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In my experience at IIMA, it's always been IIMA or IIM-A, never IIM,A. The IIMs are different institutes, with different curriculi, different ethos and different teaching/management styles. They have distinct boards as well. IIM,A suggests the Ahmedabad branch of one organization called IIM. That's just not the case, the only real common factor between the IIMs is the entrance examination (JEE), besides the directors' meetings (Ad-hoc) and some linked alumnii and special interest groups (non-official).
If I remember correctly, the page is taken AS-IS from the news release after my batch's recruitment process, which is also recycled in various promotional material. It makes too many unsubstantiated and opinion statements (For ex., you cannot show a trend in people rejecting jobs abroad, or a trend in people staying outside the recruitment process to start schools/consultancies/etc. based on 2 years' data. C'mon, even the communications department would've kicked my ass if I'd tried to draw a trend based on 2 years' data in the Written Analysis & Communication (WAC) paper, let alone the marketing or eco profs! This is just not right.
This page should be about the campus, history & culture. There is a lot that should be added, think WAC runs, SIGs & Societies etc. etc. I won't just preach, I'll do it over the weekend as and when time permits.
p.s. - I am an alumnii of IIM Ahmedabad, batch of 2005
Correction to your note above: The common entrance test for IIMs is CAT and not 'JEE' as you have mentioned. JEE is for IITs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.200.225.156 (talk) 18:06, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
... and not "Indian Institute of Management, Ahmedabad". The word "Ahmedabad" forms part of the name, and there is no comma that separates it from "Indian Institute of Management".
Is it Infosys Banagalore & Infosys Chennai or Infosys, Banagalore & Infosys, Chennai? The IIM is estd by the govt of India and each location gets its management and freedom to operate within a certain guidelines. But each location is an IIM. If you look at the official address, it says:
IIM, Prabandh Nagar, Off. Sitapur Road, Lucknow-226 013.
Therefore, the name is IIM & you are free to put or not put commas when you add the location name to identify the excact institute. The rules of English grammar tend to agree with Mr.Dole and say that you should put a comma.
I beg to differ with the above statement. For both Indian Institute of Management Ahmedabad and Indian Institute of Management Bangalore, the location is a part of the name of the institute, so there should not be a comma after the 'Management' (I'm not sure how it is for IIM Lucknow). The analogy with Infosys is not a good one, because in that case, Bangalore or Chennai denotes the place, and is not a part of the name of the company.
The standard notations are "Indian Institute of Management Ahmedabad", "IIM Ahmedabad" or "IIMA". Refer IIMA website - this is the protocol followed there. The comma is not used. Vastrapur (talk) 05:03, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
Much of this article is promotional rather than Neutral point of view. Paul foord 09:26, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
I agree. Moreover, statistics about placements (though fancy) should not reflect in an encyclopedia. They are often inflated and details are not openly available to outsiders. Sbohra 10:01, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
MR Foord what u exactly mean when you use the word "promotional". Would mentioning Everest as highest peak in the world also tantamount to promotion???--194.221.74.7 16:48, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
I also agree that the article's style sounds promotional. -Mardus 03:30, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Absolutely on the NPOV. Words like `excellent`, `awe-inspiring` and so on aren't objective, neutral ways of describing this University. I'll start fixing this soon, unless people have a clear explanation as to how this fits the NPOV criteria. 61.126.88.206 (talk) 06:59, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
I moved the entrance image upwards, so that it would be easier to discern section edit links.
-Mardus 03:33, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Where are the citations? Why does the page 'admire' IIMA? Facts only please. This looks like a publicity page of IIMA - good school it could be but this is an encyclopedia page that looks like being 'used'. Effectively the page is tarnishing reputation of the school. This is not a page on IIM-server, its' a community-page where you have responsibility of not advertising. People editing this page should understand seriousness of it and edit the page asap to make it encyclopedic. Check this to see what I mean : Harvard Business School
This page should not be speedy deleted because... --Foojzi (talk) 10:36, 22 April 2011 (UTC) It is not advertisement. In fact it merely represents facts & figures from numerous reputed surveys & agencies.
