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replace compaign with campaign cheers 27.33.102.15 (talk) 01:21, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
...Ian, the problem with something like http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=grbcpb&id=I12415 is that it's simply been uploaded by "Gary" (nfi). That doesn't meet the standards of WP:RELIABLE. Definitely worth having a look to see if you can find the same information in a more reliable form. Hchc2009 (talk) 18:03, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
I am baffled by this. I cannot find illegitimate children of reigning monarchs on any other page, why is this one included? Henry VIII had other illegitimate children, why are they not included in the list? Mrspy (talk) 22:03, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
Henry VIII's mistresses and out-of-wedlock children are definitely noteworthy. I've added a section (drawn from 2 small existing articles) on the mistresses of Henry VIII and the children he may have fathered. I moved Henry Fitzroy form the list of children he had with his wives to this new section. As mentioned, illegitimate children of monarchs (acknowledged & alleged) are often mentioned in articles, they are however, most always mentioned separately.Drdpw (talk) 19:04, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Under "Succession" it says "Edward VI (1547-1553). Since Edward was then only nine years old," This clearly includes a typo, since the dates indicate he only lived to be 6 years old. The article on Edward VI himself states his dates as (12 October 1537 – 6 July 1553) . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sasmasterman (talk • contribs) 17:07, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
There's a small typo in the page:
With the chance for a annulment lost and England's place in Europe forfeit, Wolsey bore the blame;
This should be either 'an annulment' or simply:
With the chance for annulment lost and England's place in Europe forfeit, Wolsey bore the blame;
Seewolves (talk) 12:57, 10 March 2015 (UTC)SW 10 March 2015
Hi. The National Library of Wales have just released two versions of a rare image of Henry VIII as a child to Wikicommons. The image is believed by experts to depict Henry VIII weeping following the death of his mother in 1503. His father and sisters also appear in the image. Please consider adding the image to the article. Jason.nlw (talk) 09:21, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
File:Vaux_Passional._Henry_VIII_(f.9).jpg
File:Vaux_Passional_(f.9)._Henry_VIII_(Cropped).jpg
This page has no information on the death of Henry the 8th. Unless he didn't die? CarolynVines (talk) 14:49, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
I agree with USER:Span - this is a weak reference, and it should go! HammerFilmFan (talk) 12:29, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
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82.219.32.93 (talk) 10:26, 25 September 2015 (UTC) PLZ LET ME EDIT PAGE
In the info box it states that Henry's marriage to Catherine Howard was annulled. It should say 'executed'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Snowberry7877 (talk • contribs) 22:07, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
Not done - Henry's marriage to Catherine Howard was not ended by her execution, which was the case with Anne Boleyn only, but by the marriage being ruled "invalid" (the term used at her main article). Since subsequent marriages here are labeled as ended by "annulment", then the term isn't restricted to papal annulments. Dhtwiki (talk) 03:05, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
Is he really "Henry" or "Heinrich"?119.92.93.84 (talk) 11:11, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
under the name of Henry VIII's wife Catherine Parr it says as follows:
(m. 1543; his death 1547)
It should say as follows:
(m. 1543; her death 1547)
The reason it should be changed is because Catherine Parr is a female and not a male.
Thank you for your time and consideration of this edit request Sincerely,
Fox685Fox685 (talk) 23:48, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
New research on the impact of repeated concussions on Henry's behaviour.[1]86.2.12.245 (talk) 10:11, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
References
In the section on Ireland the text reads:
However, upon the death of the 8th Earl of Kildare, governor of Ireland, fractional Irish politics combined with a more ambitious Henry to cause trouble.
I don't understand "fractional" here. It's probably meant to be either "factional" or "fractious" (though not much difference between those two). If there is such a thing as fractional politics, it should be explained. JamesMLane t c 22:27, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
The Issue section lists three Henrys, Duke of Cornwall born to Catherine of Aragon, but the Henry, Duke of Cornwall page only lists two. Catherine's page doesn't give a name for the third, stillborn boy. So should the list on this page be corrected? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.191.204.101 (talk) 21:56, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
This is one of the worst articles, very hard to navigate and find basic info. I still havent find who was his first wife whose marriage annulement ie divorce caused break with the Pope. This reads like a boring history text, no easy parsing for info, not even the name of that woman and link in the intro. Division of article is completely arbitrary. Plus article is edit protected. HORRIBLE. HOW IS THIS A GOOD ARTICLE? Wiki used to be good for easy lookup but this is just useles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.189.146.188 (talk) 23:58, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
Ok there is an infobox, but it should really be in the intro ALSO. Plus, you cant NOT put a name and link to his first wife in the first sentence in chapter about annullment. IT MUST BE there. What is frustrating is that you put link to some other Catherine in the beginning of that chapter, VERY CONFUSING AND FRUSTRATING. Such poor writing. This site is supposed to be EASY to find information on. YOU EDIT-PROTECTED THIS and disallow easy fix. WIKIPEDIA IS THE WORST!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.189.146.188 (talk) 00:03, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
Ok I will try to fix it. BTW people should not remove comments from talk pages Kiliopa (talk) 00:40, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
Thanks!
