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"Bjugn-saken" — what should be our name for an article?

• The Bjugn trial? (Nobody by the name of Bjugn, was on trial.)
• Trial in Bjugn?

This is a link to the Norwegian article, http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bjugn-saken.

--Putersmens (talk) 07:48, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps Bjugn affair. It is about more than the trial(s). --Hordaland (talk) 09:20, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes, Bjugn affair. --Lærarstudent (talk) 17:16, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

2011 Oslo explosion (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)  Chzz  ►  14:10, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

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Could someone who speaks the language please comment on whether or not this is a reliable source?

It has been used here.

Thanks in advance,  Chzz  ►  23:59, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

I don't know what sources it uses, but it looks rather sketchy on the first view. I'd say no. Eisfbnore • talk 09:14, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I think the article has moved on now, anyway.  Chzz  ►  07:34, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

What should the Enlish name of the article be? Statens autorisasjonskontor for helsepersonell?--BustingInflatedEgos (talk) 19:37, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Is Svein Eidsvik notable? He has an article on Norwegian wiki.

The 2 references of that article are

• http://www.dagbladet.no/2009/11/13/nyheter/forsvaret/dykkere/9023881/
• http://tidsskriftet.no/article/1087171

He is a recipient of King's Medal of Merit — in gold. --Ønography (talk) 13:04, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

He has authored/co-authored the books at this reference, [1]--Ønography (talk) 13:15, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Maybe, but the Norwegian bokmål wikipedia doesn't do a good job at telling why this person is important enough to have an article. Ters (talk) 14:05, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Does anyone see anything notable in the references (apart from the discussed medal)? Does anyone have any other references with notable info?--Ønography (talk) 15:56, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

The Dagbladet reference doesn't look that notable. As for the medal I'd say that Order of St. Olav recipients are notable, but Merit Medal recipients not automatically so. Geschichte (talk) 20:35, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

The proposed renaming being discussed at Talk:Sigurd I of Norway#Requested move may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Favonian (talk) 09:32, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?artid=10089967

(We already have an article about another Norwegian doctor with and identical name, professor Eirik Solheim.)

In which article does this reference belong?

(The administrative proceedings against him, might be more notable than the doctor himself. And if none of these are notable enough to warrant an article, then I think that the references might be notable enough to warrant inclusion in some other of our articles. Suggestions?

(That a majority or minority does not see any notability, is hereby noted in advance.

That a majority or minority views/ does not view this as wikinews, is hereby noted in advance.)

The reference indicates that he was a member of Vigrid (Norway). But I have no references that show that he was a notable member of Vigrid.--Hirzflag (talk) 09:03, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

• I wouldn't write about it anywhere, unless he is actually banned. Geschichte (talk) 11:37, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

is an article which needs a lot of work. I've just reduced the amount of flowery phrasing. More work is required to achieve an encyclopedic tone. Many more references are needed. --Hordaland (talk) 13:13, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

There are now 3 articles about Trial and conviction of Joshua French and Tjostolv Moland, Joshua French, and Tjostolv Moland.

There is an ongoing discussion to delete a preceding article, [2].

Please note that 2 of the above articles have interwiki to Norwegian.--Solotaig (talk) 16:38, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

I am thinking about writing an article about Offshore divers v. Norway 2008 .

Does anyone have any other links [3], [4]? Solotaig (talk) 11:12, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

The article has been proposed for deletion [5]. Clearly a controversial subject.--Solotaig (talk) 13:24, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

I agree that WP:PROD is improper for the article in question. No need to tell another editor to "buzz off", though. Regards, decltype (talk) 13:32, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

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In case anybody is interested in helping out, I just wanted to note in addition to the template that he has copied from both print and online sources (see, for example, the comments at Talk:Norsemen) and has split without attribution from other Wikipedia articles. In that case, it can be a simple matter of attribution as per Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia, although many of these instances I've found have been forks that have already been reverted. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. :/ --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 23:01, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

About Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Norwegian Consulate General, Houston

Do you guys know if there are any sources in Norwegian that talk about the consulate? Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 22:09, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Are there any of the victims of the Utøya mass murder (that do not have articles) that are notable? At least one of them has an article on Norwegian wiki.

Håvard Vederhus was leader of School Student Union of Norway, 2008-2009. --Hirzflag (talk) 07:10, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

• He is the only one I can think of. Geschichte (talk) 11:36, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

I would rather say that Vederhus is notable for having been leader of Oslo AuF, none of the other leaders of Elevorganisasjonen is notable anyways. And if Vederhus is notable for leading Oslo AuF - Tore Eikeland should be notable for leading Hordaland AuF. But those two victims are the only notable victims I can think of. Mentoz86 (talk) 12:03, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

The discussion regarding Tore Eikeland is at [6]. Please do not spread the discussion.--85.166.141.247 (talk) 10:28, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Non-leader and non-elected by the general public

Here is a link to a deletion discussion about an article about one of the victims,[7].

--85.166.141.247 (talk) 10:33, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

The elite football group of SFK Lyn, called FK Lyn was bankrupted last year. But the Lyn are back - and will be playing in 2012 Norwegian Third Division. What should we do with the articles?

"FK Lyn was a football club" and "Lyn Fotball is a football club playing in Norwegian Third Division"

or

"FK Lyn was bankrupted in 2010, but started to play in 2011 Norwegian Fourth Division" ?

When I read the article about SFK Lyn, it seems clear to that FK Lyn is still bankrupt, and the team playing in next years 3. Division is SFK Lyn or Lyn Fotball.

But anyways - I think the way the FK Lyn article is now, is very misleading. Any thoughts ? Mentoz86 (talk) 14:16, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

• I haven't looked at the articles but this is correct: FK Lyn was not a club, but was the elite football branch of the multi-sports club SFK Lyn. FK Lyn does not exist anymore. Lyn Fotball is not a club either, but co-existed with FK Lyn as the "low-key" football branch of SFK Lyn, but since mid-2010 it is the only football branch of SFK Lyn. Lyn Fotball does field a men's senior team in the Third Division, following promotion from the Fourth Division in 2011. Geschichte (talk) 22:30, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

• Yesterday, the user Jolicnikola moved the page from FK Lyn to Lyn Fotball. See here. However, he performed a copy-paste move, so I'm undoing it and waiting for an administrator to move the page. Atleast that's the way I feel is correct. We could also, as stating above, say that "FK Lyn was a football club" and "Lyn Fotball is a football club playing in Norwegian Third Division" with two different articles, but I feel thi way Jolicknikola did it is more correct. (Except the copy-paste part) Mentoz86 (talk) 02:46, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

• I'm not sure if FK Lyn should be touched, since the club actually went bankrupt. Note that SFK Lyn now in some respects (on their own website) calls the men's A and B team "Lyn 1896". Organizationally, it's just called Lyn Fotball still. Geschichte (talk) 12:47, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

• If I'm not mistaken, "FK Lyn" or "FC Lyn Oslo" was established in the 90's or early 2000s like a "elite football club" (toppfotballklubb), like a lot of others Norwegian football clubs have done, to differ from the "youth and amateur club" (breddefotballklubb). That means that most of the clubs achievements (2 leagues, 8 cups ++) were actually won by "SFK Lyn", and makes this a whole lot more difficult. Just as a note, on nowiki, FK Lyn has been moved to Lyn Fotball, but as you said before, "that shouldn't be held up against this as a benchmark", but it gives us an indication. I guess this boils down to whether NFF and SFK Lyn considers the new "Lyn 1896" as holder of the 2 league and 8 cup titles. Mentoz86 (talk) 15:51, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

• Yes, the situation now is that Lyn only has a breddefotball section, but that the club itself divides this into Lyn Fotball (bredde) and Lyn 1896 (top). FK Lyn doesn't really have anything to do with it, but perhaps that article should be shrunk, the history section limited to the years that FC Lyn Oslo/FK Lyn (it was renamed) actually existed, and the rest of the history moved to SFK Lyn or a new article about Lyn Fotball. Geschichte (talk) 13:26, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

• I notified Jolicnikola about this discussion, but there hasn't been a response yet. But I feel that if we divide the club into three articles, (SFK Lyn, FK Lyn and Lyn Fotball) we are creating an artificial distinction between SFK Lyn and FK Lyn, because FK Lyn was the natural successor of SFK Lyn. I mean, you wouldn't create two different article about Vålerenga IF Fotball and Vålerenga Fotball, just because of a name-change? Creating a new article about the third-division-club Lyn Fotball might be a good idea, and revert the changes about FK Lyn during the last six months, and when we know more we might merge the two articles. The "new" club Odd Grenland is considered a successor of Odd BK, while the new club Sandefjord Fotball is not considered as a successor of Sandefjord BK, even though this is three totally different cases, I have a feeling the NFF would consider Lyn Fotball as a successor of FK Lyn - but we don't know that yet, so I guess there must be two different articles. Mentoz86 (talk) 12:24, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Wikimedia Norway was awarded this week, as covered in the Signpost. However, I don't speak Norwegian, and all of the reference articles are in Norwegian, so I've used Google Translate to collate the information. I would like a native speaker (I assume there are some in this project, no? (= ) to go over it to make sure I didn't omit/embelish/mess up anything, in particular the quotes. Thanks, ResMar 02:19, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

What is the English name of Stortingets spørretime?--62.92.144.15 (talk) 13:32, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

stortinget.no uses "Question Time". Regards, --Kjetil_r 09:50, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

I can not find any article (or redirect from) Crime in Norway.

(- Woman, 40 years old, raped inside Hard Rock Café in Oslo — The transgression/abuse happened inside a toilet room)"- Kvinne (40) voldtatt på Hard Rock Café i Oslo — Overgrepet skjedde på et toalett." might be a relevant link.

What section of what article, deals with Crime in Norway? --85.166.141.247 (talk) 11:07, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

From my point of view, this is WP:NOT; "Wikipedia is not a newspaper". Might be sufficient by mentioned this in 2011 in Norway. Mentoz86 (talk) 12:05, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Further surfing on wikipedia, leads me to believe that the mentioned link might be relevant in the section regarding Law enforcement in Norway or in the article about Police in Norway. (But of course, relevance would have to be demonstrated in any text accompanying the reference.)--85.166.141.247 (talk) 14:21, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

I don't see how a single article about a single rape in a single city has any significance for an article about crime in the whole of Norway in general. There should however be several articles that focus on the bigger picture, whether it's the rape wave, terror readiness, criminal groups from Eastern Europe, funding or whatnot. Those should be more relevant. Ters (talk) 16:03, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

I guess we need someone to look after 85.166.141.247's and 85.166.141.237's, edits and make sure he doesn't mess up any article, since he apparently doesn't differ wikipedia and wikinews. Mentoz86 (talk) 11:29, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Methinks the IPs are used for soapboxing by the person behind the Sju hav socks. Just take a look at their postings above, asking the same old questions about notability of controversial Norway topics. I've frankly had enough of this incessant trolling and would like to see this page semi-protected. --Eisfbnore • talk 11:51, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

I just provided a GA review for this article. Its main issue is comprehensiveness. I'd like editors familiar with the subject to take a look at the article and make a good effort at expansion with an eye to having good documentation of additional references. Cheers, AstroCog (talk) 19:40, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Air Norway's HQ (address in the Contact Us area) is at "Fosen Næringshage 7130 Brekstad" - Does this mean its head offices are on the property of Fosen Næringshage's at Meieriveien 57130 Brekstad, Norway? Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 04:27, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes. Fosen Næringshage, 7130 Brekstad would be sufficient, but if Fosen Næringshage is located at Meieriveien 5 you can write the adress like that: Fosen Næringshage, Meieriveien 5, 7130 Brekstad. Some Norwegians business differs between "postal adress" and "visiting adress", but in this case it looks like it the same for both. Mentoz86 (talk) 06:34, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! The address I wanted was the visiting address. Since we have it, we are good to go :) WhisperToMe (talk) 15:11, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Just wondering if any of you'd be interested in looking closer into weather or not the article about the Auld alliance belongs to this project... Look at the discussion section for more info this user comment: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Auld_Alliance#Documents_relating_to_the_Norwegian_involvement gives some examples of why the article might belong to this project, while other people commenting there things otherwise. The current version of the article don't mention Norway at all although the Norwegian article by the same name have plenty of information about Norways involvement. Thanks in advance for anything you guys choose to do with this Luredreier (talk) 10:30, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

With the several discussions on Norway's involvement and as you also point to, plenty more information on the corresponding Norwegian-language article that's more than needed for adding article to WikiProject Norway, so I have added our banner on the talk page. Also, as this looks like an intriguing discussion going on, perhaps more editors than myself will look into this matter? __meco (talk) 17:08, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:Norway will have interest in putting on events (on and off wiki) related to women's roles in Norway's history, society and culture. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: WikiWomen's History Month. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! SarahStierch (talk) 21:58, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Norway#Tax_level Norway is not a communist country. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.251.194.118 (talk • contribs) 14:55, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

I recommend editors keep Wikipedia:WikiProject Norway/Article alerts on their watchlist. It is updated by a bot whenever articles tagged with our project banner or placed in project categories enter various workflows (such as Articles for Deletion, Requests for Comments, Peer Review, and many more). This short page is also transcluded onto the main project page (at the bottom), but unless you scour that page for regular updates, having the article alerts page on your watchlist is a lot more effiecient. __meco (talk) 09:54, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

As you might have noticed, I trying to improve articles about Norwegian football here. I've found this site which has an complete summary of players capped for the Norwegian national team, but I am wondering if there is a similar site to find U-21 caps. Do you have any advice? Mentoz86 (talk) 17:25, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

I've recently been working on Owen Wilkes, a New Zealand peace campaigner sentenced for espionage in Norway. I would appreciate a Norwegian-speaker having a look in likely places for Norwegian-language coverage, in particular obituaries. Owen Wilkes is currently in the DYK queue. Stuartyeates (talk) 21:19, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Maybe you could try e-mailing Nils Petter Gleditsch? Or ask wikipedia in Norwegian, at least one of their useres is a librarian with a few books under his belt. --Chain of koools (talk) 15:14, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

There is an edit war going on in the article about the Norwegian foundation Stiftelsen Kvinneuniversitetet i Norden.

