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Why is his name also translated into the Latin azeri script? He is not from the republic of Azerbaijan and as such the translation is irrelevant. I will thus be removing it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.208.154.118 (talk) 15:59, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Aydin Aghdashloo is a very important Iranian artist and cultural figure and this page is in no way promotional. I'm not sure how this bot works and what parts of the article should be re-written but I have tried to follow Wikipedia rules in creating this page. I will however try to re-write the page very soon to follow the guidelines.
Aydin Aghdashloo has been involved in Iranian culture - before and after the revolution - for 40 years. He's been building and managing museums, running art biennials, publishing extensive researches on Iranian art history and cinema and teaching in universities. He belongs to a generation of Iranian intellectuals which although effected by the Iranian revolution, stayed in Iran and worked to keep Iranian culture from deminishing.
Because this discussion is very subjective and I am describing to a bot why Aydin Aghdashloo should remain on Wikipedia, I request some more specific feedback to what should be changed in this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Takinson (talk • contribs) 13:59, April 27, 2010
Thanks Brad. I will continue to replace all the personal sources with well established news sources. However, most of the material is in Iranian media which is in Persian but I will be able to find enough sources to remove all unreliable ones. Also, I'm going to add a quote here from Edward Lucie-Smith about Aghdashloo, I'm not sure how to actually put the quote there as this is in a book and I couldn't find this part online in a reliable source to link to, I'll research this more in Wikipedia guidelines to see how it's done. Lucie-Smith writes in his book "Art Today" about Aghdashloo. I also added the book in the page references:
"... post-modern use of pre-existing forms can also be found in the work of Iranian male artists, notably in that of Aydin Aghdashloo (b.1940), who is also a distinguished commentator on art .
Aghdasloo's ironic subversion of a revered western original finds parallels in contemporary Chinese art, for example in work by the sculptor Sui Jianguo (b. 1956), who teaches at the Central Academy in Beijing. Sui’s series “Creases in Clothes” features iconic Greek and Renaissance classical statues, such as the “Discobolus of Myron”, clad in flapping Mao suits . In both cases the artists concerned adopt a critical, distancing, deliberately ironic attitude when confronted with revered western traditions. Or, at least, when confronted with the idea that non-western cultures must inevitably follow in the footsteps of the West."
-Edward Lucie-Smith, Author of "Art Today" (1995) (Takinson (talk) 14:43, 27 April 2010 (UTC))
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A lot of the article uses gregorian dating, but then out of nowhere there are a few places where it uses the Persian Jalali dating system, or the Hirji islamic calendar-- which is unclear and confusing to most readers of the article, and probably against wikipedia policy for consistent dating systems. Let's not make readers figure out 3 dating systems just to understand the chronology of this guy's life.
Examples:
"In the first years of 1360s Jalali, he researched and wrote teleplays of the two films "History of Writing" and "Traditional Workshops" for Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting"
"His book Evident and Hidden is describing a long interview with him in which Aghdashloo inspects and criticizes the cultural and artistic events of the 1340s Jalali in Iran."
"His writings have also had an important role in publicizing old artists like Mirza Reza Kalhor, Lotf-Ali Shirazi, and calligraphers and painters of the 12th and 13th Hijri centuries."
" Later, he exhibited a series of his books and handwriting, which included 140 books and pieces from fourth to fourteenth Hijri centuries, at Negarestan Museum and sold all of his series to the museum."
"In 1983, he helped the production of the series "Towards Simurgh" about the history of Iranian painting since the beginning until the fourteenth Hijri century by IRIB"
If someone already familiar with the Jalali and Hirji calendars can convert these dates to gregorian for the article that would be great-- there is really no good reason for suddenly switching to another calendar in the wikipedia. 68.175.141.8 (talk) 15:14, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
The consensus is to remove unsourced and promotional information.