It's been the practice on Wikipedia to not number monarchs. Let's stop including the line "second monarch of the Tudor dynasty", please. GoodDay (talk) 14:45, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
For example: We don't have "fourth monarch of the Windsor dynasty" in the intro at Elizabeth II, or "sixth monarch of the Hannover dynasty" in the intro at Victoria. -- GoodDay (talk) 14:52, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
As ever, we should follow the practice used in reliable, high-quality secondary sources; if they mention this as a prominent fact, so should we - if not, we shouldn't. Hchc2009 (talk) 21:03, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
Can't edit as article is protected. But under Henry's issue, there are three Henry, Duke of Cornwalls listed. The linked page only discusses the first two, not the third. Can someone edit and then remove this? Thank you. 208.124.109.66 (talk) 23:45, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
In the third paragraph of the indroductory section there is a sentence that reads:
"He was an extravagant spender and used the proceeds from the Dissolution of the Monasteries and acts of the Reformation Parliament to convert money into royal revenue that was formerly paid to Rome."
Can we just switch it around to:
"He was an extravagant spender and used the proceeds from the Dissolution of the Monasteries and acts of the Reformation Parliament to convert money that was formerly paid to Rome into royal revenue."
The first one is so clunky, and I went to change it quickly but I got shut down. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.14.109.111 (talk) 15:45, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
Cite this article as well: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2685729368.40.122.133 (talk) 06:16, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
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Henry VIII of England was actually buried on 16 February 1547 2A02:C7D:C601:5F00:EC74:938E:E7F4:E887 (talk) 15:13, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
Twelve years before in 1535 a Franciscan friar named William Peyto (or Peto, Petow) (died 1558 or 1559), had preached before the King at Greenwich Palace "that God's judgements were ready to fall upon his head and that dogs would lick his blood, as they had done to Ahab",[145] whose infamy rests upon 1 Kings 16:33: "And Ahab did more to provoke the Lord God of Israel to anger than all the kings of Israel that were before him".[146] The prophecy was said to have been fulfilled during this night at Syon, when some "corrupted matter of a bloody colour"[147] fell from the coffin to the floor. There is nowhere mentioned why this is important to note here. Some monk said something sometimes, and something different happened later - is all this part of common knowldge, is it interesting, is it important?2003:E4:ABC1:400:A027:95B8:EF92:63B1 (talk) 22:08, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
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the song about his wives are divorce beheaded died divorce beheaded survived 94.207.224.50 (talk) 08:35, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
The section on Catherine Howard states - Catherine too was beheaded on 13 February 1542
whereas the section on Anne Boleyn states - At 8 am on 19 May 1536, Anne, age 36, was executed on Tower Green.
Would it not also be worth adding "was executed via beheading" or just "beheaded on Tower Green"
I had to look up externally how she was executed and would be simple to include here :) Might even be worth adding some additional details such as these from this webpage:-
As a concession to her former position, she was not beheaded by a clumsy axe. A skilled swordsman was brought over from France. She was assured that there would be little pain; she replied, with typical spirit, ‘I have heard that the executioner is very good. And I have a little neck.’
https://englishhistory.net/tudor/monarchs/anne-boleyn/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.37.212.252 (talk) 01:34, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
I think the famous portrait of Henry sitting down and holding a ham leg in his left hand and a goblet in his right should be in this article. I can't believe it's not here, though I can't find it anywhere online for some reason. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:6000:FD22:7600:FCA3:11A1:E49D:B28E (talk) 19:58, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
Well this article as most descriptions of Henry's reign has his six wives and succession, as the general theme.
My impression is that the six wives is just a side theme better enough for English tabloids and less the basic content of the reign. Not even what is described as consequences of the marriage affairs are really consequences of something else.
