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Saint Sophia Cathedral[edit]

Hi folks- Right now, Saint Sophia Cathedral is a disambiguation page, but Saint Sophia Cathedral (disambiguation) redirects to List of churches dedicated to Holy Wisdom (which is a list, not a dab page). I think it should instead redirect to the dab page? It looks like Saint Sophia Cathedral was itself a redirect to List of churches dedicated to Holy Wisdom up until May of this year, but was (re)made into a dab page without bringing along the Saint Sophia Cathedral (disambiguation) redirect? I think that probably the "...(disambiguation)" redirect should just be updated, but I wanted to check here because this seemed like a kind of complicated situation. Thanks for any assistance! Cleancutkid (talk) 03:00, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've retargetted it. If there is a disambiguation page at X then X (disambiguation) should redirect there. Thryduulf (talk) 07:47, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There's also interestingly a dab page Saint Sophia Church which probably ought to be merged with List of churches dedicated to Holy Wisdom. Some of them may indeed be dedicated not to "holy wisdom" but to Sophia of Rome, but the churches listed in her article include Santa Sofia, Naples which is in the "List of..." but not the dab page, so I don't think there is any meaningful distinction, and they should all be bundled into the list as is usual for church dab pages where "Church of x" and "X church" are brought together, with all their variations of St/St./Saint and often with the international spellings of the saint's name (see St._Andrew's_Church#Italy). On the other hand, that list isn't formatted as a standard church name dab. I'm sure there's a churches enthusiast around here who will sort this lot out! PamD 08:22, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And Sophienkirche (disambiguation) might go into the mix. PamD 08:26, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the retargetting, @Thryduulf!
Yes, there are a number of different semi-overlapping pages, which I know that I found confusing to navigate when I was trying to sort out the links, and I think readers might find tough, too. I think there are 5 dab pages:
plus two lists:
Cleancutkid (talk) 05:59, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
please note that Saint Sophia refers not only to Holy Wisdom but also to a number of saints. In my opinions mix all together is not useful for the navigation and the page List of churches dedicated to Holy Wisdom is not clear. MrKeefeJohn (talk) 08:06, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I beg to differ: most readers looking for information about a church named after Saint Sophia will not know whether the edifice is dedicated to Holy Wisdom or to one of the saints named Sophia, and merging all the church dab pages would make it easier to find what they are looking for. Rosbif73 (talk) 08:18, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MrKeefeJohn, I agree that List of churches dedicated to Holy Wisdom is not useful/clear as it was/is, so I appreciate that you separated out the Saint Sophia Cathedral dab page. I don't think that everything should be thrown onto one super-long page, but that there should be some intentional thought put into what churches show up on what lists/dab pages (and making sure that things link to each other, which was sometimes not the case).
I don't have much experience with figuring out what the scope of dab pages like this should be (why I brought it up here), but ideally they can work well for both future readers (who, as @Rosbif73 mentioned, may not know who/what the church was dedicated to) and future editors to keep the pages making sense. Cleancutkid (talk) 05:35, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Add Santa Sofia to the mix - includes the Italian churches, whether they're dedicated to saint or to wisdom! PamD 14:47, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And although Church of God's Holy Wisdom was an alternative name already bolded in the text of Hagia Sophia, there was no redirect from that term until I created it a few minutes ago, pointing to that article and relying on the hatnote there to lead the reader to an appropriate dab page for any other similarly-named church. Ouch. PamD 15:09, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There's also a List of churches in Sofia, Bulgaria – most of which are dedicated to other saints, but which could be possible targets for "Sophia church". FWIW I've added this to the Sofia Church (disambiguation) § See also. Rosbif73 (talk) 08:44, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move at Talk:Madonna#Requested move 1 June 2024[edit]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Madonna#Requested move 1 June 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Dawid2009 (talk) 15:00, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move at Talk:Konkani (disambiguation)#Requested move 5 June 2024[edit]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Konkani (disambiguation)#Requested move 5 June 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Векочел (talk) 14:37, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move at Talk:Radość (disambiguation)#Requested move 4 June 2024[edit]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Radość (disambiguation)#Requested move 4 June 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 16:14, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Imperial University[edit]