I am in the process of a major rework of the article, and am going to remove almost all unreferenced claims. Kindly provide reliable sources to support statements mentioned within the article. Some sources are reliably provided. However, it's important that you confirm that the sources satisfy our guidelines too. Please write to me on my talk page for any clarifications or assistance. Kind regards. Wifione ....... Leave a message 16:50, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
I have removed huge amounts of material apparently copy pasted from the Internet. It'll take me around a couple of days to check whether the material on the net was copied from our site, or vice versa. Till then, kindly use reliable sources to add your own material. Wifione ....... Leave a message 16:58, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
I propose to merge List of Indian Institute of Management Ahmedabad Alumni into Indian Institute of Management Ahmedabad. The list is quite small. It contains six members, only two of which have Wikipedia articles, and could easily be incorporated into the existing article. --Muhandes (talk) 19:18, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
I removed the following from the list of Alumni. The reason is that per WP:NLIST one needs to demonstrate notability for every entry. The sources provided are not enough to satisfy WP:BIO or WP:GNG. I don't see how enough material can be added to satisfy these requirements, so please write an article about them before adding them again.
--Muhandes (talk) 13:37, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
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Talk please. The present article gives UNDUE weightage and placement, so needs adjustment of content (cruft), and placement of the controversial "Plagiaraism" section to the stable (preferred) version. 2001:1640:5:0:0:0:3:BA (talk) 11:48, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
These issues would mean a quick fail at GAN, but I'm bringing it here to see if it can be fixed instead of being delisted. —SpacemanSpiff 18:00, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
Here's the link about PGP-ABM now known as PGP-FABM, the official site has not yet changed the name everywhere.Esperanza 1409 (talk) 22:22, 27 October 2015 (UTC) [1]
Based on the above assessment I'm delisting the article. —SpacemanSpiff 12:12, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Pedagogy : The teaching style in IIM Ahmedabad is mostly case study based, where cases from different sectors are collected and made to analyse by students. Students are given access to many case study from Harvard, Stanford and other coveted institutes. It fosters practical learning among students and gives them insights into real life experiences in the corporate world. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sravani95 (talk • contribs) 13:26, 6 March 2016
The section, at present, reads like an advertisement, and clearly needs editing to make it more encyclopedic in tone, style and structure. Ideally, it should focus on the nature of the event, the event's evolution, and the broad themes it covers.
Worryingly, it does not cite any sources at all. Unreferenced content is liable to be removed. Please add citations from reliable sources. Perhaps the following links could be used:
Shobhit102 | talk 09:52, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
It was proposed in this section that multiple pages be renamed and moved.
result: This is template ((subst:Requested move/end)) |
– As per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:CONCISE, similar to the case of Georgia Tech, recent move of Delhi University and RM of IITs Talk:Indian Institute of Technology Bombay#Requested move 23 October 2020. All the IIMs except for IIM Trichy (which will have a separate RM due to different use of its city name) are listed here. Note: this not a RM for moving Indian Institutes of Management to IIM as there are number of other institutes with that acronym and the use of IIM may not be understood worldwide for Indian Institutes of Management. However the use of the acronym IIM with the city name is the normal standard and perfectly makes it clear to anyone that its referring to a specific institute.