Henry is certainly a hot subject and we can read from Wiki “This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Henry VIII of England article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.” I think my subject is rather about the quality of the article (that I think should balance on other facts than the marriage affaires to understand the subject better) than a debate over Henry’s deeds (that contains very biased different parties and could continue forever).
I am neither English nor continental but as a Swede where the protestant reformation to a large extent is accepted triggered mainly to politics and governmental finances as the main political thread, rather than the religious issues. I think an outside view could be interesting to read?
Another factor is a teenage king not meant to be king taking over a general intrigue from his father among nations in Europe where much (of alliance hopping and huge unestablished resources like the continent of America etc never later seen) is possible that is unthinkable in the future centuries, and after the IWW intro completely unthinkable in today’s people’s minds. Family lives of 16th century monarchs aren’t much different in general to Henry’s, and rather not much different up to now (tougher is the future royal family affairs I guess). The big exception was that a Catholic king Henry VIII did not get any permission he wanted (and every king up to the got) from the Pope, because the political enemies of Henry (Charles)controlled the Pope and his Spanish wife, the queen. Here in Wiki, we must think of, we have an article to be read by present readers.
I think the article is good in the beginning describing Henrys French ambitions and that in the end Charles takes it all and left Henry empty handed, with just the bills of costs in his hands.
But I think most important in the story were Henry’s ambition to get the Pope (whoever Pope there were) to support Henry’s interests in the general intrigue. And, the red thread after 1517 is that in the end, the Pope backed Charles (Austria/Spain) and not Henry or France. Then everything after that are in general consequences of the bad papal relations. And definitely not the other way around. Decency were hardly a 16th-century Pope's main interests?
In short politically Henry had to drop the Pope as the Scandinavian kings did on exactly the same basis. The Pope did not deliver anything of value and was very expensive, as the Catholic Church was political fuzz with no local perspective and a huge fortune to take over (in England biasedly expressed to cover the costs the Pope have generated shortly before). In Sweden from the parliament 1600 the church was a solid state authority sorted in like the army, the post office and the taxman in the governmental administration. The wealth of the church integrated in the state and the clergy civil servants of the government. In fact the main channel of communication between the sovereign and the subjects.
Thing is that 1517 was the turn point and the queen was of no use, rather a huge security risk uncontained. Like sleeping with the enemy not capable of delivering political or private pleasure. She as the Pope had to go of the same reason.
I think Anne Boleyn was a thrilling piece after the turn both politically and privately. What I understand she participated in the protestant reformation of England far more than usually told. And most likely after some time became politically uncontrollable. In Henry’s mind converting from a resource to a big problem and had to go. The other wives were as interesting as most kings marriage affairs in general these upon to recently if even now.
That the Anglican church is not Lutheran (a huge royal free ticket to the basic political protestant constitutional formalities) is due to what Henry did to please the Pope before 1517 in order not losing face, and in general politics of the late 16th and early 17th centuries. And certainly a lot has to do with the turnout of the religious issues of the late 16th century monarchs in England as in Scandinavia. In England the late 16th century race of control over America became a huge business issue in competition with the Spaniards and the Dutch. Where the Amsterdam business joined the English crown in the glorious revolution later, and ended up on top both in London and New York under the English/Dutch sovereign. USA would speak Spanish if the reformation had failed in England, because that was the intension of the Pope (under Charles control). The Popes intensions were just not compatible with English business and political ambitions.
And to turn the wheels back I think it is important to see the Christianity created in Constantinople in the 4th century as pure politics rather than religion. The new way of controlling a huge empire politically where the creed is rather a creed to the emperor than to Christ. And confess to Christ meant the impossibility to reject the empire and the emperor. And reject the creed the opposite. Meant that breaking out of Byzantine Empire meant the impossibility to accept its creed. Islam is made to really reject the creed. But split between Rome and Constantinople is made by smaller means, details of the creed so small we can hardly understand what the fuzz is, is of huge political importance. The same story comes again in the early 16th century’s reformations. And in Scandinavia the basic reformation starts even long time before the creed issues, which only confirms what is already done. In Sweden and Denmark 50 years before the reformation, by cutting the band to the Pope authority, still being Catholic and need Luther to be released from a political limbo of constitutional formalities.
