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Other pages indicate that Orissa is not part of Andhara Pradesh! Please resolve this inconsistency. 8.8.38.2 (talk) 16:01, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
The rituals of the Khonds are described in detail in James George Frazers The Golden Bough, e.g. in The Golden Bough. Abridged Edition in 1 volume (1922). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 0000ff (talk • contribs) 16:23, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
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There was a large expansion by an anon in 2016. They said they were a researcher at JNU, which might explain the rather better-than-normal phrasing found in this type of article. However, either they didn't understand how we cite things here or much of the information was in fact unsourced. The standard of phrasing could also be due to copy/pasting from the sources, which is common in India-related articles.
I'm unsure what to do about this because I cannot see the sources that are cited without incurring quite significant expense and thus cannot check anything. Can anyone else see them? - Sitush (talk) 06:44, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
the complete book that the I.P seems to be citing in the diff you give as an example. Haven't had time to skim it yet so can't see any direct copy and paste vios. Will check a bit more. Simon aka Irondome (talk) 15:07, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
This merge introduces major problems. For example, if we look at an early version of the article that was merged into this one, we see that it references this paper from 2004 or earlier. The presentation of that paper is odd in itself (different coloured text, numerous spelling errors) but, and this is worse, our then article misrepresented it. An example of the misrepresentation is our article said The Dongria family is often nuclear, although extended families are not unexceptional
, whereas the paper said he Dongria family is normally simple nuclear family consisting of father, mother and their
unmarried children. Extended families are rare ....
And our article says that the women are an equal asset
but the paper says The woman is more diligent and hard working in comparison to their male counterparts
and that Due to this reason girl child is
preferred over boy child
.
The version of the original article also says things like aesthetic romanticism
and proto-Australoid racial stock
, which may or may not have come from this web page - difficult to tell because the Wayback machine may not show the earliest version of the government website or that website may have plagiarised our article.
I think the paper itself is a reliable source but I am wary of the website transcription of it and also the government website. Regardless, we were misrepresenting the paper and I think we're going to have to start this article pretty much from scratch, using high-quality sources and insisting on full citations (see previous section). - Sitush (talk) 07:11, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
I don't think anyone denies that the Khonds have rebelled on several occasions, eg: 1835, 1836, 1882 and 1893. The reason why I recently removed a large chunk of information from this article related to the 1836 event was because (a) much of it appeared to be unsourced; (b) the sources that were used were of poor quality; (c) the tone and formatting etc was all wrong.
I've no objection to us mentioning the events, obviously, but there are policies and guidelines that we should follow. This is an issue that was discussed only a month ago but someone has again reinstated the material. - Sitush (talk) 11:40, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Are the Dongria Khonds a local tribe in one area of SW Odisha as stated in the Dangaria Kandha article, or are they spread over seven Indian states as stated here? Some form of merger is needed by someone who understands the wider ethnic picture: Noyster (talk), 11:56, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
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