I have been reverted repeatedly on dab Imperial University and would welcome a third opinion as to how MOS:DABONEBLUE applies there. Certes (talk) 15:32, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For Japan, I would list only Imperial Universities and the University of Tokyo (which, as the first imperial university in Japan, was originally given that name). The others are WP:PTM. Dekimasuよ! 00:26, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Big O[edit]

Notcharliechaplin (talk · contribs) has reverted three times the removal of a piped link to a page that does not mention the dab title on Big O (disambiguation). Additional opinions from editors familiar with our disambiguation guidelines would be helpful. —David Eppstein (talk) 21:45, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move at Talk:Ray Brown (Negro leagues pitcher)#Requested move 17 June 2024[edit]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Ray Brown (Negro leagues pitcher)#Requested move 17 June 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. It concerns WP:INCDAB / WP:PDAB. --BX (talk) 20:14, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move at Talk:Jutish#Requested move 18 June 2024[edit]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Jutish#Requested move 18 June 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 12:51, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move at Talk:Come On Down (disambiguation)#Requested move 18 June 2024[edit]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Come On Down (disambiguation)#Requested move 18 June 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talkcontribs) 11:56, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Name of DAB for Ballantyne[edit]

I think that Ballantyne needs to have a DAB and separate name page... should the current one become a surname page and the others go into a new DAB called Ballantyne (disambiguation), or the names go into a surname page titled Ballantyne (name)/(surname)? Laterthanyouthink (talk) 09:13, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Generally, I dont think standalone name pages meet WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. —Bagumba (talk) 09:33, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Bagumba. So do you mean make Ballantyne the DAB, and create Ballantyne (name) as a set index page? Laterthanyouthink (talk) 02:45, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Laterthanyouthink: Per WP:APOTITLE, make it Ballantyne (surname). Regards. —Bagumba (talk) 07:55, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Done (although it took me twice as long as it should because I managed to wipe out basically the whole article part after completion, by mistake!). Laterthanyouthink (talk) 02:29, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move at Talk:Fourth of July (disambiguation)#Requested move 4 July 2024[edit]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Fourth of July (disambiguation)#Requested move 4 July 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. TarnishedPathtalk 08:06, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Railways § Disambiguation hatnotes[edit]

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Railways § Disambiguation hatnotes, which is within the scope of this WikiProject. Thryduulf (talk) 10:04, 4 July 2024 (UTC) Thryduulf (talk) 10:04, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

intentional links of redirects to dab pages[edit]

Hi folks- I don't know if this is the right place for this, but I got great help here for my previous query on the St Sophia stuff, so I figured I'd try again (I'm not quite sure of the distinction between this talk page and Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation).

京 is the Han character meaning "capital", and is also a disambiguation page, , since the character shows up in a number of city names. In the "See Also" at the bottom, there are a few further related topics. One of these links is to 西京, which is itself a redirect to the disambiguation page Western Capital. Right now, the link shows up as a "bad" link to a disambiguation page.

The usual way to make it clear that something is an intentional dab link is to append a "(disambiguation)" to it. However, since 西京 is a redirect, not a disambiguation page in itself, that would not seem to work? (or at least the new redirect 西京 (disambiguation) would need to be created). I guess that we could just link Western Capital (disambiguation) directly, but I like the symmetry of linking the characters (as in 東京 (disambiguation), another entry in the see also), to make it clear why it is being listed. The characters could be listed after the link, though? Or is this a case that could be an exception to piping links on a dab page?

Thanks for any assistance/contributions! Cleancutkid (talk) 22:47, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just make the redirect 西京 (disambiguation). —swpbT • beyond • mutual 14:38, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Done. Cheers! BD2412 T 15:50, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]