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On this WikiProject Stub sorting subpage, you can propose new stub types (please read the procedures beforehand!), as well as the reorganization and subdivision of existing stub types. You can also discuss anything else related to stubs on the talk page.

Proposing new stub types – procedure

Important: If you wish to propose the creation of a stub ARTICLE you've come to the wrong place. If you don't have a username yourself, please go to WP:AFC for proposing a new article. If you already have a username, you can create the article yourself. If you don't know how, add ((Helpme)) to your user talk page to request help from other editors. This page only deals with stub TEMPLATES and CATEGORIES; we cannot help you with creating articles.

Proposing new stub types
If you wish to propose a new stub category and template, please follow these procedures:
  1. Check the List of stub types or under Category:Stub categories to make sure that your proposed new stub does not already exist.
  2. List it at the top of the current month's section, under a header, like the ones shown (if any). Sign it with a datestamp (~~~~).
    • Please bear in mind that a stub category isn't about the importance or notability of the topic!
  3. Find a good number[1] of stub articles, as many as you can, that will fit that template. You may use this tool to scan through categories; tagged stubs are always in Category:All stub articles and transclude ((asbox)). Each of these articles can be:
    • currently marked with ((stub));
    • currently marked with another type of stub tag (in which case you should justify why your tag is better for the article than the current one);
    • a stub whose categorisation is highly ambiguous or questionable;
    • not marked as a stub.
  4. If you use any category scan (from the tool mentioned above or from any other), please link to it so that other users can confirm that the results are still accurate.
  5. Others may do the same, if they so desire.
  6. 5 days after listing it here, if there is general approval or no objection, go ahead and create the new category and/or template following the format on Wikipedia:Stub. List the new stub type on the stub types list in an appropriate section. If consensus is not clear, or discussion is still ongoing, the proposal will remain open until consensus can be reached.
  7. If you wish to propose a stub type which does not currently have 60 articles that could use it, you may propose an upmerged template in a similar way. An upmerged template would feed into currently existing stub categories until such time that there are enough stubs for a separate stub category. At that point a category for it may be separately proposed. Some times, it may be difficult to be sure how many stubs would get a tag - in which case you can also start with an upmerged stub tag until you're sure there are enough.

DO NOT place a proposal here for any stub type which has already been created and is being discussed at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion. The proposal page is only for stub types that have not yet been created, and it is better to keep any discussion of such stub types in one place rather than splitting it between different pages. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion is the correct page for proposals to delete a stub type.

^ . Good number means about 60 articles or more, or 30 or more if it is the primary stub type of a WikiProject, though this figure may vary from case to case.

"Speedy creation"

A stub type may be proposed for "speedy creation" if it meets one of the following criteria:

List speedy creation proposals in the same proposal listings as normal stub proposals below.

Proposals, December 2021

Please check how many articles qualify for a stub type before proposing it.

NEW PROPOSALS

Sri Lankan politician stubs

Category:Sri Lankan politician stubs is sitting at a 516 pages at the moment.

There are 9 provinces of Sri Lanka. Each MP represents an electoral district which corresponds exactly with the sub-districts of Sri Lanka. This makes for easy sorting even with historical stubs; thus, this would just be standard sorting by region: this would follow the set-up of Category:Sri Lanka geography stubs.

These would be created as:

  1. ((CentralLK-politician-stub)) // Category:Central Province, Sri Lanka politician stubs
  2. ((EasternLK-politician-stub)) // Category:Eastern Province, Sri Lanka politician stubs
  3. ((NorthCentralLK-politician-stub)) // Category:North Central Province, Sri Lanka politician stubs
  4. ((NorthWesternLK-politician-stub)) // Category:North Western Province, Sri Lanka politician stubs
  5. ((NorthernLK-politician-stub)) // Category:Northern Province, Sri Lanka politician stubs
  6. ((SabaragamuwaLK-politician-stub)) // Category:Sabaragamuwa Province politician stubs
  7. ((SouthernLK-politician-stub)) // Category:Southern Province, Sri Lanka politician stubs
  8. ((UvaLK-politician-stub)) // Category:Uva Province politician stubs
  9. ((WesternLK-politician-stub)) // Category:Western Province, Sri Lanka politician stubs

It may also be beneficial to sort by party, but I'll determine this after initial sorting is complete.

Curbon7 (talk) 07:06, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

Nepal politician stubs

Category:Nepalese politician stubs is sitting at a casual 513 pages at the moment.

There are 7 provinces of Nepal as created in 2015. Even though these were created recently, they are organized by the grouping of the pre-existing sub-districts of Nepal. This makes for easy sorting even with historical stubs; thus, this would just be standard sorting by region: this would follow the set-up of Category:Nepal geography stubs.

