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Hi! I was wondering if there was any consensus for/against splitting firearm manufacturer articles into the parent article and a list article of the weapons they manufacture. I think such a split is more encyclopedic but did not want to do one for FN Herstal unless there is no consensus against doing so. — Ixtal ^{( T / C )} ⁂ Non nobis solum. 17:11, 31 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I suggest evaluating that on a case-by-case basis. Manufacturers having produced a number of notable firearms, like Winchester Repeating Arms Company, or firearms with a variety of other notable products, like Baldwin Locomotive Works, might best be described in a separate article; while manufacturers notable for production of a single notable firearm might be adequately covered within the article about that firearm. Thewellman (talk) 18:13, 31 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The status quo is that it can be done based on the normal decision making processes at the article which in essence echoes the "case by case" idea. I think that that is the right status. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 18:28, 31 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I think this is a good case by case candidate. Some companies like say Colt will have a long list of models while other companies my have just 3 or 4. Basically the same point Thewellman made. Springee (talk) 18:39, 31 March 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

An article that been involved with (FN Herstal) has content that is proposed to be removed and moved to another article (List of weapons developed by FN Herstal). If you are interested, please visit the discussion. Thank you. — Ixtal ^{( T / C )} ⁂ Non nobis solum. 14:26, 5 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Winchester Model 1200 has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:02, 24 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi all, I have been working on the article but I am limited by sources. Google Books here, lists a number of sources in print that I cannot access. If anybody has access to printed reliable sources applicable to the subject, could you please drop by and add them where sourcing might be improve (see the GA assessment). Particularly, there is where olive-drab.com has been used for the years that the 1200 was acquired by the U.S. Army and the reference to the AR-7 as preceding it as rotating-bolt shotgun design. Also, that the model 12 (and similar) could be slam-fired but not the 1200. It would be nice to tighten the sourcing for this. I have gone about as far as I can without help. Regards, Cinderella157 (talk) 02:25, 9 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:IWI Tavor#Requested move 27 April 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. a!rado🦈 (C✙T) 16:59, 27 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:AR-15 style rifle#Requested move 5 May 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. EggRoll97 ^(talk) 23:10, 12 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:AS Val and VSS Vintorez#Requested move 3 June 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Captain Jack Sparrow (talk) 20:13, 24 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

As many in the firearms community know, Othais and Mae at candrsenal.com do a lot of solid historical research and are quite often cited on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?go=Go&search=%22C%26Rsenal%22&title=Special%3ASearch&ns0=1&ns10=1. In my longtime experience they are at least as reliable than Ian McCollum, if not more, not to speak about printed books on obscure WWI-era firearms. There has been some media coverage on their demonetization and an interview on Guns.com (neither discusses the historical research though). I have found some praise on blogs however: https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/tag/crsenal/ https://www.billstclair.com/weaponsman.com/index.html%3Fp=13173 https://www.historicalfirearms.info/post/136132906224/crsenal-you-might-know-them-for-their-great-site

The problem is they don't pass the criteria set out at WP:SPS, and a WP:RSN discussion seems to be needed. What do you guys think? Ain92 (talk) 19:13, 28 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:PP-19 Vityaz#Requested move 14 July 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 08:27, 14 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

FYI, your comments pro or con are invited at:

• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/TAPCO (mail order company)

--A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 19:23, 11 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

ISSF 10 meter air pistol has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Onegreatjoke (talk) 22:08, 18 August 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I thought this was a done deal back in this 2022 RFC but obviously not. A handful of editors did another rfc with no sports projects input at all. And it's being challenged because we just noticed it. This could affect almost every single tennis and Olympic article we have, and goodness know how many other sports. Some may have already been moved it you weren't watching the article. And not just the article titles will be affected but all the player bios that link to the articles. Sure the links would be piped to the right place if thousands of articles moved, but if the wording in a bio still said 2023 Wimbledon Championships – Men's singles or Swimming at the 2020 Summer Olympics – Men's 200 metre backstroke that would likely need to be changed by hand. There is also talk of removing the ndash completely.

Perhaps this is what sports projects want and perhaps not. Either way I certainly don't want projects ill-informed as the last RfC was handled. Express your thoughts at the following rfc. Fyunck(click) (talk) 20:56, 20 September 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello, I wanted to bring this page to your attention, as I think it may overlap with physics of firearms and internal ballistics, but I'm not an expert. I also wasn't sure what the protocol was for adding WikiProject banners to the talk page. Thanks for taking a look! Exobiotic 💬 ✒️ 13:19, 6 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council § Determining the future of B-class checklists. This project is being notified since it is one of the 82 WikiProjects that opted-in to support B-checklists (B1-B6) in your project banner. DFlhb (talk) 11:41, 30 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hey, just want to check in with some folks. I don't think the term assault weapons has been used correctly on a number of pages, and in the public discourse the term is politically charged and often used inaccurately. It might be best to put quotation marks around its use, or replace the term with "semi-automatic" weapons where applicable. There is a similar issue with "military-style" weapons being used to describe exclusively civilian-use firearms. 2601:444:382:FC20:1A4:401:E6E8:E98B (talk) 19:56, 8 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Handguards seem to be addressed in a stub article forearm (firearm component), but it is addressed in much more detail in barrel shroud. Should the articles merge or perhaps one should be deleted? Hi (talk) 20:08, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Al-Rashid humanitarian aid incident#Requested move 29 February 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 (talk) 00:58, 2 March 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]