Maybe someone who is not one of the "usual suspects" can weigh in on the notability of the references from Aftenposten and Bergens Tidende.

Verdens Gang also has an article, http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/norsk-politikk/artikkel.php?artid=10070226.

The discussion page of the article has been deleted, but some of the points can be found at User talk:Meco, "A Norwegian "university" — and a co-founder". --Gerrymanders (talk) 00:09, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

This [8] is one of the versions with references from Aftenposten an Bergens Tidende. User:Guillaume seems to be impressed by a number of editors and sysops being of one opinion. On the other hand editor Meco has given a reason for not wanting to be involved in the discussion. --Gerrymanders (talk) 00:17, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia has a number of tools available that can assist in dealing with biased editing. I suggest you post a notice about the situation at Reliable sources noticeboard and/or NPOV noticeboard. There are also various other means you can utilize, such as calling a third opinion or request for comments. __meco (talk) 08:13, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

On that note, I hereby add a link to a version of the article with the mentioned references, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nordic_Women%27s_University&oldid=482451630#Controversy. --183.88.33.3 (talk) 01:40, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

I've always fancied creating an article on the (nearly dead) use of the subjunctive mood in our wonderful language. However, I'm a bit uncertain about whether I should create an article entitled Subjunctive in Norwegian or a general article entitled Subjunctive in Scandinavian languages. The former would be the most common (there are at present only articles about subjunctive in specific languages, not in language groups), but the latter would be the more semantically correct, since the subjunctive is effectively equally used in Danish, Norwegian and Swedish. Also, I would be greatly appreciative of anyone pointing me in the direction of grammar books dealing with the Norwegian subjunctive, both descriptive and prescriptive. Grateful for your elucidation, Eisfbnore ^{(下さいて話し)} 16:24, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

That be fine. Tvi vøre, gu bære, hoen ta. Signe ferda. Oceanh (talk) 09:17, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Far be it from me to use the subjunctive, but if I were you, I'd suggest that it be used, lest Wikipedia have no article on its use in our language. Eisfbnore ^{(下さいて話し)} 14:14, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Aha, it's konjunktiv. __meco (talk) 18:06, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

My only concern is that its use in Norwegian is nearly moribund. There are a few fixed expressions which take use of the subjunctive, like "Kongen leve" and "koste hva det koste vil", but it is very little used on sentence level. On the other hand, we have articles about the English subjunctive and Subjunctive in Dutch; the use of it in those languages belongs almost as much to the past as it does in Norwegian. Eisfbnore ^{(下さいて話し)} 18:12, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Good news: the job queue which has left Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Norway articles by quality log not updated since March 19 has now been dealt with and all assessment changes to our articles that have been made since that date are now presented under today's date. It's a lot, so go and appraise yourselves of which articles you need to take a look at, add to your watchlists, etc! __meco (talk) 11:05, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

There is a proposal to merge articles about the Ulla-Førre hydroelectric complex into single article. Your opinion is appreciated. Beagel (talk) 16:29, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi there. There is currently an edit war going on about Eskil Pedersen's article, with three participants: User:Toresbe, User:Roghue and myself. Toresbe is a member of AUF and have done an excellent job removing unsourced rumours and personal attacks from this article, and this is what the article looked like before me or Roghue did any edits. Since then Roghue have added (imo) well-sourced criticism of Pedersen, while Toresbe have been trying to remove some of it, while I have been trying to revert toresbe's edit and instead tweaking the article to a more NPOV by trying to fix the issues Toresbe have written in his edit summaries when he have removed the text. That edit war lasted till 10 January, and I feel that this version was something all three could live with. However, after Roghue addition on 17 April, another edit war have engaged, which I feel is much less constructive then the previous one. My opinion is that Toresbe is violating WP:COI, by removing sourced information that might put Pedersen in bad light, while his opinion is that he is right to do so per WP:COATRACK, WP:UNDUE and WP:BLP. I admit that this is simply a content dispute I want some more experienced editors to have a look at this so we can settle with a neutral version of the article. (remember that this is my version of this, and the two other participants might have another view on the matter) Mentoz86 (talk) 09:00, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

This discussion about naming of the film is occuring right now. For consensus, please discuss. --George Ho (talk) 02:44, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

I found some info on RSSSF about a Norwegian League Cup in the early 1990s, here is the links on RSSSF: 1992 and 1993. After googling it, I found it discussed on a couple of foras: vgd, kfl and rbkweb and it looks like the name was Würth Liga Cup. I am thinking about creating an article about this, but I guess I would need some reliable sources. Could anyone help out on this one? Mentoz86 (talk) 13:49, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

We have discussed this earlier, but since Lyn Fotball for an own article, I want to reach a consensus. I have opened a RM for FK Lyn to Lyn Fotball, and please join the discussion here. Mentoz86 (talk) 12:32, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Please check out the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2012 April 23#Template:Infobox Bydel. __meco (talk) 16:11, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Are we making the best use of our noticeboard? I feel we are not. Are there any changes we can insititute to make it into more of a dynamic tool than it currently is? Could we not seek to use it in the manner other non-regional noticeboards are utilized, e.g. WP:RSN, WP:NPOVN and so on? __meco (talk) 20:44, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

I believe we can improve this. At the moment, its primarly focus is for creating articles, and it's almost only Tippeligaen-players from 1995 and Architects on the list. I think we should move our focus to improve articles, as we already have a huge amount of stub. We should update the Wikipedia:WikiProject Norway/Cleanup listing, and instead of simply adding a bunch of names we should add a few articles that we really think we need (like the three current Ullensaker/Kisa players that Geschichte added with this edit). So basically, have a few requested articles, more requests for expansion, get a up-to-date cleanup-listing and list some articles that should be taken up to GA and maybe FA status (Even though we have some editors doing a magnificent job on the GA's). Mentoz86 (talk) 12:28, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

There have been some very tedious goings on at Margaret, Maid of Norway, principally concerning the meaning of Jomfruen av Norge. The current text states that this is "literally 'The Young Lady of Norway' ", although various editors seem to think it should state 'The Virgin of Norway'.

An explanatory hidden note was left thus "VENNLIGST LES DETTE: FORANDRE IKKE 'YOUNG LADY' TIL 'VIRGIN'. I HØYMIDDELALDEREN VAR 'JOMFRU' ELLER 'JUNGFRU', SOM BETYR 'UNG FRUE', EN BETEGNELSE SOM TILSVARER DAGENS 'PRINSESSE'. ORDET HADDE INGENTING MED SEKSUALITET Å GJØRE. DEN SISTNEVNTE BETYDNING KOM PÅ 1800- ELLER 1900-TALLET. SE ELLERS HER: http://www.nob-ordbok.uio.no/perl/ordbok.cgi?OPP=jomfru&bokmaal=+&ordbok=bokmaal".

I take this to mean something like: "at the time the phrase was in use (the late 13th century) 'Jomfruen' did not have the modern sexual connotation of 'virgin' " - however my knowledge of the Norwegian language is scant, and far less do I have any understanding of the subtleties of changing use and meaning. If someone could clarify this I'd be very grateful. Ben MacDui 09:37, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Your understanding of Norwegian is very good, here is a translaton: "Please read this: Do not change 'Young Lady' to 'Virign'. In 'høymiddelalderen' (probably the 13th century) 'Jomfru' (Virgin) or 'Jungfru' (Young lady) had the same meaning as today's 'princess', and was not related to sexuality until the 19th and 20th century." with a link to an online norwegian dictonary that doesn't back up that Norwegian 'jomfru' could mean princess. But I guess jomfru could also mean young lady. Mentoz86 (talk) 10:00, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

What Mentoz86 said. To add, "Jomfruen av Norge" is a Norwegian translation of her English nickname "Maid of Norway", and it doesn't make any sense to have a (different) translation back to English in the article. "Maid" could indeed be translated into Norwegian as "jomfru" (virgin) or "ungpike" (young girl). Finn Rindahl (talk) 11:12, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks. Ben MacDui 13:34, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

I have been accused by Eisfbnore (talk · contribs) of actively aiding rogue users "turning WT:NORWAY into a soapbox of grievances against the Norwegian government."[9] and that I have "always been defending the socks and the trolls in their crusade against the integrity of the English Wikipedia." Eisfbnore recently received an unambiguous reprimand at WP:ANI for vigilante behavior, yet persists in leveling accusations against me of trying to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia, specifically here at WT:NORWAY. I want fellow WP NORWAY members to be appraised of these ongoings. __meco (talk) 08:01, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

See here for an example. In my opinion this ribbon table does not look nice and should not be shown by default. Geschichte (talk) 06:58, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

I agree. This is some gaudy display that has been carried over from the Bokmål Wikipedia. I noticed it when translating Robert Mood from no:Robert Mood. I don't think there should be any images used to represent such decorations. __meco (talk) 07:14, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

I too agree. Unsightly. Manxruler (talk) 07:35, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Agreed. It's not very pretty, so I see no reason to keep it. Mentoz86 (talk) 13:58, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Could someone have a look at this template? An IP user has been altering the populations without sources and changing the ordering of entries in a way that doesn't correspond even to the population figures as s/he would have them. I've reverted to a version that at least ranks the cities in the order of the populations given; however, the population figures do seem to be problematic (perhaps out-of-date)—they for the most part don't correspond to those given in our articles on the individual cities. Also, the source link at the top of the template mistakenly leads to information about the largest cities in Albania rather than Norway; but if one looks on the same site's list for Norway, it includes only 10 cities rather than the 20 in our template, with population figures that don't correspond at all to those in the template. Is there some source (recent census, perhaps) that can be used to straighten all this out and properly source the information in the template? I'm afraid this is quite beyond my expertise. Deor (talk) 14:17, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

What the IP did is clearly vandalism. When it comes to sourcing, ssb.no is a good place to look and I will have a look later on. The numbers look correct, but they are organized after "highest populated urban area" instead of "highest populated municipalitites" which is the most common in Norway. Mentoz86 (talk) 14:42, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Population for cities is problematic for Norway, because the official definition of city (or town) doesn't correspond to the popular definition. It would be more reliable to have a list of largest urban areas in Norway and/or a list of largest municipalities in Norway. There are reliable sources for both of these, but not cities/towns. Ters (talk) 15:33, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

I've just noticed that we also have Template:42 most populous cities of Norway, which specifies "urban settlements" and which is actually used in the articles about the places named, whereas Template:Largest cities of Norway is transcluded nowhere in article space except the "Demographics" section of Norway itself. Perhaps the best solution is simply to redirect the latter to the former, but I'll leave the matter to you folks. Deor (talk) 16:28, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Just noticed this: Category:Norwegian military athletes. What is a military athlete? A sportsperson who competes in specific military events such as military pentathlon? A sportsperson who served in the military while active on an elite level, before, or later? Is the one-year compulsory service enough, or would they have to attend befalsskole or krigsskole? I think the category is flawed as it stands. Geschichte (talk) 09:46, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

I believe it's just a translation of de:Kategorie:Sportsoldat (Norwegen), and it looks like the Germans have mixed biatlethes with military officers who happened to be athletes. Alexander Os don't belong in this category, which leaves us at one article in that category. Might be a bit overcategorization, but the subcat should be kept. Mentoz86 (talk) 22:01, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

If you look at Sigurd Haanes' education he was not a soldier by profession either, he just volunteered in the war, after (as it effectively ended) his sports career. Geschichte (talk) 08:46, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, maybe not only professional soldiers, but also those who have served in the army during war-time. At first glance, the biatlethe(s) should be removed while maybe Sigurd Wathne and others like it might be added to the category. Looking at the whole tree, it's just the Austrian, French and Italian cat that is populated. Maybe something for CfD ? I don't know to be honest. Mentoz86 (talk) 20:46, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

I still don't think they are "military athletes" just for having been athletes at one point and served in the military at another. I am therefore depopulating the category now, effectively discontinuing it with no prejudice for recreation by someone who can define and establish the term "military athlete" (though we already know about military pentathlon). Geschichte (talk) 20:52, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

A military athlete is an athelete who is a member of the armed forces and competes in military sporting championships. Many Norwegian athletes compete with support from the Norwegian military. The biathletes and the skiers have been the most common but other sports have been supported as well. Individual athletes are supported as members of the armed forces in addition to the more regular sponsoring of sports. This is common in all countries but not wiedly known in Norway. I remember seeing Raphael Poire in a French army uniform, but have rarely seen Norwegian athetes acnowledge their military support. Liv Grete Poire in comparison is/was a Home Guard soldier (http://www.fofo.no/OL-kongen+bommet+i+milit%C3%A6rt+VM.b7C_wBDWYQ.ips ) as most of the Norwegian military athletes are and competed in military championships, but I have never seen her in uniform in the press. I remember Bjørn Dæhlie did mention his HV-background and has been active publicly on several occations (http://arkivgd.ha-nett.no/vis_sak.asp?refnum=11153). Ole Einar Bjørndalen, Dag Bjørndalen, Egil Gjelland, Tor Arne Hetland, Kristen Skjeldal, Anders Aukland and Tom Stiansen to mention a few Norwegian military athletes from the link above. All were home guard soldiers and competed in the military world championship.

