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Hi, could someone provide an extra opinion here? An editor keeps insisting on removing certain bands citing they are not doom becuase one website doesn't mention them as such, despite multiple other websites asserting they are (and being provided for him). He has no consensus, has extremely weak arguments (I don't say they are doom, so they must go. This website makes no mention of them at all, so they must go.) and continues to revert edits despite policies and sources supporting keeping the bands on the list. DarkSaber2k 12:03, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Report him to WP:ANI if you feel you're assertions are valid, and this user is being disruptive. LuciferMorgan 23:16, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Is troll metal a valid subgenre, notable enough to have its own article? It used to redirect to black metal, then to folk metal, but has been given its own article again. Just wondering what the general concensus is. IronChris | (talk) 23:20, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Page was recreated yesterday (April 17), and it consists of an unsourced definition that I personally disagree with. The topic is sufficiently covered in the heavy metal slang article. I propose that either the article is cleaned up, or that it should be deleted. What do you other people think? Zouavman Le Zouave (Talk to me!) 18:38, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
I've never heard of "Sport Metal", but I have heard people insultingly call bands like Pantera and Dying Fetus "Jock Metal". Inhumer 00:45, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
The previous article was a hell of a lot better than this and was sourced, so unless someone wants to completely rewrite it using new sources coupled with the old ones, it needs to be deleted. Ours18 01:56, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
why the "key artists" of metalcore are changed? i think the former key bands were more appropriated....who the fuck are judge and overcast?
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Punk_music" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.220.116.152 (talk) 18:49, 25 April 2007 (UTC).
There is something I'm curious about... And I can't find any discussion on Encyclopaedia Metallum (if there is one, please show me).
How thrustworthy is Encyclopaedia Metallum? I notice Encyclopaedia Metallum is often used as source for metal articles.
I think Encyclopaedia Metallum is a good source to look for discographies, band members, etc. but a dubious source when it comes to genre names or what genre bands belong to. I think it is a controversial site regarding their strict submission policy and I feel they have a narrow minded vision of metal. I don't think we/wikipedia should conform to their vision too easily.
Nevertheless, I think it's a great site, but I wonder how much authority the site should have..
Is there a wikipedian policy regarding Encyclopaedia Metallum? Emmaneul 13:36, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
The only person who ever had a problem with it was Deathrocker/Daddy Kindsoul. Inhumer 17:24, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Encyclopaedia Metallum wouldn't get passed FAC as a source of info, so I wouldn't use it. Furthermore, EM as a source proves nothing whatsoever - anyone saying that its discography is more reliable than official band sites are plainly in Noddy land. LuciferMorgan 02:15, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
This article needs a drastic reworking. I am a big fan of this legendary band, and while I would love to rewrite this article myself, I am busy studying for final exams right now. I would greatly appreciate any help with this. --Eastlaw 05:37, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
You can put Coroner in Articles that need to be improved Emmaneul 09:31, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
That page needs most of its content murdered, and then needs writing from scratch. LuciferMorgan 23:23, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
Anyone else think this should be deleted? As the term itself is a neologism made up by a magazine and almost all of the bands are metalcore. Inhumer 03:11, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
I'll put it up for AFD in the next few days. Inhumer 00:16, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Alright, I nominated it. Inhumer 18:41, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
I read in Metal Hammer the other day that Chimaira wore it on a t-shirt for a laugh, as play on New Wave of British Heavy Metal and it took off from there. So it originated from a joke, if that means anything (The Elfoid 18:08, 18 May 2007 (UTC))
is NOT a metal band.
metallica that is metal
dream theater that is metal]]
iron maiden that is metal
my chemical romance is NOT metal. 24.139.30.154 22:36, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
I think MCR is NOT metal but have strong enough links to the genre to need it in their genre list. Just like Van Halen. Heck, Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin were mostly not metal based bands, but they get the tag for their links and influence. (The Elfoid 18:10, 18 May 2007 (UTC))
There seems to be a consistent pattern of users (mostly anons) changing the genre of metalcore bands into "death metal", "thrash metal", "black metal", etc. Most of these users are reluctant for discussion, and if they do engage in some, it doesn't get very far.
I fail to see why some editors want to distance metalcore bands from metalcore. True, metalcore has been associated as a "scene" genre, too close to the hardcore/emo movement - but many of the bands started out as that, continue to use hardcore music/hardcore ethics from their roots, and ally with similar bands on tours. As the saying goes, "one can't have their cake and eat it, too."
Some on W:M have helped in reverting band articles back to the correct genres; feel free to join. List of death metal bands, Darkest Hour (band), Job For A Cowboy, Light This City and The Black Dahlia Murder are a few articles to watch out for the frivolous "this band is not metalcore!" edits. --Danteferno 14:45, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Can someone please come and have a look at this and user Kissesforme? He keeps creating just about the worst band articles I've ever seen for obscure turkish detah metal bands just to get the names onto the list. DarkSaber2k 12:48, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
The article is poorly written, unsourced, and non notable. It should be deleted. As should this one. Inhumer 00:31, 10 May 2007 (UTC) He did it to the List of black metal bands too. Inhumer 00:36, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Afd all the article's that are poorly written etc. as Inhumer have described them. This project is swamped with stub articles and non notable bands shouldn't be added to the list. LuciferMorgan 11:10, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Then a lot of band pages will have to be deleted, a lot of bands are not notable (but who is gonna decide what's notable?)Emmaneul 13:05, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Ok then we can start nominating non notable death metal bands, I'll make a small start Emmaneul 15:51, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
* Wormed - Talk page indicates this band is notable, the article just lacks sources.
