Jersey numbers

@Inspectormusic: You've twice removed the number from Malik Monk, this last time you left a hidden comment of Do not add a number until is officially announced and confirmed by the team.[1] I'm usually the least likely person to edit new players' numbers, so maybe I'm missing something. In Monk's case, 11 is listed at along with a picture of him wearing 11. Is there a period when numbers on roster lists are not reliable? Is there usually a formal press release on new numbers?—Bagumba (talk) 06:33, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

I believe by the source his number is now official, probably Joel Ayayi will use another number other than the 11 he wore all summer league, I won’t edit any more Malik Monk’s page Inspectormusic (talk) 07:04, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

However I checked all NBA teams rosters from the website and there are plenty of repeated numbers of players on many teams, and even some players listed with numbers that the team they’re playing for is a retired number, so I do indeed would be official only when the season starts in October Inspectormusic (talk) 07:10, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

I can understand a number being suspicious if it is repeated on the same team. Aside from that, what makes a number not "official" if it's listed on—Bagumba (talk) 08:29, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
It is tricky because when an NBA player switches teams they are usually just moved to the new team’s roster page with the old number intact. Sometimes they wear the old number but sometimes they don’t. You see these true up later as the roster is finalized. I usually take summer league numbers, Twitter number announcements, pictures, jerseys being sold in the official team store, etc. as proof the number is edit. Sometimes the signing announcement includes their number. It is also a bit compounded by free agents still being listed on rosters (this far into free agency they shouldn’t be on roster pages anymore IMO) - sometimes a new signee will be wearing a number of someone leaving the team. In the case that started the discussion, I think it’s most likely that Ayayi will be a different number as an undrafted 2-way player vs a FA vet. Rikster2 (talk) 12:14, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
Got it. Considering Monk's picture has his number and there weren't any duplicates, it seemed a done deal. In any event, I'd expect an edit summary explaining why should not be trusted in specific cases. Otherwise, it's hard to understand what is "official" and what isn't.—Bagumba (talk) 16:24, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
Right, if a franchise chooses to go through the trouble of mocking up a picture of the player in a uniform then it’s probably fine. I do think that a source should ALWAYS be required if the number is retired or held by a returning veteran. I just reverted Delon Wright because number 55 is retired by his new team (Hawks) so it’s unlikely they’d issue it to a journeyman like Wright. It clearly carried over from his old team on Rikster2 (talk) 21:56, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
Elfrid Payton is a great example of the practice. He was number 6 for the Knicks. Now that he is with the Suns his information has been moved over to the Suns roster page with all of his Knicks info, including the number. He isn’t going to be number 6 for the Suns, that number is retired (Walter Davis). When he was with the Suns previously he was number 2. But the teams often don’t update numbers on their roster pages quickly, which is why some sort of acknowledgement of the number is best. Otherwise we are making assumptions. Rikster2 (talk) 12:45, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
@Rikster2: I did not check if #6 is retired by the Suns and I mistakenly saw at BBR that he wore the number (checked it again after the revert and it turned out that I looked at the wrong jersey). I agree that a source should be added to confirm the player's number. – Sabbatino (talk) 18:01, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Why are we still leaving free agents on team rosters?

The vast majority aren’t resigning with those teams at this point. There comes a point where they just née go if their contracts are expired Rikster2 (talk) 23:22, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

I think it technically can be removed when free agency starts, but the latest I'd leave them is at start of training camp. I'll leave it to the people who do the edits there to decide.—Bagumba (talk) 02:25, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
Ok, I am one of those people who edit the templates so I just did it. Rikster2 (talk) 08:11, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
@Rikster2: For NHL rosters we usually hide free agents. But for NBA rosters I do not have a strong stance so I will conform to whatever is decided. – Sabbatino (talk) 17:59, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

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Luke Ridnour coaching history?

I noticed that Luke Ridnour appears as an assistant coach on ((Minnesota Timberwolves roster)). What strikes me as odd is that I cannot find anything online that mentions his hiring, let alone the rest of (what may be) a coaching history since he retired in 2015. Does anyone have further info on this and his coaching history? SportsGuy789 (talk) 18:26, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

@SportsGuy789: Some IP editor added it on August 9. I have not seen anything nor have I found anything about the presumed hiring. – Sabbatino (talk) 16:50, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
Gotcha. His hiring might've been a short-lived rumor in the Minneapolis area and the IP got antsy to add him. Either that or it's subtle vandalism. Either way I see it was removed per lack of RS. SportsGuy789 (talk) 17:28, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Add custom class name to specific element

There is an issue with elements inside 'Head coaching record' table. Go to, and under 'Head coaching record' letters 'G', 'PW', 'PL' etc remain white because of predefined inline styles: . Need to add some class name to these elements to handle them on mobile html in order to show the content correctly in iOS/Android. Is it possible to solve this in the template code?

Additional details - VadimKovalenkoSNF (talk) 08:09, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

VadimKovalenkoSNF: It looks fine for me on iOS on a browser, so I suspect it might be an app-specific bug? I haven't see any guidelines to date where editors needed to worry about encoding specifically for apps. The table uses ((NBA coach statistics start)), which is a simple wrapper for standard table markup; no explicit colors were specified. —Bagumba (talk) 16:24, 6 September 2021 (UTC)