I think the category could be usefull. It is possible to verify and the information is notable.

Inge (talk) 21:37, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

People that have participated in military sporting championship, fair enough. But you mention other athletes with a background from HV, right? That would be about 90% of all Norwegian male athletes wouldn't it, as I don't believe any athlete would have a good reason to skip the Conscription, and most people are later called up to HV. If you include HV in such a category, it would be overcategorization in my opinion. Mentoz86 (talk) 08:41, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

It was not my intention to imply that all athletes with some previous military connection should be included. Only those who have competed at a certain level in military sports or military sporting championships. All of my examples above fits that bill. The HV link is simply that as far as I know the majority of the Norwegian military athletes were/are connected to HV. This must be for practical reasons as all other units demand full time employment. You can also volunteer for HV without prior military service, which I wonder if several of the athletes have done to be allowed to compete.(NSF)

As a side note: there is a special quota of exemption afforded to top athelets who wish to skip conscription to concentrate on sports. Something no other profession in Norway is awarded. As a concequence many male top athletes have not done military training.(Olympiatoppen)Inge (talk) 14:55, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Maybe we need as article about this concept. Ters (talk) 15:18, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

That sounds like a good idea, and when the article is up and running (and well-sourced), we might recreate the category. Mentoz86 (talk) 09:01, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

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Anyone here bothered about this? The Rambling Man (talk) 21:11, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

I think the article Gunnar Sønsteby needs some work and would like to propose a team effort to improve it. Inge (talk) 20:59, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

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Bergen Oilfield Services is a Norwegian company that filed for bankruptcy in 2011. However, that does not necessarily mean it no longer operates. I tried to do some research to find out if the company is still operating but didn't have much luck. Anyone know of anything or a better way to find out?

The only thing I can find is that a lawyer has been put in charge of the company's assets (and the corresponding holding company's separately), which as far as I can tell is with the purpose of selling them in order to pay back as much debt as possible. I can't find the English terms corresponding to the Norwegian ones. Ters (talk) 14:45, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

The main page for our project doesn't look very inviting, I think. If someone with an eye for visual design and care for our outward appearance would give it a makeover, that would probably be a good idea! __meco (talk) 10:33, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

There must be references out there somewhere. What are we missing. Is there another name?

• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Reservestridsproviant

Also, if someone has a can of the stuff and a camera, we would love an image.

Many thanks, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:34, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Resolved

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:15, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello, I'm posting this to some norwegian wikipedians on en:wp. Please take a look at no: Wikipedia:Wikievent_Stiklestad_juli_2012.

Jeg tror det er første gangen vi i Norge prøver et wiki-event utenfor de store byene. Dette er ikke et kurs i wikipediaskriving, men en mulighet for allerede erfarne skribenter til å få kompetent informasjon om stedet og det de holder på med der. En slags «pressevisning», VIP-pleie eller 1-dags wikipedian-in-residence. Vi har lagt opp et program som jeg tror vil interesse de fleste som er opptatt av norsk historie, kirkehistorie og/eller kulturhistorie. Med vennlig hilsen, Orland (talk) 10:11, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Minner om dette; det er plass til flere. Mvh --Orland (talk) 20:05, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

When adding info to the Norwegian Football Cup finals in the beginning of the 20th century, I often find wikiarticles about people with identical names that was between 20 and 30 years at the time of the final, which indicates that it could be the same person. If you for instance look at Niels Onstad, do you believe it is likely that the former shipowner and art collector played in the 1928 Norwegian Football Cup final? I'm not going to do any own research and change anything without a source, but I'm curious if people notable for anything else then being a footballer could have won the football cup when they were "young". Mentoz86 (talk) 18:21, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Niels Onstad, later shipowner and wife of Sonja Henie, played football for Lyn in his younger days. He played as defender on the club's first-team. (Source: Andersen, Alf G. (1985). Som i en drøm – Sonja Henies liv. p. 146.) Oceanh (talk) 22:11, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Wow, that's awesome. I really didn't except an answer, just some thoughts whether it could be possible :P I'll come back and ask you again if I find other people that might have been playing football aswell. Mentoz86 (talk) 19:54, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

There is a discussion in the talk:Religion in Norway pages on the status of the Norwegian Humanist Association and how it should be dealt with in that article. The first issue is whether a line should show for it in a bar chart and a second issue is whether the article should be renamed to reflect that legally Humanism is a "life stance" and not a religion though as far as I can see for many practical purposes it is treated like a religious denomination. I would welcome some thoughts from people actively involved in the Norway project. --Erp (talk) 15:10, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

I thought such a category existed previously, but when I enter Category:Norway under-21 international footballers it doesn't show that it has been deleted. Have this category existed under a different name? If so, why was it deleted, and if not, can I proceed with creating such a category? Mentoz86 (talk) 13:30, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

hi im ashish kc neupane from nepal.i want to try abroad for my further studies im good in sports and have taken parts in different level of coaching in basktball from foreign coaches since there arent any sports colleges in nepal i want to do sport science so can u please help me out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.166.199.110 (talk) 06:29, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

I am quite uncomfortable bringing this up, but I feel a need to ask if others have the same impressions about two accounts that are fairly prolific in some of the same areas as the other socks of banned sockmaster Sju hav (talk · contribs), namely Roghue (talk · contribs · count · logs · page moves · block log) and Pass a Method (talk · contribs · count · logs · page moves · block log). Could Sju hav have been operating several simultaneous accounts, yet keeping activity and focus of some in such a manner that they went undetected until the more activist-focused accounts were blocked? I'm asking here to solicit some reactions before I decide whether to file more sockpuppet complaints related to the Sju hav individual. (See also Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sju hav/Archive) __meco (talk) 12:34, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

I have no experience with Pass a Method, but I have seen quite a lot of Roghue's edit, and I'm confident that he is not a sockpuppet of Sju hav. From my experience, Roghue is trying to contribute positively to articles about Aalesunds FK and politics (even though his political view might be the same as Sju hav's). Mentoz86 (talk) 13:20, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

OK, good about that. I just would like to comment that I do think also that Sju hav was attempting to contribute positively, and was so even for the most part. The problem was apparently block evasion. Even in one of the last rounds I implored the user to keep away for the minimum six-month period and then request an unblock, but that was not how the individual chose to go about it, unfortunately. __meco (talk) 14:11, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Well yeah, some of Sju hav's contributions are positive, but it's a reason that he was blocked in the first place, wasn't it? Roghue has now been blocked by Rettetast as a sockpuppet, without further explanation. Maybe that's why there are so few Norwegian editors in here; every time a new user come along and do stuff that one of the admins in this projects dislike, the user gets blocked as a "sockpuppet of Sju hav"? Mentoz86 (talk) 18:07, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

If that is the case, that is extremely unfortunate, obviously! I started this thread to make a "gentle" approach, i.e. to add an additional layer of checks to avoid innocent users being affected. Perhaps that has backfired. Also, if those of us with adminhood are too trigger-happy, not giving adequate attention to procedure and caution, that may have to be addressed as a separate issue also, perhaps not in this forum. __meco (talk) 13:45, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

I have warned a suspicious account, Lucabrak (talk · contribs · count · logs · page moves · block log). I suppose we can do nothing but keep an eye on it for now. __meco (talk) 16:41, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

He didn't like the warning, and wrote a post about it on User talk:Jimbo Wales. Mentoz86 (talk) 11:09, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Strange people. If I wanted to avoid sockpuppet accusations, I wouldn't edit like a seasoned editor with a brand new account. Yet for all their experience, they haven't realized that it's easier to revert what they write than it is for them to write it in the first place. Ters (talk) 11:55, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

We seem to be doing well when it comes to applying ((lang-no)) to automatically include articles in Category:Articles containing Norwegian language text. The problem is when the order is reversed, i.e. when the Norwegian prahse appears first and the English translation follows in parenthesis. The solution to this is to use ((lang)) This is done in the following way: ((lang|no|dette er norsk tekst)). See this example. __meco (talk) 13:18, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

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Three years ago, Norwegian football league were named Norwegian Premier League, Norwegian First Division, Norwegian Second Division and Norwegian Third Division. Then the top three league were renamed to their sponsor-names, and after the Second Division changed it sponsor name it was moved back to Norwegian Second Division. User:Eldumpo has started a discussion on Talk:Norwegian Second Division if that article should be moved to 2. divisjon which is the name that all the sources uses, and I want more comments from some experienced Norwegian editors. --Mentoz86 (talk) 19:07, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Someone at the WP:Help desk claiming to be Falk Rovik is disputing the factual accuracy of a mention of him being a "convicted murderer" in the Erik Solheim article. According to an article used to cite this claim Rovik was "ruled insane and sentenced to 10 years preventive detention". Is being found insane the same as being found guilty of murder in the Norwegian judicial system? Hack (talk) 03:23, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Aftenposten is likely to be at least as reliable as most Norwegian speaking Wikipedians, though even Aftenposten might be out of their depth when it comes to English legal terms for all I know. (For me, the question of guilt here becomes philosophical.) Ters (talk) 05:39, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi all. Zafer is being nominated for deletion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Zafer_Aracag%C3%B6k . I figure you folks would know best if they were notable or not. I'm having trouble deciphering if he has notable refs or not. PortlandOregon97217 (talk) 01:38, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

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Hello! I am interested in theater history and are currently focusing on the first professional actress in Norway, whom I have identified as Christiane Hansen. The first permanent professional public theater in Norway was as I understand the theatre of Johan Peter Strömberg in Oslo in 1827. In this article: [10], Christiane Hansen (later married Lang Bocher) is briefly mentioned as the first actress of note on that theatre. But that is all. I have found nothing more. Does any one here now anything more? At least the year of birth and death? Is she perhaps more easy to find under a different name? I do think she should have an article here, and given information, I would gladly start it myself. Thank you.--Aciram (talk) 18:03, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

According to road signs in Norway, the sign at right means "wrong way" and was introduced in 2012, (citing http://www.hast.as/index.php?page=skilting). It's clear what "Stopp" means; what does "SNU" refer to? 72.244.206.6 (talk) 03:58, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Turn around. --Hordaland (talk) 04:18, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

And it shouldn't be capitalized differently than stopp. Putting it on the SNU disambiguation page seems unnecessary. It's just an overgrown no entry sign to catch the attention and guide (stereotypically elderly) people who don't understand grade-separated junction. Ters (talk) 08:50, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

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Contributors to this project may be interested in proposed merge of Snus and Naswar at Talk:Snus/Archives/2013#Merge discussion. Cnilep (talk) 03:19, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi. I have been looking at biographical stubs of unelected officials, particularly non-notable, very short orphaned articles lacking references etc. I’ve found a set of 97 articles at Category:Norwegian diplomat stubs, which seem to fit this pattern.

The standard of notability has been set at WP:DIPLOMAT which explains, "Diplomats who have participated in a significant way in events of particular diplomatic importance that have been written about in reliable secondary sources. Sufficient reliable documentation of their particular role is required." May I ask which Norwegian publications should be regarded as “reliable secondary sources”? Does this project have a view on this?

Thank you for your cooperation. Regards. --Kleinzach 13:12, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello, I am signed up a member of this project, but hasn't been involved in creating these articles. I notice many of them use Store norske leksikon (SNL) as their source. That's the leading traditional encyclopedia in Norway and an entry there will often be seen as a strong indication of notability by Norwegian editors. But the entries in SNL for these diplomants appear to be short and CV-like, and I think you may be right in your suspecion that many of these aren't notable by the Wikipedia guideline you quote. If they have an entry in Norsk Biografisk Leksikon (NBL) it might be a stronger indication of notability, as these entries are longer. Other than that, coverage in history books and other academic papers etc. may make some of these diplomats notable, but this isn't so easy to check. Some of the diplomats are notable as politicians or in other civil servant positions.