Indian Institute of Management Ahmedabad is the full name, but very rarely used. Even the official website [11] displays IIM Ahmedabad more prominently, and the official twitter account [12] is IIM Ahmedabad. The faculty, students, alumni, general populace and the media all either refer it to as IIM Ahmedabad or as IIM-A. The worldwide google trend for last 12 months [13] shows IIM Ahmedabad being searched 22 times more than Indian Institute of Management Ahmedabad. Just recent articles (within last few days) in all top media houses refer to as IIM Ahmedabad [14] [15] [16] IIM Calcutta google trend [17] shows IIM Calcutta being searched 16 times more than Indian Institute of Management Calcutta. Similar is the case with all other 17 IIMs. Roller26 (talk) 10:12, 25 October 2020 (UTC) —Relisted. P.I. Ellsworth ed. put'r there 22:45, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
institution you are naming is almost exclusively known only by including such terms and is widely used in that formand
if readers somewhat familiar with the subject are likely to only recognise the name by its acronym, then the acronym should be used as a title. The first case has been made in the nomination, that the specific institute is almost always referred by the acronym IIM and its city name, for eg IIM Ahmedabad, upto the level of official level - its website and twitter account. Only in extremely official cases, like degrees and ranking, is the full name used. The second case is readers. Nearly all Indian readers not fully familiar with IIMs hardly ever know its full name and only refer to specific institutes by the proposed RMs like IIM Ahmedabad, not even knowing that its not its full official name. I am curious as to know other readers will come across such a specific institute page (in most cases). The only possibilities I understand are readers already familiar with the specific institute in which case they are more likely to search something like "IIM Ahmedabad", through navigation box on Indian Institutes of Management or other specific IIM institute or through wikilink for Indian Institute of Management Ahmedabad or IIM Ahmedabad - in all cases they already understand the acronym IIM. I am also not asking for moving Indian Institutes of Management to IIM or IIMs (though every commonly used) due to the "precision and recognizability" reasoning and "strong preference for natural disambiguation", however there is no disambiguation required for specific institutes. And hopefully this points makes it clear that the requested RM is precise and recognizable enough to relevant readers. Roller26 (talk) 04:34, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
I am also not asking for moving Indian Institutes of Management to IIM or IIMs (though every commonly used) due to the "precision and recognizability" reasoning and "strong preference for natural disambiguation", however there is no disambiguation required for specific institutes. And hopefully this points makes it clear that the requested RM is precise and recognizable enough to relevant readers.. Also refer to my RM request and above reply to clarify the points that you raised here. That makes it abundantly clear that moving Indian Institute of Management Ahmedabad to IIM Ahmedabad is a better option for the relevant readers. Roller26 (talk) 09:08, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
makes it abundantly clear that moving Indian Institute of Management Ahmedabad to IIM Ahmedabad is a better option. I think that to someone unfamiliar with the higher-education system in India, "IIM Ahmedabad" is a confusing and meaningless term which does not convey the important facts: India and Management. "Indian Institute of Management Ahmedabad" convey them, and therefore, is more precise. (I would add that I don't appreciate the way IIT Bombay was moved without proper discussion and consensus here) --Muhandes (talk) 13:03, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
unfamiliar with the higher-education system in Indiaare arriving on these pages. As the pageviews doesn't disclose specific page views split by countries, I have no idea. However looking at the Google trends links [18] shows Indian readers searching these topics 25 times to 100 times more than the next country readers. Its more than likely that all of those readers too are aware of the abbreviation and those arriving on the pages are
readers already familiar with the specific institute in which case they are more likely to search something like "IIM Ahmedabad", through navigation box on Indian Institutes of Management or other specific IIM institute or through wikilink for Indian Institute of Management Ahmedabad or IIM Ahmedabad. Unless the random page has a very high probability of selecting these pages over the rest of pages, I believe that the concern
if readers somewhat familiar with the subject are likely to only recognize the name by its acronym, then the acronym should be used as a titleas articulated in MOS:ACROTITLE and having a WP:COMMONNAME used more than 22 times than the current title takes the precedence. For those extremely few readers arriving on the page without a proper idea will get the idea about the institute in literally its first 4 words. Also if you have concern with IIT Bombay title change and the consensus for other IITs, start another RM or take the existing RM to Move Review. Roller26 (talk) 13:57, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
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The Louis Kahn dormitories were proposed for demolition but then were saved after an international outcry: [19] Thriley (talk) 23:44, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
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