Cunard (talk) 23:02, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
The article includes far too many PoV and unsubstantiated claims for an artist that according to article has held only "two individual exhibitions in Iran". Some Examples: ·His two series Termination Memories and Years of Fire and Snow are considered part of ** the most important series ** of modern Iranian art ·His art works are known for showing the thought of gradual death and doom and also recreating** remarkable classic works in a modern and surreal form **. ·Aghdashloo is considered one of ** the most famous painting masters** for the third generation modern Iranian painters. · he has *hundreds of writings* The other sections need serious revisions.01:58, 21 November 2017 (UTC)~
Response II Unfortunately and editor restored the article to its previous version. That's sad! 04:56, 22 November 2017 (UTC)~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:569:73A1:9C00:E58D:E7DE:AA58:8049 (talk)
Ahmadi. Our Painter Aydin Aghdashloo.Which our more astute editors will recognize as not remotely a valid reference. Additionally, the titles of these references suggest that the sources being alluded to are probably WP:PRIMARY and maybe not reliable for our verification purposes, meaning that sourcing sufficient to pass WP:GNG or WP:NARTIST may be lacking here. The three references that do contain enough content to track down the source being referred to may or may not consist of the requisite amount of coverage to pass minimal notability standards, but I'd suggest that the two BBC persian articles (the only two we have immediate access to or even ability to find) probably do not suffice in themselves. Now, from what is here, I strongly suspect this man probably could pass GNG, had we access to additional proper references, so I'm not trying to suggest AfD as the next stop, but clearly a lot of work needs to be done here if this article is going to be preserved, and the removal of the glorifying language is just the first change that needs to take place. Snow let's rap 04:19, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
Some allegations are being added to the page that are based on a couple of tweets. These allegations aren't verifiable. Also, the sexual misconduct allegation isn't proved and is only an allegation at this point. It should stay away from the opening paragraph. CameliaMTF (talk) 15:31, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
There are legitimate allegations by women who have remained unnamed covered by a NYT journalist and the allegations have been mentioned in other publications. They are worth mentioning. It does appear users such as CameliaMTF (from the edit history) are deeply invested in watering down these very serious allegations against Aydin Aghdashloo has been central to Iran’s #MeToo movement. TruthTalk2020 (talk) 13:20, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
The "brought ridicule upon himself" line was pasted straight from a Iranwire news article and was cited as such. We can remove or edit that line, but your removal of the entire new additions which came with citations is suspect in itself.
Hasty edits and editing battles have made this article a mess. There are many issue but just one example: there is an accusation mentioning a tweet but citing an article. I followed the article and found the tweet that's referenced. Turns our that tweet is actually in turn citing an Instagram account of a totally different person and that account has been banned for online bullying. Not a great source. Also why are the allegations under the "Works" section and have a subsection of "Bibliography"? There are loads of other issues... 2A00:A040:186:CD70:491E:547C:8623:FABC (talk) 18:25, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
I have been following the development of this news story and the current state of Aydin Aghadshloo's page looks very suspicious in trying to inflate the story in a subjective light. I have checked Farnaz Fassihi's tweet which quotes an online personality known for his conspiratorial theories about a variety of artists in Persian, which has been taken down. I have not come across any of this online personality's allegations about other public figures appearing on their Wikipedia pages, so why is it here? It is being used to state more than one woman (Sara Omatali has a claim about sexual misconduct 14 years ago, denied by Aydin Aghdashloo) have come forward with claims. I have been unable to find any other sources with this claim, including BBC Persian. I am wondering why there is such an effort to inflate an already significant issue. Admin's attention would be beneficial in resolving the activities on this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Veritas-Beyond (talk • contribs) 16:33, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
I have noticed that the direct translation for Sara Omatali's tweets is actually "tried to kiss" and not "forcibly". What I'm seeing in this page is an effort to present as fact what are only allegations. There is one account of sexual misconduct against Aydin Aghdashloo which is worth mentioning in this page, although I am not sure why on the opening paragraph? That seems to be against Wikipedia's common practice. If you look at Woody Allen's page, the very serious case of sexual abuse is only referred to in the relevant section. Same with Joe Biden. The most unusual part of this is the reference to Farnaz Fassihi's tweet as fact. She has clearly referenced a secondary source, who is known among Iranians as Afshin Parvaresh, a man with various claims against famous artists without ever presenting evidence. His last accusation against Aghdashloo was a claim that he has faked the identity of his parents which was quickly disproved by people sharing Aghdashloo's real family photos. This to me looks like in immediate need for escalation in resolving the issues and cleaning up hearsay content in support of verifiable facts. These are serious allegations that should not be misused in a salacious way. Other filmmakers and artists who have been named in this movement have not been subject to such biased scrutiny on their pages. I also couldn't find the statement by Aghdashloo's students so I'm linking it here. [3]
From the history of this page its evident Aghdashloo's son Takin (known as Takinson on Wikipedia) is behind the inception of this page, now well known for his defence of his father's accusations of sexual assault by referencing his father's royal lineage (twitter.com/takinson). It appears users such as CameliaMTF have been systematically attempting to edit out the recent accusations against Aghdashloo, who is one of the central figures in the #MeToo movement that reignited itself in Iran during August 2020. This should be a flag to the Wikipedia community to watch this page. Recent updates from IranWire were updated to the story by myself.