• Below is a list of some of those I believe are notable (alphabetically by surname):
• Rolf Trolle Andersen Lord Chamberlain
• Kjell Colding (politician)
• Kjell Eliassen (nbl)
• Torbjørn Frøysnes (politician, dm parliament)
• Åge Bernhard Grutle - Lord Chamberlain
• Bjørn T. Grydeland - Secretary General at the Office of the Prime Minister (highest civil servant position in Norway)
• Geir Grung (diplomat) – Spokesman for the Defence Ministry
• Mette Kongshem (politican)
• Bjarne Lindstrøm undersectretary of state in the Foreign Ministry (highest civil position in the ministry, described as powerful in media).
• Wegger Christian Strømmen (politican)
• Regards, Iselilja (talk) 14:33, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Iselilja: (great name!) Thank you very much, that's very helpful. I've taken all the names above off my list, destubbing most of them and add refimprove tags where necessary. Best. Kleinzach 00:42, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

People with entries in SNL, a renown paper encyclopedia meet WP:GNG. Articles should be "destubbed" only if they are not stubs. Geschichte (talk) 07:21, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

IMO a single mention in SNL, without satisfying WP:DIPLOMAT, does not guarantee notability by WP standards. --Kleinzach 08:46, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

A subject either has to meet a subject-specific guideline, or WP:GNG. Geschichte (talk) 16:56, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

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Is it only me? Thanks in advance, XOttawahitech (talk) 19:58, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

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• Regards, Iselilja (talk) 17:24, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Hello. If any members live in or are visiting up north around Vardø, I'd love it if you'd take photos of the Steilneset Memorial so that we can illustrate this article with a Commons image. :-) cheers hamiltonstone (talk) 13:07, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Care to have a look at this submission? Regards, FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 22:14, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

God dag! Would you mind checking out this submission? Regards, FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 01:16, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi! Do you want a list of suggestions, or may I just go in and make some corrections myself? (There are a lot of little grammar errors.) --Hordaland (talk) 04:22, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

I believe the user wanted us to review the submission, but you should go ahead and do the corrections as this article most likely will be in the main-space soon. Looks like a decent article where the subject passes GNG, so I might go ahead and review it when I have time. Mentoz86 (talk) 07:37, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

OK, neighbor. (Eg er i Arna.) --Hordaland (talk) 14:44, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

• Go ahead and review it if you wish. We need as many experienced reviewers as possible! Takk, FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 22:16, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Would anyone care to make an archive of the oldest debates at Talk:Oslo? I am not familiar with the procedure for doing this, but many sections date back to 2010 and prior, and I think they can be safely archived. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 07:49, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

I'll go ahead and do it, though I'll sign some of the newer unsigned comments first. Mentoz86 (talk) 08:02, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

I've now archived everything before 2011, and set the MiszaBot to archive every thread that is older than 1 year. Mentoz86 (talk) 08:43, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 08:52, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

The usage of Veterans Day (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) and Veterans Day (disambiguation) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) and Veterans Day (United States) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is under discussion, see talk:Veterans Day (United States).

Indirectly, this concerns also Veterans Day (Norway). -- 签名 _sig at 08:20, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

The Norwegian Environment Agency was created in 2013 through a merger of two other agencies. I have created an article for it, but what should be done with the articles for the two former agencies; should they be listed as defunct or redirected to the new agency? And in the last case, what should be the listed as the establishing year for the new agency? Regards, Iselilja (talk) 09:47, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Defunct if you ask me. Geschichte (talk) 09:26, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

That's probably right, I did it now. I am not quite sure what to do with the diffent categories, but I guess that doesn't really matter a lot. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 10:32, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

It isn't exactly the field I edit the most in, but departments changes name every four years when a new government is elected – what has been done to the Wikipedia-articles when this has happened previously? Mentoz86 (talk) 10:39, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

This isn't a department, but an agency, which do not change names that often. It's also not just a simple name change, but a reorganization, which is also usually the case for departments. If departments get a new article for every reshuffle, then I guess it's okay in this case as well. I they don't, that doesn't mean it's wrong to do so in this case. It might also be a good idea to look at how mergers are handled for other kinds of organizations. I think it might depend on how much there is to write about the different organizations, past and present. Ters (talk) 16:50, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

English_exonyms#Norway. Can someone check this please. See also article Talk. Many thanks. In ictu oculi (talk) 04:33, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

In the intro (if you will), in the third paragraph and the last few sentences I found a few sentences that came across as fairly biased:

Key domestic issues include immigration and integration of ethnic minorities, maintaining the country's extensive social safety net with an aging population, and preserving economic competitiveness.[2][11] Petroleum industry accounts for around a quarter of the country's gross domestic product.[12]

I do not know if this group are made up of Norwegians, but I myself is a Norwegian, and I find it a bit odd that "immigration and integration of ethnic minorities" are lined up as number one here. It made me think that it is probably someone who votes for FrP who wrote it.

I strongly recomend you change it. It is in fact not such a big issue in Norway that it even deserves mentioning here. At least if you insist on keeping it there, please put it last, at the very least.

Thank you.

Kine Larsen — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.202.67.124 (talk) 20:08, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

I agree. I didn't remove the item, but I moved it further down, as suggested. Hordaland (talk) 22:11, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

I did a Google search on Norway "Key domestic issues include immigration and integration of ethnic minorities" and found that exact text on many, many web pages. Some detective work showed that it comes from the U.S. government (see the refs for "key domestic issues" in the article Norway, presently #2 and 11), notably the CIA. Unless a Norwegian source is found for this claim, it shouldn't be in the article. Removing it. Hordaland (talk) 20:12, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

I've archived some inactive threads to subsections which were notifications about discussions that have since been closed. — Cirt (talk) 08:50, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

A few weeks ago I made a resource request in connection with the article for Skiringssal, but no-one's bitten yet: I wonder if perhaps no-one outside Norway would have access to the book in question, and if anyone here might be able to help, or perhaps put me in touch with the Norwegian Wikipedia equivalent of WP:RX? I've had a look for that but haven't found it yet, if there is one – I see there's one for German... Or any suggestions welcome. Thanks. Nortonius (talk) 22:41, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

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In the first sentence, the word Dragsvik points to a location in Finland. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.145.17.201 (talk) 18:52, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

The Dragsvik in this article is a village in Norway, in Sogn og Fjordane county. It is called Dragsviki (with an additional 'i') in this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_villages_in_Sogn_og_Fjordane — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.47.81.128 (talk) 18:15, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, Google Maps also has it as "Dragsviki", so I've changed it to that, and done a little tidy. Nortonius (talk) 18:28, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

I've been through Dragsvik, Norway, many times. (There's not much there but the ferry dock.) Now I've just looked it up in the new map book from the automobile assoc in Norway, just to be very sure, and there is no "Dragsviki". So I've changed our Dragsvik article to Dragsvik, Finland. Anyone wikilinking Dragsvik will be sending people to the Finnish railway station, as before, but they'll see that they've arrived at Dragsvik, Finland.

(Perhaps, formally, someone should write a stub about the ferry dock in, and the ferry connections from, Dragsvik, Norway. Then Dragsvik could be a disambiguation page.)

But I hope this is OK! --Hordaland (talk) 01:09, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

The officially correct spelling is Dragsviki, for what it's worth. For those that don't know Norwegian language laws, that means it's illegal for Norwegian government agencies to spell it differently. (The spelling has however been grandfathered from previous laws.) Ters (talk) 05:57, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Interesting, thanks! --Hordaland (talk) 06:23, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Riksakten. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 17:23, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Hello, I've seen that an article exists both for Nautgardstind and for Nautgardstinden. These describe the same feature AFAICS. There is also only one Wikidata-item, which is linked with Nautgardstind, no:Nautgardstinden and nn:Nautgardstinden. Can anyone merge the two English Wikipedia-articles Nautgardstind and Nautgardstinden? --Floscher (talk) 18:00, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Nautgardstinden was a very short article so I redirected it to Nautgardstind without any merging. Thanks for noticing. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 18:18, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

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More eyes are needed on the Jens Stoltenberg article, see also Talk:Jens_Stoltenberg#Removal_of_content_on_Stoltenberg_and_Israel, Wikipedia:BLPN#Jens_Stoltenberg, Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Jens_Stoltenberg, and User_talk:Bjerrebæk#Content_removal_from_Jens_Stoltenberg. Cheers, Huldra (talk) 22:57, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Input in the discussion here would be appreciated. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 20:49, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

I need some help sourcing an article, Kule Kidz Gråter Ikke. From what I can find via a Google search, the film seems to have a lot of hits and at first glance seems to be notable. However since I speak no Norweigan, I'm at a huge disadvantage here. Can someone help find sources? I'd hate to see this deleted because the sources are in another language and the people searching are only fluent in English, which happens all too frequently, sadly. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 05:28, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

I added interwiki, but you've done a good job, so there isn't much to add. --torstein (talk) 17:44, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

A discussion on whether to change the title of this article to "Storting" is taking place at Talk:Parliament_of_Norway#Requested_move. All input welcome. Thank you. ^walk victor falk ^talk 02:05, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Dear Norway experts: This old AfC submission will soon be deleted as a stale draft. It has references, but they are not in English. Is this a notable designer? —Anne Delong (talk) 15:04, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi Anne Delong Looking at the sources and googling a bit I didn't see anything that indicated notability. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 15:18, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, Iselilja; I will let it go. —Anne Delong (talk) 15:27, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

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Draft:Helvetestinden. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 01:04, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Please do weigh in on an ongoing deletion discussion related to Norway. Geschichte (talk) 07:50, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Pleas add information about this country to this articles. --Kaiyr (talk) 17:08, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

•  Done --Hordaland (talk) 23:19, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

The 1865 census contains information about ethnicity and language in at least parts of southern Norway as well. That can be seen in the census itself, which is available, but I'm not sure how or if that can be used as a source. Ters (talk) 17:56, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

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Someone recently created the page Fredrik Skogsrud and it's nominated for deletion as a BLP without any sources. So far I can't find anything that really shows that he's notable enough for an entry. I found an article in a smallish newspaper, but so far nothing else. Anyone want to see if they can find anything? The article asserts that he's known for one show, but I don't speak/read Norwegian and I can't tell exactly how notable his role was within the show. I get the impression it's a minor character, though. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 16:10, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Reading the Norwegian Bokmål article about the TV series "Costa del Kongsvik": it's a comical 10-part series that started 4 March this year; it's a follow-up to two earlier series and again all the main characters are played by the same woman. The 30-minute short film "Leo" hasn't premiered yet; here's a 30-second teaser for it. Fredrik himself doesn't have an article in either of the Norwegian language Wikipedias. His resume is here.

Without good arguments, I can't see that he is notable! --Hordaland (talk) 21:38, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

• That's kind of what I was assuming, but I wanted to double check just in case. Thanks! Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 06:59, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

More detailed information about Denmark and Norway as Allied nations is missing, at Allies of World War II#Denmark and Allies of World War II#Norway. All help in fleshing out these (and other sections in the article as well) much appreciated! ^walk victor falk ^talk 16:31, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Has it ever been discussed here (and consensus found) on whether Norway articles ought to use US or British English? It might be advantageous to determine that at the Project level, or at least to involve more people in the discussion. It would be nice to avoid argument about this in future. The matter is being discussed/argued at the article Norway, not on the Talk page but in these edit summaries:

• spelling per WP:ENGVAR by script
• rv per WP:ENGVAR: no consensus obtained for change
• rv anti-ENGVAR reversion; no consensus to NOT use British/global spelling re Norwegian articles; UK English is the model most Norwegians learn/use; imposing US spellings there is not called for, nor has there been any consensus to mandate THAT
• rv: please read WP:ENGVAR - it is crystal clear that there is no legitimate reason to change the English variant in an article without strong national ties to the topic. Norway is not British, so this stays at the original variant
• ...reply: WHAT "original variant". go back in teh history; -ised was there for a long time until -ized....and "aging" just looks weird (I'm Canadian btw); strong national ties can mean "type of English used"

I understand the argument for British English; that variant has been taught in Norwegian schools for a very long time and Britain is one of Norway's nearest neighbours. However, WP:ENGVAR says to decide this matter by consensus for each article, so deciding it for a whole Project may be considered to be against the rules. ENGVAR also specifies how to act if consensus is not reached. I'd rather see a 2014 consensus.

Regarding the article "Norway", I took a look at the last version in 2001. There I found both "organized" (USA) and "defences" (Brit.), so the matter was not settled then.

What do you think? --Hordaland (talk) 08:22, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

What is the spelling used in Norwegian dictionaries? Sweden is another country where British English and received pronunciation has always been the version taught in schools, and the Swedish-English and English-Swedish dictionaries in my bookcase, from publishing company Esselte and quite possibly the most widely used dictionaries of their sort, use Oxford spelling, which combines -ize with forms such as "colour". It may well be the same for Norwegian dictionaries. --Hegvald (talk) 10:06, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

This can be tricky, because Norwegian contributors, perhaps even all contributors with English as a non-native language, might not be very concious about British versus American English. We Norwegians are taught British English, but are thereafter exposed mostly to American English (although perhaps not so much in writing, as though television, movies and music). I write a mix myself, and would write exactly like the examples from 2001. What Norwegians are taught might have little in common with what Norwegians do. Those exposed to lots of American litterature, will most likely write closer to that, than the British English they were once taught. Futhermore, I don't quite buy it that articles about Norway must be written in British English because that's what Norwegians are taught in school. The article might just as well have been written by someone who's as American English as can be. But it's interesting as a Norwegian speaker to see that British versus American English can cause friction as well, although I don't think bokmål versus nynorsk ever went as far as to dictate that some articles about places in Norway must be in one or the other depending on what is used at that particular location, before the two were split into separate wikipedias. (Not that the spelling issues in Norwegian wikipedias ended with that.) I like the idea of just letting the one writing the main bulk of the article decide, but as is sometimes the case within Norwegian as well, that person might not be consistent with himself, like myself. One might then just have to "find some scales" and see which side the article leans to the most. Ters (talk) 19:31, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Hmm... It's been a few years now, but the learning material we used in school were all using British English, except on a few pages where it was bringing up U.S. politics and society and stuff and thus switching writing style and pointing out differences between the two. The paper English-Norwegian dictionaries are using British English, and for a few (common) words (like colour/color) the U.S. spelling variants redirects you to look up the word with the British spelling. For words with -ize/-ise the -ise version simply doesn't exist. The Norwegian-English dictionary has the British spelling variant first and may sometimes point out the U.S. spelling variant. The English-English dictionary we were allowed to use on the tests/exam have all the keywords in British English, but does point out when there are U.S. spelling variants. Online dictionaries is a completely different story...