These would be created as:

  1. ((Bagmati-politician-stub)) // Category:Bagmati Province politician stubs
  2. ((Gandaki-politician-stub)) // Category:Gandaki Province politician stubs
  3. ((Karnali-politician-stub)) // Category:Karnali Province politician stubs
  4. ((Lumbini-politician-stub)) // Category:Lumbini Province politician stubs
  5. ((Province1NP-politician-stub)) // Category:Province No. 1 politician stubs
  6. ((Province2NP-politician-stub)) // Category:Province No. 2 politician stubs
  7. ((Sudurpashchim-politician-stub)) // Category:Sudurpashchim Province politician stubs

n.b. Province No. 1 and Province No. 2 will be renamed by the government eventually.


By region is pretty much the only way to sort Nepali politicians, as by party seems extremely difficult/impossible. This is because their political system has consisted of like 10-20 different major communist parties that are constantly merging and collapsing like every 2 seconds; this makes it a nigh impossible to figure out a sorting system that will last.

Curbon7 (talk) 10:58, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Taiwanese politician stubs

Category:Taiwanese politician stubs is huge, sitting at 485 articles. Propose splitting via the two major parties (i.e. ((Taiwan-KMT-politician-stub)) for Kuomintang and ((Taiwan-DPP-politician-stub)) for Democratic Progressive Party). Splitting via geography wouldn't work well since Taiwan is unitary, so by party seems better. Would sort first and make the categories after they reach 60 each. Curbon7 (talk) 23:15, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Texas election stubs

((Texas-election-stub)) has 74 instances. Would be created as Category:Texas election stubs. Curbon7 (talk) 04:15, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

British Army stub

If there's consensus for the above template, can somebody approve this draft? Thanks. --I dream of horses (Contribs) (Talk) 03:05, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

The parent category, Category:United Kingdom military stubs, is very poorly sorted and needs significant work; that said, I would support as an upmerge until it reaches the 60 article threshold (with the category likely being Category:British Army stubs once it crosses the threshold). Curbon7 (talk) 03:28, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
"Significant work" - really??? Care to explain your high provocative statement? 78.32.143.113 (talk) 04:33, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
 Comment: As the creator of this draft stub, it is simply the case of creating a 'parity' of other arms British Armed Forces - the Royal Air Force has a 'root' stub, as does the Royal Navy. So why does the British Army not have a 'root' stub template? I would strongly suggest that many British Army-specific stub articles have been incorrectly classified with the WRONG stub template. My guess is that there would very easily be more that 60 articles which could be more accurately stubbed with ((British Army stub)). Kind regards. 78.32.143.113 (talk) 04:42, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
If many British Army-related stub articles have been incorrectly classified, perhaps there is a question of whether they should be re-classified under an existing stub type (for example, Category:United Kingdom military unit and formation stubs, and/or Category:British Army personnel stubs). (I believe that is the work to which Curbon7 refers.) If there are fewer than 60 articles for which a new ((British-Army-stub)) would be the best choice, we generally upmerge the template until more than 60 articles have been tagged with it, at which point it should have its own category. Her Pegship (?) 04:35, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Proposals, November 2021

Scotland railway station stubs

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Category:Scotland railway station stubs has 843 members, and only one subcategory (Category:Glasgow railway station stubs). Glasgow is one of the 32 council areas of Scotland; unlike England (which is divided into nine regions, each having its own stub category), Scotland has no level intermediate between the country and the council area. It would be impractical to subdivide Scotland railway station stubs 32 ways, and so I propose that further subcategories be created for just those council areas that have sufficient stations. For example, Category:Aberdeenshire railway station stubs would be valid because PetScan shows that there are 73 pages in Category:Railway stations in Aberdeenshire (or its subcats) that are stub articles; but Category:Falkirk (council area) railway station stubs would not because PetScan shows that there are just 14 pages in Category:Railway stations in Falkirk (council area) (or its subcats) that are stub articles. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:28, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

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Automobile engines

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Per scan, Category:Automotive part stubs has exactly 60 article overlap with Category:Automobile engines. However, I am unsure on what the naming should be. The two options for the category are (1) Automotive engine stubs, per the stub cat, or (2) Automobile engine stubs, per the main cat. However, for the template, ((Engine-aircraft-stub)) is formatted like that, which makes this even more of a headache... Should it be (1) Engine-automobile-stub, (2) Engine-automotive-stub, (3) Automobile-engine-stub, or (4) Automotive-engine-stub? If either of the latter two are preferred, should the aircraft one be adjusted? Curbon7 (talk) 08:30, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

[2] Pertinent. Curbon7 (talk) 08:32, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
Yeah this is too much of a headache for me, withdrawing. Curbon7 (talk) 23:55, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
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Protosicence-stub