Luther came as a gift from heaven for the northern European kings and Henry were stuck in his past and had to improvise and invent the wheel himself (or rather by Cromwell & Co). And as a Byzantine consequence Catholics became enemies of the state, and has not to do with faith and only politics. Same things, the Polish are Catholics because the Russians are Orthodox and the Germans, Swedes and Danes are Lutherans. The Irish are Catholics because the English are Anglican of only political reasons, stating "we are not British", else there would not be any Ireland? The Jews are Jewish because else there wouldn’t be a Jewish nation, has nothing to do with personal faith? The nation behaves like the nation or is no nation?
This red line is no fun, if you are as most in England presently unpolitical light religious Anglican or an English Catholic, is quite understandable. But that makes it also much harder to tell the Henry VIII story. And is really the story of Henry VIIIs six wives something today’s reader really gets anything out of, do anyone understand what the fuzz was all about, the common six wives story sound so remarkably unproportional??
And if the Pope would have been on Henrys side, he would not have got a divorce no problem, or any Fitz would be king after Henry with papal blessing. But a Papal Henry would be as colourful as Henry VII (also important for England) and someone else would be the father of modern England. I think Henry VIII is, and Elisabeth is its mother. In Sweden Gustaf and in Denmark Frederik are celebrated as the father of modern state, them distinguished it from the total political fuzz of the mediaeval times. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zzalpha (talk • contribs) 11:45, 5 November 2017 (UTC) --Zzalpha (talk) 20:46, 5 November 2017 (UTC) // sorry forgot to sign
Hello, what calendar are his dates? example, did he die on what we call Jan 28 or on what we call Feb 9?--207.107.113.161 (talk) 15:15, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
This language in the lead is improper as he earned his excommunication. 'Despite his dissolution of the monasteries he remained a believer in core Catholic teachings' would be in the right direction, although entirely too ironic, but the irony comes about from talking about him as a religious person, and one whom has "Catholic" religion (the Anglican use of the term "catholic" which is unusual form), when rather he's instituted anti-Catholicism everywhere. The problem of not stating him a villain is that the result is promoting him a religious visionary. -Inowen (talk) 01:37, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_English_Royalty#Reign_dates Jhood1 (talk) 17:16, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
Here are some sources for Henry VIII reign beginning 22 April 1509:
I would propose changed the first line of the article to either "22 April 1509" or "1509". The latter seems clearer. Jhood1 (talk) 20:58, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
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The current construction in the lede section betrays a misunderstanding of the nature of canonical penalties. Here is my suggested rewrite: "He appointed himself the Supreme Head of the Church of England and dissolved convents and monasteries, which resulted in his excommunication. Henry remained a believer in core Catholic theological teachings." 2600:8800:1880:91E:5604:A6FF:FE38:4B26 (talk) 04:10, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
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Now I may not have been clear previously, because I contradicted myself whilst coming up to speed on the facts, but I will restate my case more clearly. "Henry remained a believer in core Catholic theological teachings." This statement is unsourced, failing WP:V. It is, on its face, a wholly different assertion from "Ultimately, Henry remained committed to an idiosyncratic mixture of Catholicism and Protestantism; the reactionary mood which had gained ground following the fall of Cromwell had neither eliminated his Protestant streak nor been overcome by it.". I would be happy if you would quote Elton, p. 301, because it would be very interesting if the page contained information which supported both what is asserted in the lede, as well as what is asserted in the body, especially because they essentially contradict each other. The statement in the body does not correlate excommunication with Henry's beliefs, so why are they conflated sans WP:RS in the lede? Furthermore, let us return to my initial objection: WP:SYNTH: "Despite X, Henry believed Y." Y does not follow from X and there is no source that says it does, because it is simply not possible. Therefore we cannot state it in Wikipedia's voice.
The template incorrectly describes Henry as Anglican. The first English monarch to be described as Anglican is Edward VI, according to all histories, plus Wikipedia's own page on Anglicanism. Henry was born a Roman Catholic, but broke with Rome. He continued to regard himself, and is described generally, as "Catholic" or English Catholic after that break - part of the Catholic communion but not under the authority of Rome. He continued to practice the tenets of Catholicism, attended Mass and the sacraments, and to his dying day regarded himself as a Catholic, just not a Roman Catholic. He opposed continental Protestantism, which made the position of his last wife, Catherine Parr, delicate as she, unlike him, was a believer in Protestantism.