But as user Ters said; with increasing amount of U.S. tv-series and films shown here, the influence of internet, the increasing accept for playing computer games and some popular English books also being available in almost every bookstore before the Norwegian translated versions (for example Harry Potter to mention one - which depending on the bookstore was selling either the U.K. version or the U.S. version) it becomes increasingly muddy how each person ends up writing - without thinking on it. But that said, on the tests/exams in school you would get red pen marks if you used anything but British spelling (at least by my teacher). Can't be bothered to look up the current official learning plans and regulations for English classes, but don't think too much have changed. If a bot ot someone really were to go through the articles and correct non-consistent spelling my personal opinion would be to go for British English because of how we learn it in school (but often forget and mix), the way dictionaries are listed, how the official English version of many public institutions/offices/agencies/titles are, and the much closer ties Norway has to the U.K. over the U.S. through history. --Hekseuret (talk) 12:03, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

I wouldn't make so big a deal of it, if not for the edits I see in articles (not just Norway-related) where the only change is honour to honor or neighborhood to neighbourhood. The edit summary sometimes even says "corrected spelling". Irritates me no end. --Hordaland (talk) 23:27, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

We learn British English in school and US English from television series and music. A people of many proletarians, Norwegians are, nevertheless, uncomfortable with received pronunciation, which they consider formal and a tad arrogant. Link Norwegians have a rather stereotypical understanding of the UK (more specifically England) and the US. The UK = Queen Elizabeth. The US = everyone wears t-shirts.

I am not sure whether it has ever been decreed somewhere, but Britain's English has been the officially preferred variant for over 1,000 years. Having studied English as an international language (a half year only), I am familiar with the several reasons for the expansion of US English in the late 20th century. The question is whether increasing popular use in Norway during the latest 20-30 years is sufficient for changing Norway's long-time established preference from British English to US English. Let me problematise it further: Norwegians (including myself) do not speak or write pure US English or pure British English, but usually a mix. One cannot claim that Norwegians have deliberately preferred US English, a variant they are not capable of identifying and mastering adequately.

The United States of America is an important friend and ally of Norway. However, Norway and Britain have unique cultural, historical, and political ties through over 1,000 years, and my opinion is that this should be reflected in the language of the Norway article. US English might be considered correct in 50 years from now, but in 2014, presenting Norway in US English would be too radical, the way I consider it. No More 18 (talk) 16:30, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

More eyes are needed on Prostitution in Norway. I mentioned a few concerns here: Talk:Prostitution in Norway#Biased article, Cheers, Huldra (talk) 19:19, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

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The Ministry of the Environment (Norway) (Miljøverndepartementet) is now the Ministry of Climate and Environment (Klima- og miljødepartementet) as of Jan. 1, 2014. This may warrant some attention. Prburley (talk) 15:46, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Not only that, but it seems that also other aspects of the restructuring of ministries after the change of government in 2013 are not yet reflected in the articles, or just barely mentioned. Unfortunately, I don't know how to write about politics in English. Ters (talk) 10:02, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Someone created the page Bjelleklang and it's nominated for deletion as a BLP without any sources. So far I can't find anything that really shows that he's notable enough for an entry. therefore the article does not meet Wikipedia Notability guidelines .Samat lib (talk) 09:03, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

"BLP"? "he"? It's not a living person, it's a group. And a well-known one in Norway, at least in the 30+ demographics, although their peak popularity might have been before the web really took off. Ters (talk) 10:21, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

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One of the other wikipedias is having problems with the following topic: the powers that be, are not allowing text about the number of whistleblowers in the case and the number of police officers under investigation by the national police internal affairs investigators, in the Monica police investigation. (4 people of each category so far.) Other details about the case: an 8 year old allegedly committed suicide, the police investigation was laid to rest, a whistleblower on the police force results in renewed investigation, one suspect arrested (for the original crime) and a police chief stepping aside after the National Prosecutor chewed his hide. Involved in the case on the other wikipedia, and blocking contributors of the article, is an administrator who previously removed text and citation about local nationals being involved in a local massacre during World War Two. Is the topic of the Monica Case notable? --My banana-(and oil) republic inxs (talk) 18:28, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Tanks for writing this article, I live in the area (Rjukan) and this is importent for us. The Rjukan/Notodden World Heritage siste is in the Eastern Norway, not in the Western. This was World Heritage listing number eight In Norway, if all should be listed here. Gerdundula (talk) 20:14, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

 Done – there was an error in formatting the template. Nortonius (talk) 21:57, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Anyone remember what was in the article 'Landsmål'? There was one, but it's been changed into a redirect to Nynorsk. --Hordaland (talk) 01:42, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

I don't remember, having never seen the article before, but Wikipedia itself remembers: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Landsm%C3%A5l&oldid=468817047 Ters (talk) 06:25, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! I had heard that Wikipedia remembers everything. Apparently that means everything.

• Landsmål, meaning "language of the land/country", was the name Ivar Aasen gave the Norwegian orthography he created in the 19th century. In 1885 it was adopted as an official language in Norway alongside Danish. In 1929, Landsmål was renamed Nynorsk. The name Landsmål is sometimes erroneously interpreted as meaning rural language or country language, due to the Norwegian use of the word "land" in the meaning "countryside, rural area".
• Before the advent of Landsmål, there was no written standard for Norwegian language, though written Danish, which was the commonly written language in Norway and generally intelligible by Norwegians, was sometimes referred to as Norwegian. Currently, the most widely written language in Norway is Bokmål (Dano-Norwegian), a Norwegianised descendant of the Danish language.

--Hordaland (talk) 02:55, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Redirects are normal pages that simply redirect. To get to the page without being redirected, the easiest way is probably to go to the page and get redirected, then click on the small link saying "redirected from". You can then view the history, and even the talk page, as normal. This only works when a page was simply made into a redirect. It doesn't work if a page was deleted, and then a redirect was made in its place later. (Even then, Wikipedia remembers, but only superusers can see the deleted page history, if I remember correctly.) Ters (talk) 21:06, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your good help! --Hordaland (talk) 08:05, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

I welcome anybody with adequate Norwegian-English translation skills to join Wikipedia:WikiProject Intertranswiki. The current drive includes the creation of articles on Oslo parks. Given that google translate is poor for Norwegian I only managed some basic stubs. I encourage the improvement of stubs I created like Minneparken and for anybody to help create the others red linked on the project page to help Wp:Norway!♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:10, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Hey, I was wondering if anyone could help with the article Captain Sabertooth, which is currently up for deletion. I get the impression that this is a pretty notable series in Norway, so there should be some sources in Norwegian. I'll see what I can find, but I'm limited to English language sources and whatever I can translate with Google, which has obvious flaws. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 04:27, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Our article about Gerhard Hansen mentions the Leprosy Museum in Bergen. I think a photo of the museum would add to that article. Perhaps preferably an indoor shot, gloomy, maybe including pictures on the walls of patients? It's actually a very fascinating (and gloomy) little museum. --Hordaland (talk) 12:21, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Is there any chance a user fluent in Norwegian could quickly confirm a proposed DYK hook? The relevant discussion can be read here. Gatoclass (talk) 04:42, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

If your question is simply whether

When "Dead Snow" was launched, it was Jenny's sex scenes in the outhouse that got attention. 

is a correct translation of

Da «Død Snø» ble lansert, var det Jennys sexscener på utedoen som fikk oppmerksomhet.  

the translation is correct. (And I can't say that about many other sentences in that article). The article is from July 2011. In the original, there is a link that goes to another sex-filled article (January 2010, translated into poor English) about Jenny and her boyfriend.

If you're wondering whether Jenny S. will appreciate the mention or whether this is appropriate for Wikipedia, I have no opinion. :)

--Hordaland (talk) 05:42, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you Hordaland, but it seems I didn't make clear what needed translation. The hook for which we need confirmation was:

... that Norwegian actress Jenny Skavlan (pictured) has been "a bit annoyed" by the media's fixation on her body?

The relevant part of the reference translates in Google translate as:

She admits that she is a bit tired of the films always featured with her lettkledthet.

- It is used often in some promotion, yes.

- Is it okay for you?

- It has not led to any permanent damage, but I can get a bit annoyed. But aside from that, so am I doing fine. I do not go home and cry and lies in the fetal position at night, says Skavlan.

The word "lettkledthet" doesn't translate into English, so I can't tell whether or not the hook is correct to say she is "a bit annoyed by the media's fixation on her body". Any chance you could translate that? Gatoclass (talk) 06:34, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Sorry 'bout the conversation going on in two places. I've just answered that question over there (Did you know - Talk).--Hordaland (talk) 06:57, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Can somebody please translate the sentence Hun innrømmer at hun er litt lei av at filmene alltid promoteres med hennes lettkledthet? Gatoclass (talk) 08:48, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

"Scantilycladness", or being scantily clad, are translations of "lettkleddhet". --Gazprompt (talk) 21:39, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

What is notable about actors and actresses who are former models, approaching their thirties lamenting about "too much focus" on their bodies/sex appeal etc. when movies are being promoted? Has any research been done that indicates a Barbra Streisand Effect, even an intended one at times, when thespians/models complain in this manner? --Gazprompt (talk) 22:03, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

There are more and more one-liners about neighbourhoods in Norway. I believe that the majority of them should be removed. Xx236 (talk) 06:22, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi all. I'm working on improving all wikipedia articles related to the Norwegian pop band M2M .I recently managed to get the article for their debut single Don't Say You Love Me to good article status. Anyway i'm trying to expand their main article but Bing Translator just isn't helping enough with a couple sentences in this Verdens Gang source: [11]

Hitlåten «Everything» er myntet på nettopp Zach Hanson, forteller hun. Vi datet. Han spilte trommer i Hanson. Etter turneen ringte han ikke, vet du. Da ble telefonen stille. Det var bare turneen, så var det over.

The bold part is all I need translated, the preceding stuff is just so you can understand the context. Bing gives me "After the tour he called not, do you know when the phone was quiet. It was just the tour, it was over." I'm having a hard time figuring out exactly what that's supposed to mean; i'm trying to figure out why she wrote the song about him. Any clarification would be helpful. Thanks. Freikorp (talk) 06:11, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

I haven't gone to the source, and I do not know the song nor the situation. This is how I'd translate your bolded line, Etter turneen ringte han ikke, vet du. Da ble telefonen stille. Det var bare turneen, så var det over.

After the road trip he didn't call, you know. The 'phone was quiet. It was just the trip, then it was over.

--Hordaland (talk) 06:43, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you so much, that's very helpful! :) Freikorp (talk) 10:40, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

I think tour is a better choice of words than road trip, at least judging by what is on the articles for respective words here. Ters (talk) 20:34, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

I'm looking for the coordinates for Sula Reef. Can anyone help? This shows maps, but I can't seem to find it. Here is a map site for your convenience where you can click "permanent link" at the left to get the coords. Many thanks for any help you can offer. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 22:26, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

The pink square off the coast on page 96 here? I think it says "Sularevet". Is that Sula? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:59, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Back in August, I identified an issue with the Bergen article, whereby a (now-banned) editor had replaced lots of fairly well written prose with single-sentence paragraphs, significantly impairing the article. If this had been picked up at the time (more than a year previously), it would have been an easy revert, but it wasn't and in the meantime, good edits have been made. Is anyone willing to help try to identify which parts of the article should be reverted? Please see the discussion here. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:29, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Dear Editors, by reading the article on Stavanger, I realised a contradiction: the part of immigrants in the total population is 20,2% or 11,9%? Both rates are indicated, the first without reference. Could you please check it? Thank you in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.222.149.252 (talk) 12:03, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Template:Most populous urban areas of Norway should be updated to reflect populations as of Jan. 1, 2015. For the five largest urban areas in Norway, one can find the populations here: ^[1]. For the rest, go to: ^[2]. On the latter list, Fredrikstad/Sarpsborg is #0022; Porsgrunn/Skien is #3005; Kristiansand is #4002. To find a specific urban area on the latter list, you copy & paste the entire table into a Word document and use the “Find” function and type in the appropriate keyword(s).--Solomonfromfinland (talk) 01:32, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

There has recently been done a larger job on the Norwegian article on Sørenga in Oslo. As Sørenga is a part of the Fjord City urban development program there has been major changes in the area the last couple of years. The article has been merged with the article on Sørengautstikkeren, and then been divided in two - one on the historic area ^[1] and one on the district as it appears today ^[2]. I have contributed to the last of the mentioned articles. Is it of any interest to do a similar job in the English article? EllenPaulsen (talk) 11:46, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi! I am currently creating a draft for the article Draft:Tore Hamsun but am having issues regarding citation and sources as it has been declined twice. I would love someone to give some feedback and maybe help with the article. Thanks. Nikolaiho 00:49, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

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Today some very infantile vandalism in the lead of Jens Stoltenberg-article remained there for hours; we seriously need more eyes "watching" that article. Presently only 84 people "watch" it, and I have earlier noted other -equally infantile-vandalism also remaining a there a long time, Cheers, Huldra (talk) 22:23, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

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There was a recent redirect made from Lynge, Allerod to Lynge, Allerød Municipality. While it seems valid to correct the spelling to Allerød, was there a recent consensus or convention to also include the word "Municipality" in article names for Norwegian communities?