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Protoscence is a category that can be expanded in Wikipedia, it could be of help creating protoscience stubs instead of deleting all new articles about protoscience just because they are "too small".--Alpha Lion (talk) 20:23, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

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Hume-geo-stub

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It is the only missing regional area of Victoria Australia (BarwonSouthWest, GrampiansAU, Mallee, Gippsland)--ThylacineHunter (talk) 06:13, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Partial support per standard, but as an upmerged template to see if it reaches the 60 page standard. Curbon7 (talk) 07:47, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
I can already fill it with 20 pages (out of 35), that are currently tagged as stubs, of towns from just 2 of the 12 government areas in the Hume region. Out of the remaining 15, most are still only at a stub stage (only 3 sentences), but, for some reason, are not tagged as such. --ThylacineHunter (talk) 09:08, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
This final subset will also allow the 731 stubs in Category:Victoria (Australia) geography stubs to be properly divided into their relevant sub-areas of: BarwonSouthWest, GrampiansAU, Mallee, Gippsland, Melbourne, and Hume. -- ThylacineHunter (talk) 09:51, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
Here is a list (Category:Hume-geo-stub) of 183 pages that should be tagged as ((Hume-geo-stub)) instead of the parent tag of ((VictoriaAU-geo-stub)). Note: list is still growing. --ThylacineHunter (talk) 01:32, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
Category:Hume-geo-stub is both misnamed and misused. Misused because articles are placed in it using the markup [[Category:Hume-geo-stub]] - we never do this for stub categories. Misnamed because stub categories are spaced, not hyphenated; and are not normally abbreviated either. See for example
Victoria (Australia) geography stubs
Barwon South West geography stubs
Gippsland geography stubs
Grampians (region) geography stubs
Hume (region) geography stubs
Mallee geography stubs
Melbourne geography stubs
Victoria (Australia) river stubs
This should be Category:Hume geography stubs. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:37, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
I think they created that as a temporary category for the purposes of this discussion. Curbon7 (talk) 21:15, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
That is correct. -- ThylacineHunter (talk) 22:31, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
I will apply the correct tag of ((Hume-geo-stub)) and remove ((VictoriaAU-geo-stub)) and [[Category:Hume-geo-stub]] when the Hume-geo-stub is created. I only grouped them so I could easily find the 183 that need to be changed amongst the 783 in ((VictoriaAU-geo-stub)) ThylacineHunter (talk) 22:35, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
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LatAm-comics-creator-stub

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I counted 59 Brazilian and 9 Argentine comic book creators in categories Category:Comics creator stubs, Category:Comics artist stubs and Category:Comics writer stubs (there's many Argentines comics creators in "writer stubs", but I didn't count them). I would still have to check the other 11 countries in South America, but I think that is a quantity that justifies the template. Also, I'm creating new articles about Brazilian artists, so this number will increase soon. Lucio Luiz (talk) 14:47, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

I made a small modification in the proposal and changed it for all of Latin America, since there is already stubs for United States and Canada. Thus, the three Americas would be covered (and there are many Mexican artists in stub). Lucio Luiz (talk) 15:11, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

After 7 days without objection, I created the ((LatAm-comics-creator-stub)). Lucio Luiz (talk) 16:41, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

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Nigeria-women-bio-stub

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((Nigeria-women-bio-stub)) as a subset of ((Nigeria-bio-stub)). To help with filtering topics for an upcoming destubathon. Thanks.
Princess of Ara 21:12, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

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French table tennis biography stubs

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((France-tabletennis-bio-stub)) has 64 usages as a template in Category:French sportspeople stubs. An upmerged catergory would help reduce this backlog. Thanks! --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:10, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

Support per sufficient uses. Curbon7 (talk) 07:44, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
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Guinea politican stubs

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((Guinea-politician-stub)) has 70 usages as a template in Category:West African politician stubs. If this became a upmerged category, it'd help reduce the backlog in this category a lot. Thanks! --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:03, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

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Tingidae stubs

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((Tingidae-stub)) as a subcat of Category:Cimicomorpha stubs: over a 100 member candidates. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 20:17, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

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Reduviidae stubs

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((Reduviidae-stub)) as a subcat of Category:Cimicomorpha stubs: over a 150 member candidates. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 20:20, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

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Proposals, October 2021

Ukrainian football midfielder, 2000s births stubs

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((Ukraine-footy-midfielder-2000s-stub)) currently has 78 uses as a template in Category:Ukrainian football midfielder stubs. If this was upmerged into a subcategory, it'd help eliminate the backlog in this category. Thanks! --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:21, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

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Telugu Desam Party politician stubs

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Proposals: (1) Category:Telugu Desam Party politician stubs, ((TDP-politician-stub)) (2) Category:Andhra Pradesh Telugu Desam Party politician stubs, ((AndhraPradesh-TDP-politician-stub)) (3) ((Telangana-TDP-politician-stub))