It was Edward VI who broke completely with Catholicism and adopted Anglicanism, with different theological beliefs to Catholicism, and a move from the Catholic understanding of the Eucharist to a reformed Protestant one. So it is factually incorrect to call Henry VIII an Anglican after he left Roman Catholicism. It contradicts all histories, and other pages on Wikipedia, all of which say that Henry broke from Roman Catholicism but it was Edward who broke entirely from Catholicism and created an English form of Protestantism called Anglicanism. 213.233.148.16 (talk) 01:49, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
Came across this on Unreal Facts. Stgeorges-windsor.org dosnt have the source hosted online anymore but it was archived(source 3). I feel like the damage to his coffin and explanations deserve mentioning, especially the one about his body 'exploding' because unreal facts linked source for this is gone and not everyone knows about the web archive so they might look to wikipedia if they wanna fact check this story.
Maybe add something like this on to the end of physical decline and death At some point in time Henry VIII's coffin became badly damaged. Alfred Young Nutt (illustration of tomb on the right) observed in 1888 that the coffin was damaged by “the action of internal forces outward” with his body exploding while it sat in the vault from the build up of gasses \maybe also link to exploding whale\ creating significant pressure. Reports also exist of his coffin having exploded with "putrid matter" leaking from it while sitting overnight after his funeral in Syon House waiting for transport in the mourning to his place of burial and that stray dogs came and licked up the mess. Less grotesque theories however state the coffin could have been damaged when the trestle supporting it collapsed, when Charles I's coffin was "hastily" added to the tomb in 1649, or from the coffin simply breaking due to being inadequate for the kings large size at his death. Technocolor (talk) 19:02, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
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Hi, you've got some facts on his wifeoos wrong 194.81.160.122 (talk) 10:38, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
Hi there! I noticed that under the heading "Marriage to Anne Boleyn," the third paragraph beginning with "The King and queen were not pleased with married life." could use additional citation. Several of the sentences can appear as biased against Anne Boleyn without evidence supporting the statements WP:Neutral.--Halostock97 (talk) 18:22, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
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i feel like some of this isn't right please make sure and edit it please thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahsimons24 (talk • contribs) 18:46, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
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These are given as Henry's last words in the "decline and death" section. The citation is to page 687 in a paper that examines a document that listed Henry's possessions but does not seem to include any account of his death. The cited paper runs over pages 11-29 of its volume; it does not have a page 687. Perhaps the editor meant Richard Davey (1909) instead of Jonathan Davies (2005)? Davey's book [3] includes the last words (along with some speculation about what the dying Henry saw) but does not provide a source. Many sources trace back to Agnes Strickland. Strickland [4] in turn attributes it to Nicholas Harpsfield but does not endorse his account, nor identify which book by Harpsfield contains it. (I haven't found one myself.)
Request: Remove the claimed last words due to defective sourcing. Change "Henry VIII" in the following sentence to "He". 24.7.14.87 (talk) 08:08, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
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I spotted an error, his eldest son, is Edward the IV, but it says on the Wikipedia Edward VI, I just thought I would get in touch. So Edward the VI needs to be changed to Edward IV Datobviousguy (talk) 11:49, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
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Was Henry bald at the end of his life - as none appears from his headgear? 82.44.143.26 (talk) 18:41, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
Reading the body of the article it says during Henry VIII early years he was inducted into the Order of the Bath. The reference 'Order of the Bath' links to a Wiki article that says the Order was founded in 1725, well after Henry's passing.