Regarding conventions, WP:NCPLACE makes a reference to Wikipedia:WikiProject Norway#Naming but that content/link no longer seems to exist. Dl2000 (talk) 18:44, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

The place you refer to is in Denmark, not Norway. Ters (talk) 20:40, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

D'oh - apologies for the geographic fail. Dl2000 (talk) 23:20, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

As for Norwegian naming conventions, what once was, was pretty generic and would not have answered the question anyway. Ters (talk) 15:05, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi! I posted a message on Wikipedia:Norwegian Wikipedians' notice board asking if it's OK to post Wikimedia Norge's quarterly newsletters there. Considering my edit was the first edit there in eight years, the page doesn't seem to be watched or used by many people, which is why I'm posting here as well. Like I said in that post, anyone interested in Wikimedia Norge's work is free to subscribe to the newsletter (you don't have to be a member of Wikimedia Norge). Jon Harald Søby (WMNO) (talk) 12:11, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Eg har skrive meg på. Er denne ei felles liste for nynorsk og bokmål, eller? Takk, Hordaland (talk) 10:32, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

@Hordaland: Nyhetsbrevet skrives på bokmål, men vi tenker å oversette til nynorsk og engelsk ved behov. Jon Harald Søby (WMNO) (talk) 12:20, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

OK. Was just unsure of whether there was a Nynorsk-page that I hadn't found. Thanks, Hordaland (talk) 20:03, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Any input on the band's notability and / or sources in Norwegian may helpful at the discussion. K.e.coffman (talk) 23:22, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

The AFD debate at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nazarian Para PMC hinges on the reliability of sourcing and the degree of coverage in the Norwegian press. Because many of the sources are video clips of Norwegian television, translation software isn't going to be any help; it will need a Norwegian speaker to determine which of these videos are reliable sources by Wikipedia's standards, and whether the coverage in these sources is significant or just passing mentions. (Note: although I'm shown as the nominator, this is purely procedural as I'm the admin who restored it when the original WP:PROD deletion was challenged; this is not a topic on which I have any opinion.) ‑ Iridescent 09:58, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

Just a warning: There is a rather heated debate over at the Norwegian Wikipedia over whether to block the entire 176.11.*.* subnet for trolling. This might be relevant not only when reading posts from that IP-range, but also when reading posts from others about that IP-range. Ters (talk) 12:11, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

I have today commented on the talk page of the article List of municipalities in Hordaland, Norway on the ongoing work to create fewer and larger municipal units in Norway.

It is yet too early to make changes to such articles, but this will require some work before too long. Just FYI. --Hordaland (talk) 13:20, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

These changes don't happen over night. Well, formally, they do, but we will know long before. According to the official checklist, it takes 18 months from the decision is final until the changes are put into effect. I therefore see no reason to go into speculation about what might be. The last I heard, there will be two changes in the municipal structure this new year, one is just a border change which I don't remember where is, and the other is a part merge, part border change in Vestfold. When we enter 2018, there will be a change in the county structure (which apparently will lead to some strange county numbering: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14, 15, 30(?), 18, 19, 20), plus four municipal merges according to what I can find in a hurry (neither in Hordaland). This should be fixed now, unless they chose to bend/break their own rules. 2019 and beyond is still just speculation, unless you want to write about the debates and speculations themselves. Ters (talk) 15:35, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

A small correction/update: The county number for the new county in 2018 will be 50, not 30 as I wrote above.

I guess one important thing to decide, if it hasn't already, is how to treat these municipal merges. It seems to be important to Norway currently that when the municipalities are merged, the result is a new municipality. Shall we reflect this in our articles by having and article for old Sandefjord and an article for new Sandefjord? I understand that Wikidata might have something to say here, and that they might be just as strict about the new municipality being a new entity. And going one step further, is 5001 Trondheim of 2018 the same entity as 1601 Trondheim of 2017? Ters (talk) 05:26, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

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We have a new article Cannabis in Norway, but it could really use improvement and expansion, especially from anyone who can read Norwegian sources. With a little polishing, it'd also be really useful to make a translated version for Norwegian Wikipedia since it's a topic of increasing interesting these days. Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney (talk) 03:01, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

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Hei -- How do I change the name of an institution? Former name Sámi University College is now Sámi University of Applied Sciences.RichardMattias (talk) 12:50, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Hei RichardMattias. You do it by "moving" the page - see Wikipedia:Moving a page. Basically this process creates a new page, transfers all the article and its history to the new title, and leaves a redirect at the old title (in case someone is searching under the old title, or clicking on a link elsewhere in wikipedia). It's really quite easy, the manual makes it look more complex than it is. Baldy Bill (sharpen the razor|see my reflection) 16:07, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

This article has a location error because it's location is outside of the region map in the infobox. The map is that of Oslo (the city), but Ammerund is located in Oslo county. Is there a better map to use here other than Norway? MB 17:24, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Actually Ammerud is within the city. Ammerud is located in bydel Grorud, and at (or in) Ammerud is where Grorud's administration has its offices. I don't know about the map situation. 176.11.72.146 (talk) 09:35, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Here; follow route 4 northeast to Grorud.

http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/map/google_map_Oslo.htm

It is also northeast (as the crow flies) of Risløkka, which is on the map in the article. It appears that Grorud is just outside of the map in the article.

--Hordaland (talk) 11:10, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

The map used is not a map of all of Oslo, no matter how you define it. It could have been if it was meant to show the medieval Oslo, but it is too big for that. Furthermore, Oslo city, municipality and county are one and the same (using the formal definition of city, which is all but defunct in Norway). The statistical urban area called Oslo does however extend beyond the county, yet does not fill all of it, but that is irrelevant here. Ters (talk) 16:07, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Well then if the map labeled "Oslo" just a portion of Oslo, i.e. downtown, a different map should be used so that the location of the point designating Ammerund on the map is actually within the map. If you look at Grorud, there is another unlabeled map there showing Grorud. That is probably the entire OSLO city and should be used in Ammerund also. MB 16:14, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Whether the map used for Grorud is of the entire city is debatable. It is apparently a map of the boroughs, however there are some areas not currently considered boroughs (they were before according to Wikipedia) that belong to the city and are governed by the city council (which also functions as county council). The only modern maps I can find of all of Oslo are this road map and this map of boroughs plus Marka, but they seem to be bad choices for other articles. This is by the way a map of downtown Oslo. I don't know how these maps are made or used. Ters (talk) 20:35, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

I've made a request for a new map: Wikipedia:Graphics_Lab/Map_workshop#Oslo.2C_Norway MB 05:01, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

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On Talk:Music of Norway the fourth (the last) box states "This article is substantially duplicated by a piece in an external publication. Please do not flag this article as a copyright violation of the following source:"

Thereafter follows a link, http://www.norway.alloexpat.com/norway_information/culture_norway.php?page=0%2C1

However, http://www.norway.alloexpat.com is a deadlink.

There is also a "show" link to an explanation from 2010 by Moodriddengirl.

Perhaps the deadlink should be noted, for example "... as a copyright violation of the following source (now a deadlink):" ?

--Hordaland (talk) 20:00, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Is it even needed when the other site is gone? It is a notice not to falsely treat the article stolen from elsewhere, but when that elsewhere no longer exists, that seems unnecessary. The risk of another false positive copyright violation detection has been reduced to almost nothing. Ters (talk) 07:13, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Another editor has noted potential inaccuracies; there is a large body of material at no.wikipedia that we could draw on, if there are any interested Norwegian speakers here, or folks in general with an interest in improving coverage. Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney (talk) 03:13, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Hello, I was wondering if I could get some clarification from anyone who knows anything about Norwegian politics/elections. In cleaning up some orphaned articles, I came across Asle Amundsen, who is listed as a deputy representative from 1985-1989. He was never a regular representative, apparently. Can anyone clarify what this means in terms of what a deputy rep actually does politically? Is a deputy rep an elected official in the same way that a regular representative is? Are they like an assistant to the representative? Are they considered to be fully members of the legislature in the same way that a regular representative is?

I guess what I'm trying to determine is, overall, how notable is a deputy representative compared to a representative. Obviously a regular representative is notable by way of the notability guideline for politicians, but I'm not sure where a deputy rep would fall on that guideline. Any help would be fantastic, thanks :) ♠PMC♠ (talk) 11:42, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

The importance of a vararepresentant (I'm not sure deputy is a good word for this) will vary. In the last hundred years or so (except wartime), the cabinet has been made up of at least some elected members of parliament (usually at least the party leader[s]). Since you can't be both a minister and a member of parliament, their position in parliament must be filled by a replacement. Assuming the cabinet does not resign or gets overthrown by the Storting, this replacement will basically function as any other representative throughout the entire four year period between elections (but it is made clear that they are not). If the cabinet falls, its elected members return to parliament and their replacements must give their seats back. Others may just fill the position of a regular representative who is absent. In any case, they are simply the next person on the list of candidates for the same party in the same county that didn't get elected or is already serving as vararepresentant. If the party had just gotten more votes in that county, they would have been proper representatives. According to Norwegian Wikipedia, the same is the case if a representative dies. That is at least how I understand it as a voter, complemented by Norwegian Wikipedia. Ters (talk) 20:47, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, apologies about the terminology, that seems to be what is used all over enwiki so I used that. So...okay. Someone who is the vararepresentant would probably be notable if they served in place of the representative for the whole term, or if they stepped in because the representative died, because it seems like they are basically functioning as a member of Parliament. But if they only stepped in temporarily while the representative was on vacation and never otherwise functioned as a member of Parliament, they would probably not be notable? (Thanks for your swift response by the way, I appreciate it!) ♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:41, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

(For all I know, it might be the Storting itself that came up with using the word deputy, but at the time I answered, it wasn't a familiar use of that word. Having since consulted a few dictionaries, it appears that the word deputy has a broader range of meanings than I knew of. In this case, it means substitute, and not representative or envoy.) I think a deputy member of parliament can make as much of an impact as a regular member, considering that their votes (in parliament) does not count less (that would ruin the point of filling the vacant seat), that there are a lot of members of parliament that are unknown to most people and that the party leaders often keep their party members in line. Given a strong enough personality, they can affect the course of the country as much as any other. That would likely cause enough publicity to take notice of beyond just being on a list of representatives, though. It should however be noted that the absence of a member of parliament isn't always filled by a replacement. The press did some writing last year about members of parliament, especially party leaders, being AWOL a lot. Ters (talk) 07:18, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

As a native speaker of (American) English and a long-time resident of Norway, I find the use of "deputy" here very wrong. "Substitute" is the first term that comes to mind. Whenever even a small, local organization elects officers/committee chairs/other representatives, "vara" are elected at the same time. (Until recently, the word was "varamann, varamenn" or the long "vararepresentant", but since changing man to woman was a bother, the word "vara" is now accepted as a noun.) Some people are elected year after year and never do anything but receive minutes of meetings. Others are officially active for shorter or longer periods. They act as substitutes and certainly never (or rarely) as deputies. Fairly often in organizations, the first "vara" is allowed/encouraged to meet without the right to vote but with rights to speak (these are the ones who actually read the minutes they receive). "Deputy" is the wrong word. --Hordaland (talk) 08:25, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

I'm totally neutral on the terminology. I'm only using what is being used in a number of articles on enwiki already. My concern is whether or not someone who was only ever a vara and never a regular representative might be considered a "member" of the Storting, for the purposes of determining notability by way of WP:NPOL. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 08:43, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

The Storting certainly makes an effort of listing all representatives and "vara" representatives, and they are elected through the same formal process. However, the "vare" representatives are explicitly listed as a such in most listings I find, and one of them[12] makes a distinction between those that "permanently" substitute for others (that is, those substituting for cabinet members) and the others. It seems that most of these lists, including the one I link to, are only available in Norwegian. Ters (talk) 19:43, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

I found a dictionary which states that Substitute Member of the Storting is the official English for vararepresentant according to the Storting itself. Ters (talk) 17:33, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

It seems to me like the terminology ("substitute" member) is suggestive that they aren't fully "members" of the Storting and might therefore fail WP:NPOL. I'm going to take Asle Amundsen to AFD as a test case, pointing people to this discussion, to see what the general community thinks. I personally think there is a reasonable distinction in terms of notability between people who sub in for a week while their representative is on vacation and the people who sub in for four years because their representative is part of cabinet and can't remain on the Storting, but I would like to see what the community's thoughts are. I'm going to leave this discussion up for another couple days before starting the AfD, but I'll leave a note here when I do in case anyone who has participated here wants to chip in. I appreciate your help, Ters and Hordaland. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 07:05, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Hey, just a heads up, I have nominated Asle Amundsen for deletion as a test case for the notability of vara, if you want to weigh in, please head to the AfD here. Thanks! ♠PMC♠ (talk) 05:16, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

A couple of notes on the text in the nomination: A vara is elected just the same way as a regular representative through exactly the same process at exactly the same time. They just sort of "lost" the election. Since the Norwegian election process includes not only voting for a party list with candidates ranked by the party, but also for voting candidates up and down on the list, there is actually a partially active decision of the voters on who it is going to be. It could even be the original top candidate. Not that this really changes the notability of "vara" representatives significantly in my opinion. (A top candidate might often have other claims to fame.) The statement just seemed strange to me. The other thing is that when a representative dies is not the same case as when a representative becomes a cabinet member, as the last sentence of the first paragraph seems to suggest. In the former case, the position is not filled in by a "vara", but by a permanent representative that was until that point a "vara". (I guess that means that if a person is filling in for a cabinet member, but another representative for the same party from the same county dies, the former person becomes a permanent member replacing the dead one, while the next vara takes over substituting for the cabinet member. And if it was the cabinet member who died, the long-term substitute becomes a permanent representative. If that also person also takes over the same or another cabinet post, which is very unlikely, but possible, you end up having a vara substituting for a former vara.) Ters (talk) 07:08, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