This is kinda similar to my proposal below, but without the party's category already existing. There are 89 instances of articles in the Category:Indian politician stubs tree also being in Category:Telugu Desam Party politicians. Of these, 78 instances are in Category:Andhra Pradesh politician stubs, while 11 instances are in Category:Telangana politician stubs. I'm proposing the creation of (1) the party's category and template, (2) the Andhra Pradesh party's category and template, and (3) the Telangana party's template as an upmerge into Category:Telangana politician stubs and Category:Telugu Desam Party politician stubs. Curbon7 (talk) 06:46, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

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Kerala Communist Party of India (Marxist) politician stubs

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Proposed: ((Kerala-CPIndiaMarxist-politician-stub)) Category:Kerala Communist Party of India (Marxist) politician stubs: Per scan, there are presently 81 stubs in Category:Kerala politician stubs that are also in the category Category:Communist Party of India (Marxist) politicians from Kerala (with many more currently unsorted). Category:Communist Party of India (Marxist) politician stubs is bloated, so this will help cut that cat down considerably. Curbon7 (talk) 18:27, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

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Karnataka Indian National Congress politician stubs and Karnataka Bharatiya Janata Party politician stubs

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I'm working on trying to remedy the massive backlog at Category:Indian politician stubs and its sub-cats. Template:Karnataka-INC-politician-stub has 89 transclusions and Template:Karnataka-BJP-politician-stub has 61 transclusions. Per previous standard, these would be created as Category:Karnataka Indian National Congress politician stubs and Category:Karnataka Bharatiya Janata Party politician stubs, respectively. Curbon7 (talk) 19:22, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

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Nepal history stub

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((Nepal-hist-stub)); Category:Nepalese history stubs: There are many history articles about Nepal that are stubs. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Stub types#History by location.

If there are 60+ articles that qualify which are not articles about people, political parties, geography, etc., I'll tentatively support. Her Pegship (?) 03:49, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
Extended content
  1. Thakuri dynasty
  2. 1960 Nepal coup d'état
  3. Mahisapala dynasty
  4. Soma dynasty
  5. Kingdom of Argha
  6. Kingdom of Bajhang
  7. Kingdom of Bhirkot
  8. Kingdom of Butwal
  9. Kingdom of Dhor
  10. Kingdom of Dhurkot
  11. Kingdom of Galkot
  12. Kingdom of Garahun
  13. Kingdom of Ghiring
  14. Kingdom of Gulmi
  15. Kingdom of Isma
  16. Kingdom of Kantipur
  17. Kingdom of Kaski
  18. Kingdom of Khanchi
  19. Kingdom of Lamjung
  20. Kingdom of Musikot
  21. Kingdom of Nuwakot
  22. Kingdom of Paiyun
  23. Kingdom of Palpa
  24. Kingdom of Parbat
  25. Kingdom of Pyuthan
  26. Kingdom of Rishing
  27. Kingdom of Satahun
  28. Kingdom of Tanahun
  29. Battle of Alau
  30. Battle of Bhalubang
  31. Battle of Belkot
  32. Limbuwan–Gorkha war
  33. Battle of Makwanpur (1762)
  34. Battle of Makwanpur (1763)
  35. Battle of Makwanpur (1816)
  36. Kailashkut Bhawan
  37. Ajaymerukot
  38. Gopala Dynasty
  39. Nepal during World War I
  40. Nepal in World War II
  41. Guthi bill
  42. Patuk Don
  43. Pajani System
  44. Manav Nyaya Shastra
  45. Samant (Doti)
  46. Back to the Village National Campaign
  47. Kaji Pratha
  48. Jumla rebellion
  49. Legislatures of Kingdom of Nepal
  50. Nepali Congress's Liberation Army
  51. Sector Kanda
  52. Chhintang massacre
  53. April 1992 Nepalese general strike
  54. 40-Point Demands
  55. 1505 Lo Mustang earthquake
  56. 1988 Nepal earthquake
  57. Rai (title)
  58. Treaty of Titalia
  59. 1974 French Mount Everest expedition
  60. Mithila (ancient city)
  61. Kapilavastu (ancient city)

Pegship, These are to name a few. Bada Kaji (talk • श्रीमान् गम्भीर) 11:35, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

Excellent. Thanks for the data. Her Pegship (?) 01:09, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
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Scottish field hockey biography stubs

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We have 67 mainspace articles that use ((Scotland-fieldhockey-bio-stub)), so may I please create Category:Scottish field hockey biography stubs to hold them all? 'Cause Category:British field hockey biography stubs is getting kinda big.... Shāntián Tàiláng (talk) 16:18, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

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