Digitalflack (talk) 18:49, 22 May 2019 (UTC) J Flack, aka DigitalFlack
He was subsequently appointed Earl Marshal of England and Lord Lieutenant of Ireland at age three, and was inducted into the Order of the Bath soon after.It's probably confusing to say that Henry was inducted into the order, which was indeed constituted under George I, rather than say he was made a "Knight of the Bath", which is how those made so by the earlier ceremony were referred to, according to that order's article. Dhtwiki (talk) 21:31, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
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Henry Vii Had six wives and was very extremely chubby ĦẽŊŊṛ
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Shidehpouria (talk) 19:26, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
hello, i was wandering if i could put some info on about the dissolution of the monasteries
Wouldn't it be better to move the section on government and finances up to be before the section on his physical decline and death? Iegbuni1 (talk) 14:11, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Henry VIII had a Stillborn Son in January 8th, 1515 with Catherine of Aragon and had another illegitimate son named Richard Blewett (Edwards) in March 25th, 1525 with his Mistress Agnes Beaupenny Blewett. Jimmyy68 (talk) 18:43, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
' he became severely obese'. Could we change the wording to maybe say he was overweight?-ThanksOoh Saad (talk) 08:57, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
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Henry VIII (28 June 1491 – 28 January 1547) was King of England from 1509 until his death. This oil-on-panel portrait was painted by Hans Holbein the Younger c. 1537, depicting the king in a near-frontal pose similar to that used by the artist in a number of other portraits. It is a markedly linear picture without background distractions; Henry gazes into the distance, with his head, hands and general demeanour imbuing his personality with a sense of solidity and strength. The painting is in the collection of the Thyssen-Bornemisza Museum in Madrid, Spain. In 1536, Henry suffered a leg injury in a jousting accident. The wound festered chronically for the remainder of his life and became ulcerated, thus preventing him from maintaining the level of physical activity he had previously enjoyed. He became grossly obese, and this hastened his early death; the view that he suffered from syphilis has been dismissed by most historians. Painting credit: Hans Holbein the Younger
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Henry VIII of England → Henry VIII – This has been discussed before at Talk:Henry_VIII_of_England/Archive_1#Move_proposal, but the discussion went nowhere. I am reviving it because the concise form of this title makes it clear who this is talking about and the Henry VIII readers are most likely looking for. Interstellarity (talk) 16:28, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
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Anne of Cleves section of Henry VIII pages, says Thomas Cromwell was Earl of Essex at time of proposing Anne of Cleves as Henry VIII’s 4th wife, but he became Earl of Essex a few months after Henry and Anne were married on Jan 6 1540. Cromwell became Earl of Essex in April 1540. According to Thomas Cromwell’s Wikipedia page it was April 18, but I haven’t been able to verify the exact date in April. FSly (talk) 06:56, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
I removed the reference to Cromwell as Earl of Essex during the Cleves match, and I left the source in my edit note. As FSly notes, Cromwell did not become Earl of Essex until April 1540. See Diarmaid MacCulloch, Thomas Cromwell, chapter 22, page 520. Serogers02 (talk) 21:02, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
Henry did have a lot of people beheaded during his reign, but did he have anyone burned at the stake? PatGallacher (talk) 11:24, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
As of the date of this post, the article contained this text: QUOTE: After a little debate, Henry became the new Duke of Cornwall in October 1502, and the new Prince of Wales and Earl of Chester in February 1503.UNQUOTE I looked at the article on the Duke of Cornwall but it is not there explained why Henry (later VIII) didn't become Duke of Cornwall INSTANTLY when his older brother Arthur died. At the very moment Arthur died, Henry was the Heir Apparent (but was not Prince of Wales instantly, not until his father so created him later on, as that requires the Monarch's action). And the current Monarch when Henry (later VIII) was Heir Apparent was his parent (not his grandparent or aunt or uncle, or anything else). When you are the Heir Apparent (to the crown) and are the son of the Monarch whose Heir Apparent you are, you are, per se, the Duke of Cornwall, are you not? This "after a little debate" jazz isn't referred to in the article on Duke of Cornwall. Can someone please quote a little of the explanation from the footnoted source? I don't doubt that there's some REASON to say that Henry wasn't acknowledged to be Duke of Cornwall instantly as soon as Arthur died, but I think the reason needs to be brought in. Also, when the debate ENDED, what was the result of the debate? I find it hard to believe that the result of the debate would be that Henry BECAME Duke of Cornwall in October 1502, even as much as I entertain the possibility that the DEBATE about whether he was Duke of Cornwall ended in October 1502 and the result of the debate was ACKNOWLEDGING that he'd ALREADY been Duke of Cornwall for some time, since the instant when his older brother Arthur died.2603:7000:9906:A91C:1C64:8308:33BC:E2D6 (talk) 01:37, 15 May 2021 (UTC)Christopher L. Simpson
Who is free to say that his first marriage was annulled? There should be an indicator there for discussion to let the reader decide. Dbdtw (talk) 05:22, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