I clarified per your response. Does that make more sense? I apologize for the errors, I was trying to condense and explain as concisely as possible. I hope it's more accurate now. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 08:23, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

I don't follow this discussion page. Any deputy who actually meets in parliamentary session are considered MPs. We have first, second, third deputies and so on, and the fourth or fifth deputy might never meet in Parliament and are thus not notable. Cheers, Geschichte (talk) 22:02, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

While a "vara" is not legally a lesser member of parliament when in session (as has been pointed out already), nor more subordinate than any other than the party leaders, it might be worth noticing that the Storting does differentiate between representatives, "vara" representatives filling in for a cabinet member and the other "vara"s in their lists. The latter group doesn't even appear in any English list that I could find at the Storting's website. But I guess the question that is supposed to be settled is whether someone is notable just for having certain powers for a few hours, even if all they did was play games on their smartphones. (For this particular representative, smartphones hadn't been invented yet during his term and he spent more than a few hours on the benches, so that particular extreme is not a problem. No MP has been caught playing games on their smartphones for four years straight, yet.) Ters (talk) 07:03, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Representatives that were originally deputies, but "møtte fast" or "rykket opp", are categorized as full members of Parliament here at Wikipedia. Geschichte (talk) 19:09, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

In the latter case, that seems correct, although one should perhaps categorize them as both full members and substitutes. In the former case, the Storting itself seems to be clear that they are not "full members" (because they can be kicked out at any moment, I guess), however, the category doesn't say anything about being "full", so that doesn't matter. In fact, if it did, having deputies as a sub-category would be wrong, which is also why promoted substitutes are not categorized as both. I guess. (Reminds me a bit about the controversy over "planet". In general; I haven't followed any such debate on Wikipedia.) Ters (talk) 06:39, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Hey folks! Can anyone confirm that Sandbakken, Sarpsborg is indeed a place? I can't find any mention of it on Google or Google Books (except for a school which appears to be called Sandbakken, but I can't figure out if it's in Sandbakken). The search hits I can find are otherwise all of people surnamed Sandbakken. If I search Geonames the only populated place that comes up is in Oslo. (Also if it is indeed a place and you can add a reference to the article, you'll be my hero). Any help would be much appreciated! Thanks! Ajpolino (talk) 01:38, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Also the listed coordinates appear to lead to a field in the middle of nowhere... Ajpolino (talk) 01:40, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Fixed. And don't waste time open it in the waste of space that is Google, use Open Street Maps, it shows Sandbakken. I don't know if I get this option because I live where I live, but on the right side of the list, I get a choice of Norwegian maps as well, try one of those if you get them (at least the Gule sider map showed Sandbakken). Paaln (talk) 18:52, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

As for the list of Norwegian maps, the one called Norgeskart should be the most authorative there is, although the URL is outdated (a redirect seems to be in place for now). I'm not sure if "urban settlement" is the most correct description of Sandbakken. The name is registered in the Norwegian place name registry as something that might be translated as "part of urban area", although the place name registry appears to use a somewhat different and less formal definition of urban area than what is described in urban area. It could be something like a neighborhood. Apparently within the city of Sarpsborg and the urban area of Fredrikstad/Sarpsborg (the slash is part of the name). Ters (talk) 19:12, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks a million! I'm having some trouble navigating the Norgeskart site (probably because I don't speak Norwegian and Google translate is having trouble translating text within the search box suggestions). If someone could add a reference of some kind to the article that would be fantastic. (Also, Open Street Maps does indeed show it very clearly. Not sure why Google Maps does so poorly there. Thanks for the tip!). Happy editing! Ajpolino (talk) 18:48, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Majorstuen and Helsfyr are redirected as boroughs/districts of Oslo. Is there any reasons for or discussions foregoing this nonsense? Helge Høifødt (talk) 18:00, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

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• Third Kingdom of Norway - Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 May 27#Third Kingdom of Norway. Thryduulf (talk) 13:31, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

I have opened a discussion at Talk:Battle of Maldon#Day and month of the battle, and am notifying the WikiProjects identified on that page. Narky Blert (talk) 22:20, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Rudolf Elias Peersen is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rudolf Elias Peersen until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Theprussian (talk) 20:28, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia has many thousands of wikilinks which point to disambiguation pages. It would be useful to readers if these links directed them to the specific pages of interest, rather than making them search through a list. Members of WikiProject Disambiguation have been working on this and the total number is now below 20,000 for the first time. Some of these links require specialist knowledge of the topics concerned and therefore it would be great if you could help in your area of expertise.

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Please take a few minutes to help make these more useful to our readers.— Rod ^talk 17:42, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

If anyone is interested, Arne & Carlos can use some help. There´s paid editors and stuff, but it´s a notable topic, plenty of sources in norsk, some in english. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:10, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2018_February_3#Years_and_decades_in_medieval_Norway of interest to this wikiproject. Tim! (talk) 18:07, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Category:Order of Saint Olav has been proposed for deletion. See Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2018 May 9 for the discussion. —David Eppstein (talk) 00:52, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

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In the article Kingdom of Norway (1814) the flag has been changed back to a version that is not correct. The lion has too many elements based on fantasy and does not correspond to the picture it's based on. This file, No. 1 in the gallery, should not be used in any articles.

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  No. 1: Not correct. Should not be used.
• 
  No. 2: Based on document of the official design.
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  No. 3: Based on the preserved flag from Fredriksten festning.

No. 2 and 3 - both corresponds to historical sources. (I'm the creator of No. 3.)

--F Lunden (talk) 09:35, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Terrorism in Norway page lists both terror plots and terrorist attack in one chart. I think it would be less confusing if we had two charts. One for terrorist plots and one for terrorist attacks. Eshaparvathi (talk) 14:37, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

I would like to inform you that an an RFC has been opened to discuss what should be done with the stubs of Norwegian mountains. If any interested editors would like to chime in, please make your way to the RFC now. --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 01:10, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

An RfC on moving the year from the end to the start of article titles (e.g. South African general election, 2019 to 2019 South African general election) has been reopened for further comment, including on whether a bot could be used move the articles if it closed in favour of the change: Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (government and legislation)#Proposed change to election/referendum naming format. Cheers, Number 57 15:38, 20 October 2018 (UTC)

Editors in this WikiProject may be interested in the featured quality source review RFC that has been ongoing. It would change the featured article candidate process (FAC) so that source reviews would need to occur prior to any other reviews for FAC. Your comments are appreciated. --IznoRepeat (talk) 21:50, 11 November 2018 (UTC)

FYI

 – Pointer to relevant discussion elsewhere.

Please see: Talk:Kildin Sami orthography#Requested move 21 December 2018 – multi-page RM primarily about diacritics in an endonym.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  19:22, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

maria by leigh

Maria is a painting that has a dark history In 1703 a women named maria painted a picture she named it after herself and people believe that she even mixed her own blood in it now maria kept this painting in her attic as she didn't want her husband to know about it but years later in 1724 she passed away and somebody else moved in they discovered the painting and hanged it on the wall they just thought it was a normal painting that they'd put in the the attic but little did they know its secrets. About a week after the painting was hanged on the wall straight away the home owners noticed its strange behaviour the home owners claim they would hear weird noises coming from the painting and also the painting would stare right at them and and they even claimed that the women's eyes in the painting would move of course this creeped them out and they took it down and threw it out but a few days later it was on the wall and the creepy thing is when the home owners asked each other if they'd hanged it back up they all said no of course a few days later they asked the local church to come and sage there house and when they did the spirit was the spirit of maria and that shed killed her husbands sister and it turns out the blood on the painting thought to be hers was her husbands sisters of course the home owners were shocked and put the painting back in the attic. The painting was discovered in 1966 in the attic of the home and put in a museum its not known what museum but at least its safe now put people who apparently dare to look at the painting for too long will die or will have bad luck. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.9.236.224 (talk) 20:14, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

An item related to this article has been nominated to appear on the Main Page in the "In the news" section. You can visit the nomination to take part in the discussion. Editors are encouraged to update the article with information obtained from reliable news sources to include recent events. Notice date: 19 April 2019. Please remove this template when the nomination process has concluded, replacing it with Template:ITN talk if appropriate.

Guro Fjellanger needs improvement before appearing at ITN. I could use help of someone that has a grasp of the languages used by the sources. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 03:13, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

From Wikipedia:Naming conventions (geographic names) (section permalink) is a link to Wikipedia:WikiProject Norway#Naming. That section does not exist.

Looking at the history, it was removed in Special:Diff/267539604/270634715, a major and apparently undiscussed edit that moved some contents to transcluded subpages. Should we restore some of this or transclude some of it from a new subpage? Sam Sailor 08:47, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi all,

would please a Norwegian-speaking person verifiy if this edit ([13]) that the IP pushes is correct? Thank You(KIENGIR (talk) 17:27, 13 May 2019 (UTC))

Not correct IMHO. You can use "fører" in compound, non-political Norwegian words like "hundefører", just like you would use "Hundeführer" in German. You can also use Norwegian "fører" for the leader of a fascist or national socialist movement. The German and Norwegian words seem mostly equivalent to me. Regards, Kjetil_r 20:07, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

I agree with Kjetil_r. The noun fører can be applied in many circumstances, which makes it translatable in to a variety of different English words like leader, guide and driver. The latter is perhaps the first meaning that springs to mind for a Norwegian. It is for me at least, but I can't think of any word more suited for translating Hitler's title. Ters (talk) 20:33, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Kjetil r (talk · contribs) states it correctly. According to the NAOB there are at least 6 different usages of the word in Norwegian: https://www.naob.no/ordbok/f%C3%B8rer Nsaa (talk) 06:33, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

I need some help filling in the domestic television ratings for the Norwegian TV show Occupied. I managed to find some sources, but reached a dead end on others. Jay Coop · Talk · Contributions 09:21, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

I have been looking through the Norwegian news archive but unable to find any. Season 2 wasn't available on linear TV before May 2018, so you probably won't find any ratings for that season anywhere. --torstein (talk) 21:10, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks anyway for the help. I greatly appreciate it. Jay Coop · Talk · Contributions 21:35, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

An editor contested a machine translation of a quote from a Norwegian website which I inserted into an article. Is there anyone here who can offer a proper translation? PCHS-NJROTC ^{(Messages)Have a blessed day.} 16:07, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

Done in Special:Diff/902960867/902971929. Best, Sam Sailor 17:08, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello -- Could anyone here help out with Draft:Forlagshuset Vigmostad Bjørke, which I recently saved from G13 deletion; the company has an article on the Norwegian encyclopedia [14] as well as on Nynorsk [15], but I am having trouble finding English-language free online sources. Thanks, Espresso Addict (talk) 06:08, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Please help add additional information and citations to this article. Bearian (talk) 22:43, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

This would normally something I would bring up at WP:RSN but since it deals with Norwegian, I thought better to come here first. Can anyone tell me if the following references would meet the guidelines for WP:RSes? Using this to determine notability for AfC submission (and future submissions). --CNMall41 (talk) 06:38, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

• dn.no
• dagsavisen.no
• dagbladet.no
• f-b.no

The first three are Norwegian newspapers (full names: Dagens Næringsliv, Dagsavisen, and Dagbladet, respectively), whereas the last hyperlink is merely the Norwegian-language version of Facebook. Accordingly, only the first three references can be used as regular/valid references in articles. Best regards, Annelingua (talk) 16:38, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Fredriksstad Blad is actually the local newspaper of the city Fredrikstad. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:2121:2C0:9FF5:C028:1C50:7BD4:7D9 (talk) 02:05, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:04, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

All four references listed above are described in their own WP pages: Dagens Næringsliv, Dagsavisen, Dagbladet, and Fredriksstad Blad. They are all well established newspapers founded in the period 1869–1889. Best regards, KV (talk) 18:27, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Is Fremskrittspartiet (still) populist? A discussion and an RfC is open at Talk:Progress_Party_(Norway) Heptor (talk) 16:22, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

I started it, and it could use some norsk language sources if anyone is still around. Peregrine Fisher (talk) 16:53, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Hjem til jul ; it's looks ok --M77 BOOTS (talk) 18:08, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

What google planning and the team to the Sandboxed_process? Rodel Cayanan (talk) 12:07, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

I have just uploaded this album of 28 watercolours of Norway, painted in 1884. I hope you can make use of them. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:23, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Can someone check the page and make corrections? It was recently changed and the infobox is broken now. Pelmeen10 (talk) 20:23, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello, this article is almost ready to go, but having some issues with a few remaining terms, which I've highlighted. Can anyone take a quick look to correct them? Thanks! Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney (talk) 19:01, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

The RSN post Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Reliability of Norway Heritage has application to this project and I invite members to comment there. I have posted a similar message at the ships wikiproject as well. Feel free to post this other places you feel it could go. Thanks, Ghinga7 (talk) 20:25, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

As I understand, the literal translation would be the Norwegian Pilots' Union; while a more precise rendering would be Norwegian Airline Pilots' Union. However, in their own literature they refer to themselves as The Cockpit Association of Norway. Their membership in the international pilots' federation is shown as Norwegian Air Line Pilots Association. My sense would be to go with the most precise and closest to the Norwegian − which would be Norwegian Airline Pilots' Union...but comments appreciated. Thank you,--Goldsztajn (talk) 07:11, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

I would be most grateful if an English-Norwegian bi-lingual editor could take a look at the article Owen Wilkes and expand the coverage of his Norwegian experiences based on the Norwegian sources. There are many sources in English which all appear to use suspiciously similar phrasing. There are a number of apparently relevant sources in Wilkes/Gleditsch_trial. Stuartyeates (talk) 10:28, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Couldn't find much information about the man himself, apart from a lengthy obituary in Klassekampen. Whilst an interesting read, it was written by Nils Petter Gleditsch, so it's hardly NPOV. decltype (talk) 08:33, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

I am trying to create an article for the band Fieh. While there are a few English sources I could use, I was hoping that someone could help be find some good Norwegian sources with sig cov of the band. I also have some potential sources that I could use over at the draft page I created. If anyone here has a subscription for Dagens Næringsliv, Dagsavisen, or Aftenposten, that would be super helpful. Thanks in advance!  Bait30  ^{Talk 2 me pls?} 04:20, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

"Number of minorities (1st and 2nd generation) in Drammen by country of origin".