Can this user explain the reason behind their assertion? It seems that this page is playing out like a court room for proving an online allegation, instead of relaying objective facts. Why is it relevant what his son has said about him? Why isn't it relevant to include the statement of support signed by his students, some famous women on it too. And more importantly, what is the significance of this artist's entire page covered with the details of this developing story? Curious for opinions on this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Veritas-Beyond (talk • contribs) 16:44, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
Aydin Aghdashloo’s Sexual misconduct allegations part of his page has a source that has been removed from Instagram( Afshin Parvaresh Instagram page was removed due to publishing these allegation without any reliable sources) Also there are several updates that are missing from his page including his recent works, many letters of support that he has received from his students, and his fellow artists. How can the page be unlocked so can be edited accordingly? A living artist page should not be locked as it has to be updated. No other artist had the controversy mentioned in the first paragraph of his bio specially when there is no proof. I hope page can unlocked so the correction can be done Thank you Mahshidboz (talk) 14:39, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
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Based on the arguments made above by myself and multiple other users please:
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Aydin Aghdashloo (Persian: آیدین آغداشلو; born 30 October 1940) is an Iranian painter, graphist, writer, film critic.[1] Aghdashloo was decorated with the Chevalier (Knight) award, by the French government for his civil achievements.[2] Agdashloo's name has been amongst those of several famous men to appear in allegations of sexual abuse in Iran during the August 2020 social media wave for the Iranian #MeToo movement.[3][4]
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Aydin Aghdashloo (Persian: آیدین آغداشلو; born 30 October 1940) is an Iranian painter, graphist, writer, film critic.[5] Aghdashloo was decorated with the Chevalier (Knight) award, by the French government for his civil achievements.[2]
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As of August 22, 2020, there are 22 allegations of sexual misconducts against Aghdashloo, as reported by New York Times journalist Farnaz Fassihi on her Twitter account.[6] All accounts except that of Sara Omatali remain anonymous. Fahime Khezr Heidari, a journalist based in Washington DC, said Omatali was “one of the most ethical people” she knew and added that she had heard “dozen” similar cases against Aghdashloo.[7] Laleh Sabouri , a former Iranian film and television actress tweeted that she was a student of Aghdashloo's for two years in the early 90s and though she was never subjected to Aghdashloo's sexual misconducts, yet she could confirm that sexual misconducts appeared to be a natural part of Aghdashloo's life.[8][9]
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The New York Times journalist Farnaz Fassihi has tweeted about other unverified allegations against Aghdashloo with links to a now removed page on Instagram belonging to a controversial Iranian conspiracy theorist. Laleh Sabouri , a former Iranian film and television actress tweeted that she was a student of Aghdashloo's for two years in the early 90s and though she was never subjected to Aghdashloo's sexual misconduct, yet she believes the allegation against Aghdashloo.[10][11] On September 8, 2020, more than 150 former students of Aghdashloo released a joint statement defending their teacher stating "As those who attended courses offered by Aydin Aghdashloo over many decades in a safe, professional, and constructive environment based on solidarity and growth, we have found him an inspiring artist, a caring teacher, a master, a companion, a confidant, a friend, a meticulous expert, and a critical thinker. More than anything, he has taught us how to live."[12] — Preceding unsigned comment added by CameliaMTF (talk • contribs) 07:37, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
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