A.+C.+Lankester&pg=PA222&printsec=frontcover is also another source I found which seems to be a mention of the subject. Sohom (talk) 08:06, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
https://www.google.co.in/books/edition/Proceedings_of_the_Church_Missionary_Soc/860_AQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Dr.+%22A.+C.+Lankester%22&pg=PA118&printsec=frontcover is another one as well. Sohom (talk) 08:08, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hmm, https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctv27qzr8k provides some context about him and his work on Tuberculosis in India (I think). Sohom (talk) 08:20, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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