That section title seems to be poor English, but that text can probably be understood by those who are familiar with the term "Første- og andregenerasjons invandrer".

"Immigrants and Norwegian-born to immigrant parents", might be a better title for the section. Suggestions for improving the title of the section? (More than one article needs a rework in regard to the subject of this thread.) Regards! 89.8.150.91 (talk) 21:44, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

I have nominated Battle of Svolder for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Hog Farm _Bacon 02:11, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi WP:NORWAY, I recently created an article for Hjelmsgate 3 in Oslo and I was wondering how best to describe it (never visited it in the flesh). I started off calling Hjelmsgate a cultural centre but on reflection if its run by the Stiftelsen Arbeidskollektivet then I suppose it is self-managed. An example of a cultural centre would (I think) be something like Vega Scene, a self-managed social centre would be Hausmania. A less specific term would be social centre (which on EN redirects to community centre). Thanks for any help! Mujinga (talk) 14:45, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Wikipedia:NO. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 12#Wikipedia:NO until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Seventyfiveyears (talk) 22:02, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Category:Norwegian Lutheran priests has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. TSventon (talk) 16:11, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

After successfully completing our Asia and Africa contests over the past six months, we now welcome contributions to our Women in Europe contest which runs for three separate months from April to June 2021. To qualify for the contest, articles have to contain at least 160 words or 1,000 characters of running text and participants need to be members of Women in Red. We look forward to lots of new biographies of women from Norway.--Ipigott (talk) 06:34, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Dear Norway Project: There is a Norway-related article that was recently nominated for deletion but survived. It could use improvements from someone knowledgeable on Norwegian language and folklore. See Kråkevisa. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 01:00, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Help is needed please with citations for Kongeparken, particularly the sections 'History, 'Bears theme' and 'Visitors'. I was unable to find English-language sources. Meticulo (talk) 00:24, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

I went to add a couple details to this article and it turned into a decent expansion. Could somebody more knowledgeable than me take a look and see how it looks? Thanks 92.24.246.11 (talk) 20:31, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

:Thank you for your work, 92.24.246.11.VikingDrummer (talk) 07:39, 28 April 2021 (UTC)sock puppet of banned user - GizzyCatBella🍁 02:10, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

@VikingDrummer: no worries, it was interesting actually. 92.24.246.11 (talk) 15:13, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi all. I am currently working on expanding Deaths in 1995 by adding and sourcing all articles in Category:1995 deaths. I managed to slightly expand Inger Marie Andersen by using the Historical Dictionary of Scandinavian Cinema. However, I can't find a source in English that verifies her date of death. Deaths in 1995 is organized by the day people die, and I would really like to add her to the list. If anyone is able to locate a source (perhaps in Norwegian?) it would be helpful. Please ping me if you are able to locate something useful. Thank you.4meter4 (talk) 13:55, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello. I'm helping some friends in my Trøndelag neighbourhood and county council administration in their project Bergkunstreisen (The petroglyph trail). I've promised to expand some Wikipedia articles in norwegian about 10-12 rock art sites, and also help them find similar volunteers in en:wp and de:wp who could be of assistance in creating the same articles in english and german. Either by translating my articles from no:wp, or writing new, independent texts.

So far, articles no:Bølareinen and no:Helleristningene i Kvennavika are finished at GA-level in norwegian, and available for translation. The next article will be no:Helleristningene på Evenhus within some weeks.

My friends have also told me that they have some history books (mostly in norwegian) available as gifts to those who are willing to help, if that might be of interest. Bw --Orland (talk) 22:30, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

I am willing to look into expanding the article on Rock_carvings_at_Vingen as well as expanding and translating the article on nn:Ausevika during the Christmas holidays. --Pilum (talk) 12:45, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Pilum. That would probably be interesting and valueable. However, the project Bergkunstreisen is fixed to 14 destinations / rock art sites in Trøndelag. The three mentioned above, and then some of those mentioned in Rock carvings in Central Norway: Bardal, Hell, Leirfall, Stykket. Bw, --Orland (talk) 15:38, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi. Please see this AfD for a Norwegian Olympian. Thanks. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 17:21, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Can somebody please look at the Talk page for List of municipality numbers of Norway and move this list per the suggestion to eg. List of municipality numbers of Norway (1837–2017)? I had to revert a massive edit today, and I can understand that a current list is desirable. But the historical 1947 numbering is still important in a lot of contexts, and I'd hate to see it go from Wikipedia. Besides, the new county structure is still not settled, and may be broken up again.

leifbk (talk) 14:23, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi. Please see this discussion. Thanks. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 20:14, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

per WP:APPNOTE - "The talk page or noticeboard of one or more WikiProjects or other Wikipedia collaborations which may have interest in the topic under discussion"

At the beginning of April, WikiProject Women in Red is launching a three-month translation contest focused on increasing our coverage of women's biographies. As the Norwegian version of Wikipedia is one of the more popular sources for translation, members of WikiProject Norway may be interested in participating.--Ipigott (talk) 09:14, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

Could someone from this WikiProject can check the date format being used throughout List of honours of the Norwegian royal family by country? Multiple date formats are being used and some of them are not really OK per WP:BADDATE. I'm not sure if Norway uses a particular format, but that would be the one to use throughout the article per MOS:DATEUNIFY. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:45, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi! I've managed to establish notability for the film 5 Lies, but it looks like there's more out there about the movie. If not reviews, then at least coverage of the director apparently having a melt down when his film wasn't a hit. I'm kind of butchering the translations here since I'm using Google Translate - can someone help search for sources and flesh out the article? I'm trying to do what I can, but I feel like I'm not getting all that much with a US Google search. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 14:00, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like

• John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14. (John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.)

and turns it into something like

• John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.

It will work on a variety of links, including those from ((cite web)), ((cite journal)) and ((doi)).

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

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 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 May 3#Former constituencies, which is within the scope of this WikiProject. — DaxServer (t · m · c) 10:30, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Bergen Line has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. --Whiteguru (talk) 07:13, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Tromsø Airport, Langnes#Requested move 10 May 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 15:00, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Fridtjof Nansen Land was a significant part of the unsuccessful 1931-1933 attempt by the Kingdom of Norway to annex parts of Greenland. I'm not a capable wiki editor and don't know how to acceptably rectify this but I couldn't help noticing that it is not linked to in any way by the article for it's namesake: Fridtjof Nansen. 2A02:C7D:B612:AD00:E83C:C796:568:B426 (talk) 23:24, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Trondheim Airport, Værnes#Requested move 10 May 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 19:44, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Says "HRS was established to work for a more well-functioning multi-ethnic society" - but it spreads anti-Muslim propaganda according to one academic source, and has been described as a right-wing government sponsored think tank.[16]. See talk page for more sources. Doug Weller talk 16:32, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

The article Raudebergnuten has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Wholly unsourced for 11.76 years.

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Please comment at Talk:Earl#Split article? to give your opinion on whether text on the Scandinavian jarl should be moved to Jarl (title), which currently redirects to Earl. Thanks. Ltwin (talk) 01:55, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

Most articles about Norwegian railway transport (in English) are extremely outdated as most still state that Vy (formerly NSB) operates services, whereas in fact only about half are operated by Vy nowadays. The other large numbers of services are operated by SJ Nord (aka SJ Norge) and the Go-Ahead group in specific areas accordingly. Please can someone who knows what's going on update this, as I don't have the huge time commitment to do it right now. Thanks! FlyingScotsman72 (talk) 03:47, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

The words below the picture of the penguin Nils Olav in the featured pictures section says the "Kings Guard" instead of the "King's Guard". I don't know how to fix this. May someone fix it? Tlonedyr (talk) 21:42, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:GMB Class 71#Requested move 13 December 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. echidnaLives - talk - edits 03:12, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

I am not very satisfied with the norwegian folklore content on Wikipedia. I'm of norwegian descent and would like to learn more about the legends, culture and such of norway, and folklore is a good way to learn about any culture, really. who agrees? Tarulliah (talk) 04:48, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

Hi - I laughed when I saw it's listed under paranormal. The phenomenon appears to be explained rationally now - and it's directly linked to geology of the area and mining. So the article could use some new classification. I haven't updated anything yet - I don't really know the subject. There's a link to the research on the talk page. Comments, edits welcome. Feel free to ping. Thelisteninghand (talk) 22:27, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

I was hoping that there might be some sort of news coverage that isn't a primary source like this, a blog, or Bitter Winter (which is considered unreliable on the perennial sources list), which seems to be what comes up when I search for this in English. But apparently this is something that Norway's supreme court has ruled on (specifically that they have the right to practice disfellowshipping) but that they are also losing their funding as a registered religious community. This seems like the sort of thing that should have some sort of independant and reliable coverage in Norweigan, so I was hoping maybe someone could verify that for me? Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 06:29, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

I guess the supreme court issue might be this. There is some more about losing funding and possibly getting deregistered here. All in Norwegian, but you might get something out of it with a translation service if you can't read that. Some words might be hard to translate, though. Ters (talk) 18:55, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Bigbang (Norwegian band)#Requested move 16 February 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. 2pou (talk) 21:37, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

The order of the monuments is not well understood and, so as not to risk making a mistake, I don't intend to change the order of the monuments (for information: I left the order unchanged; I only corrected the wikilinks and explained the order better, but it is the same order: Oslo. JackkBrown (talk) 21:36, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

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Hi, may I get reassessment/feedback on the articles Eurohound and Greyster? Thank you! Annwfwn (talk) 13:17, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

We have List of municipalities of Norway and List of municipality numbers of Norway, which would seem to be ripe for merging, but apparently not, per this discussion. Can the latter page be merged into List of former municipalities of Norway instead? Something really should be done. The current situation is… suboptimal. - dcljr (talk) 16:56, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

Strictly speaking, it can't be merged into List of municipalities of Norway because it contains historical municipalities, and it can't be merged into List of former municipalities of Norway because it contains non-historical municipalities (although not all). It could be split into a list of current municipality numbers and a list of historical municipality numbers, and then have each of those merges into respective list of municipalities, but that would be suboptimal if you don't know if the number you want to look up is historical or not.

What exactly is the problem with List of municipality numbers of Norway? The fact that it is not updated? That people end up there instead of List of municipalities of Norway when wanting to look up numbers that are definitely current and therefore having to dig through a bigger list? (At the moment, people are more likely to have historical numbers as numbers are being changed quite frequently.) Something else? It is not like Wikipedia has no room. Ters (talk) 17:41, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

At the very least, the list should be updated, which someone tried to do last year and got reverted. See Talk:List of municipality numbers of Norway#Why not updated?, which I just created, and comment there, if you wish. - dcljr (talk) 01:13, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

The list should not be updated, because it is a valuable tool for historical research in Norway. I have proposed a renaming to eg. "List of municipality numbers of Norway (1837–2017)" and then anyone should be welcome to keep another updated and regularly maintained list of current municipalities. But please let us keep the list as it is. The 1947 division is the "gold standard" for historical purposes.

13:04, 10 May 2023 (UTC) leifbk (talk) 13:04, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Like I said, this can be discussed on that other talk page. Your objection is not a valid one, as I explain in my reply there. - dcljr (talk) 00:27, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

how do i join? Sebbog13 (talk) 22:53, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:WikiProject Norway#Active members. (But it might be a little easier to work with the subpage Wikipedia:WikiProject Norway/Members.) - dcljr (talk) 03:26, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

10 year old referencing error needs attention. Thanks Martin of Sheffield (talk) 16:57, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

What is the error? - dcljr (talk) 00:27, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

There are two references to Norwegian Public Roads Administration 1989, currently numbers 40 (p.48) and 43 (p.49). However there is no citation corresponding to these references. There are citations for Norwegian Public Roads Administration dated 2010, 2009 and 2006 but nothing for 1989. I can't speak Norwegian, so there is no point in me chasing them up, I hope that someone in Project Norway can however. Thanks, Martin of Sheffield (talk) 09:47, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

so the links are dead? cant you just like link an archive from the wayback machine? Sebbog13 (talk) 14:17, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

It's not so much an error as an inadequate citation. It's given in "Harvard style", with no URL or title, only the name of the organization and year. (I suppose it's possible this info exists in a previous revision of the article — I haven't checked.) As Martin alluded to, there are links to resources from the same agency for other years, all of which are at their website, vegvesen.no (a live link to which can be found in the article Norwegian Public Roads Administration). Presumably this requires someone who knows Norwegian to search that website for the information in the article that is cited with this reference (currently refs 40 and 43). - dcljr (talk) 03:04, 19 June 2023 (UTC)