What's the general consensus regarding illegitimate children and their ranking in the issues order? On other articles, like that of Richard III's, they put illegitimate children below the legitimate children, or they separate that into a section of their own? Yourlocallordandsavior (talk) 21:39, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
So Henry never got an annulment cuz if you watch oversimplified’s YT video on him it clearly states he wasn’t gonna divorce Anne 2007DodgeRam (talk) 23:08, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
It might be worth adding that the annulment on 17 May was based on the prior liaison between Henry and Anne's sister Mary, which in canon law meant that Henry's marriage to Anne had always been void (noted at p.454 of the Scarisbrick biography 1971 Penguin edition, I don't have either of the two editions listed in the article biography so cannot insert a reference)
Sbishop (talk) 08:53, 8 June 2021 (UTC)Sbishop
Anne and Henry didn’t get an annulment. Go online and search. 2007DodgeRam (talk) 01:18, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
I am sorry but google's knowledge panel says Jan. 17, 1533-May 19, 1536 (talk) 23:04, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
Sbishop (talk) 06:53, 20 June 2021 (UTC)Sbishop
What makes you think they got one? 2007DodgeRam (talk) 21:47, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
Sbishop (talk) 07:03, 25 June 2021 (UTC)Sbishop
is there any chance to change some spouses from "died" to "executed"? as he was the one who had them executed? except his third wife, as she did die in childbirth 116.110.42.18 (talk) 06:43, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
For a son of Henry VIII to have lived 52 days, given Henry's track record of unsuccessfully having children, I was wondering is it necessary to include this child in the infobox? Is he deserving/significant enough of his own spot in the infobox of Henry's children, alongside his other children, of whom lived into adulthood or were historically important? Yourlocallordandsavior (talk) 04:24, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
All the references in this article loop back to the article itself instead of the actual references. Suspect someone made an error during an edit. 166.205.124.25 (talk) 06:30, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
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Change:
"Henry is best known for his six marriages, including his efforts to have his first marriage (to Catherine of Aragon) annulled."
to:
"Henry is best known for his six marriages, and for his efforts to have his first marriage (to Catherine of Aragon) annulled."
Reason: the use of the word "including" is illogical. 2A00:23C8:7B08:6A00:8D73:3898:891A:3BB7 (talk) 00:01, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
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can you give me edit powers Oliver frbhfrbfu (talk) 11:52, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
There has been some discussion about Henry VIII (Henry Tudor?) having been a composer. How prolific was he? I heard a composition authored by Henry VIII a couple of years ago on a local classical radio station.
Is there an article anywhere in Wikipedia about Henry VIII as a composer? How many compositions did he write? Is there enough of his output to warrant a separate article on his music, or a subsection here? Erzahler (talk) 09:19, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
(Reply to now archived talkpoint)
To the question "did Henry VIII have people burned at the stake?", I would say there were burnings of Protestant heretics during his reign but their punishments were laid down in Acts of Parliament predating the King's life (passed during reign of Henry IV, to deal with the Lollards) so I would beware ascribing without evidence personal involvement of Henry VIII in their punishment. (It was a different matter with regard to those he deemed traitors against himself, who ended up being beheaded when convicted of treason after trial.)Cloptonson (talk) 16:13, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
I was shocked upon reading this "good article", which appears to present Henry as a victim of Anne Boleyn's "failure to give him a son" as a matter of fact. This attitude of misogyny and victim-blaming is dangerously similar to that which presumably prompted Henry to fabricate a legal case against his wife and 5 other men to ensure their deaths. A "good article" distinguishes plain facts from balanced discussion thereof, such as Henry's emotional response and my own accusations of misogyny.
I suggest that, at the very least, the wording be changed to avoid suggesting that not bearing a son is somehow a failure in some sort of perversely imagined duty as a woman. This attitude remains prevalent and even dominant in some societies and, since it directly contradicts the human rights of women, surely ought not be perpetuated or encouraged on a platform as widely read as Wikipedia.
Nah, itu baru betul... (talk) 02:42, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
Although I was surprised to read this, upon looking over the section which deals with the marriage of Anne and Henry I am inclined to agree with the comment above, since the text refers in two places to Anne's 'failure' to give him a son. Now of course, that was how Henry perceived it; but the current wording does suggest that it was indeed Anne who had failed rather than it being essentially a matter of chance. I would support a change of wording in two places so that the article simply refers to the couple not having a son, with the wording regarding Henry's attitude left intact. Sbishop (talk) 08:01, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
It’s a troll. Richard DeMelo (talk) 18:49, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
In a section focused on presenting facts about his family & bloodline, the inclusion of David Starkey's quote appears unnecessary, biased and out of place. I suggest removing the quote altogether and focus on the grid. 2601:44:407:3386:C54C:D17D:7D90:92B6 (talk) 02:34, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
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