Template:Metallum has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Prolog 01:40, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
there are lot of important(or not) bands on wikipedia which are tagged alternative metal... is there a way to find all of them?
All the articles that allegedly need creation are all ones which would get nominated for deletion, and rather than encouraging more mediocre stub creations by the Project could we place a better emphasis on improving the articles we already have? I propose deleting this section of the page as it encourages article creation on non-notable subjects. Furthermore, the Metal page needs total revamping and the whole Project needs reworking. LuciferMorgan 14:05, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Does anybody want to collaborate to help get this featured, possibly? We need more collaboration. Most of the featured articles are featured because of WikiProject Slayer. I've been working on this article a lot recently. I need help finding sources, too. Doppelganger 16:18, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Doe anyone know why it was redirected to Thrash metal and why it doesn't have its own article (anymore)? Inhumer 17:35, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
The article should be recreated. Inhumer 23:10, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
I found the deletion dicussion, does anyone know how to go about trying to get an article undeleted. Inhumer 23:18, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
While a fan, I don't know nearly enough about the genre to write the article. Inhumer 02:44, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
It was deleted again Inhumer 18:12, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
One that is sourced though. Inhumer 03:22, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
There have been a growing number of Wikipedians questioning the need for a separate infobox for guitarists. The ((Guitarist infobox)) was created by Wikipedia:WikiProject Guitarists, and it easily survived a deletion nomination back in September of last year, but that was before ((Infobox musical artist)) (which is supported by Wikipedia:WikiProject Musicians) became a widely accepted standard. Both infoboxes are currently endorsed by Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography, but recent discussions between some members of the Guitarist and Musician Wikiprojects have concluded that it may be time to deprecate the guitarist infobox, and start replacing it. (Unfortunately, this is not a task for bots, and will have to be done manually.)
Before making any final decision on the matter, we would like to get feedback from the broader community, so I am posting this notice to several Wikiprojects which may be affected. Comments should be posted to Template talk:Guitarist infobox. If you have strong feelings about this infobox, one way or the other, please feel free to let us know. Thanks, Xtifr tälk 12:21, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
I find myself wandering around the metal corner of Wikipedia rather a lot, and I find that articles on heavy metal use a painful number of copyrighted images, especially promotional ones. So many people who are uploading these do not understand our fair use policy- if a free alternative which showed the same thing could be found, then we do not use the promotional image. Far too often, small articles have a few paragraphs, a discography and an infobox with a promotional image. This is not acceptable. Flickr is a good source for free images, and a bit of searching may find photos whose owners are willing to release them under a free license. If you come across images being used in an unacceptable way, please tag them with this, so they will be deleted. If in doubt, feel free to drop me a line. Thanks. J Milburn 20:58, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Aloha. I need a member from this project to review 8mm Overdose for notability. Thanks. —Viriditas | Talk 08:24, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
I posted in the discussion section of the article, but I will also post here-
Th 8mm Overdose satifies the criteria for for notability. The Criteria for musicians and ensembles states: "A musician or ensemble (note that this includes a band, singer, rapper, orchestra, DJ, musical theatre group, etc.) is notable if it meets any one of the following criteria:"
number 4 on the list states "Has gone on an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one large or medium-sized country, reported in reliable sources."
A 3 week tour of mainland China satisfies the #4 criteria.
Below is an "altavista.com/babblefish" Chinese to English translation from the website listed above... the translation is not exact, but the pertinant information is quite clear- tour dates, venues, etc.
"Opens the day" the battle formation: THE BELIEVERS follower orchestra 8MM OVERDOSE orchestra ALIBROTHERS "opens the day" the time: "Opens the day" from July 13, 2006 to July 30 to establish provisionally the route: On July 13 Beijing on July 14 Shijiazhuang on July 15 Anyang on July 16 Zhengzhou on July 17 Wuhan on July 18 Changsha on July 19 Guangzhou on July 20 Zhuhai on July 21 Shenzhen on July 23 Fuzhou on July 24 Shanghai on July 25 Nanjing on July 26 Qingdao on July 27 Jinan on July 28 Tianjin on July 30 Beijing "Opens the day" the form: This tour sings develops can by the Eastern music organization investment sponsor, this is an unprecedented rock and roll event, cross China, beautiful both countries, the cross friend gram, the metal two big oppositions styles, the cross music, the film and television two professions have broken different national, different cultural, the different style, during the different profession mutual lack of understanding, founded the prologue which the Chinese regular bus tours, founded center western rock and roll true to connect rails the cooperation, founded Chinese rock and roll to be official, specialized beginning of a matter. "Opens the day" the step: The 1.ALIBROTHERS work shows 2.THE BELIEVERS LIVE SHOWS 3. Swings the people ten thousand person of Great Wall to sign constructs ceremony 4.8MM OVERDOSE LIVE SHOWS 5.OPEN THE the SKY union special edition bamboo slip to sell "opens the day" the union special edition China and America synchronization tour release: This is Chinese first Zhang Zhong beautiful orchestra cooperation special edition □□□□THE BELIEVERS follower orchestra 8MM OVERDOSE orchestra special edition name □□□□OPEN THE SKY (opens day special edition)
above is a source about the 8mm Overdose China Tour from a local Hawaii newspaper.
There are even more sources listed in the wikipedia article. Thanks
This has been nominated for deletion; someone from this WikiProject might want to take a look at it and help clean it up. Chubbles 02:29, 7 July 2007 (UTC)