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The main page was getting too cluttered with all the information regarding concerns and controversies, so I created this page to help alleviate the clutter.
Anyone know how a winter World Cup would affect the 2023 African Cup of Nations? Perfectamundo (talk) 18:34, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
This is a direct lie, there are hundreds of RSs on this issue. 79.74.4.64 (talk) 16:24, 20 October 2016 (UTC)
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As an addendum to the lgbtq stuff, apparently one night stands are also risky legal wise in Qatar. 41.58.192.133 (talk) 19:10, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
Isn't Palestine listed in FIFA site instead of Israel? Enkhsaihan2005 (talk) 15:50, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
Several cities in France are boycotting cup by not putting screens. 41.58.247.93 (talk) 19:53, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
Why don't we add the Danish journalist incident? 41.58.248.84 (talk) 22:18, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
What's the full story about the onelove armbands that caused so much 'fitna'? Bokoharamwatch (talk) 14:51, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
Germany covering their mouths vs Japan, Argentine reporter Pollo Alvarez was tried to be censored by Qatari officials and brawl and Falklands wars chant between Argentina and Mexico fans MatsLP (talk) 12:02, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
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It has been in news since opening ceremony. Fake fans were introduced in the stadium during opening ceremony. Number of spectators attending each match are manipulated, in some stadiums number of spectators is more than number of seats available. Female spectators are less. I don't see a topic on this. Anyone who is working on this article can consider adding a topic on this. Thank you. 103.162.159.198 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 03:57, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
I removed the self-published cartoon because it is unencyclopedic, inflammatory, and not an improvement to the article. إيان (talk) 19:18, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
Since Wikipedia is not censored, readers and editors may come across offensive images. Political cartoons, satirical drawings, and caricatures about people and events are allowed in accordance with the aforementioned WP policies. GenoV84 (talk) 20:18, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
As was noted in the first discussion on this talk page in 2015, this article will be in need of a split, and it really is difficult to navigate. May I suggest the following article titles on topics to split out:
With links to all in a sidebar template on the 2022 World Cup. Kingsif (talk) 22:48, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
I definitely agree with splitting the human rights and LGBT sections into their own articles and summarising each in a paragraph here. I think it's probably better to wait for the end of the tournament before deciding whether a separate article on incidents during the competition is necessary or whether that needs to be split further into match incidents x other. (Also, Netherlands vs Argentina (2022 FIFA World Cup) is likely to end up notable enough for its own article). – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 15:18, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
@Gilles Ouaniche: - Hi, I see you've (rather clumsily, but I suppose I can clean that up) reverted a recent split. As you can see, the split discussion here petered out in December but there was broad consensus to split the article for 1. length, 2. containing disruptive edits. The split article I created was based on the IP suggestion above for a 2022 FIFA World Cup hosting controversies article, so it wasn't unilateral. Either way, it was WP:BOLD and you have now reverted, so it is time to discuss: why do you disagree with this split?
Your edit reason at 2022 FIFA World Cup cites no discussion - which I suppose took place here instead of there - and not leaving a summary in place of every removed section, something which you could have added yourself or asked to happen. Your edit reason here says "this is the article for criticism": you assert that this is apparently the only article where criticism can be mentioned, despite that not being your unilateral decision to make (😉), nor it being true, as there has been consensus for splits and other split articles have existed since December (of course, as an account 1 month old you weren't to know). It also said "not an improvement", which would be a good reason to not split, but I'd like you to explain why as, obviously, I thought it was an improvement (see 1 and 2 above). Kingsif (talk) 23:00, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
I suggest adding a sub-section in this article about how model Ivana Knoll's skimpy World Cup outfits are insulting to Qatari locals, and how this relates to Qatar's greater woman's rights issues. Halaby18 (talk) 01:02, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
@Kingsif: All sources have mentioned "a group of Iranian football and sports personalities" and "accusing them of supplying". Please give your full reason for ignoring the main words of the sources. M1nhm (talk) 10:54, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
@Ronnnald7: In all the sources that have been available here, "a group of Iranian football and sports personalities" and "accusing them of supplying" have been mentioned. The source mentions some people. According to What Wikipedia is not "articles must be balanced to put entries, especially for current events, in a reasonable perspective, and represent a neutral point of view. Wikipedia is not a forum for unregulated free speech. Giving due weight and avoiding giving undue weight means articles should not give minority views or aspects as much of or as detailed a description as more widely held views or widely supported aspects. Generally, the views of tiny minorities should not be included at all, except perhaps in a "see also" to an article about those specific views. also, according to Neutral point of view Neutrality requires that mainspace articles and pages fairly represent all significant viewpoints that have been published by reliable sources, in proportion to the prominence of each viewpoint in the published, reliable sources". According to WP:DELAY and Neutral point of view, In the event of women entering the stadium, the whole event should be mentioned, not just a part of it at a specific time. You should have mentioned the news of women entering the stadium for a league match on 25 august 2022 and the reasons why women were not allowed to enter in March 2022. "Editors, while naturally having their own points of view, should strive in good faith to provide complete information and not to promote one particular point of view over another. As such, the neutral point of view does not mean the exclusion of certain points of view." Referring to Neutral point of view/FAQ, In assert Sosha Makani, Avoid stating opinions as facts. Usually, articles will contain information about the significant opinions that have been expressed about their subjects. However, these opinions should not be stated in Wikipedia's voice. Rather, they should be attributed in the text to particular sources.... The writing is such that it suggests murder while the source has used suspicious death. Avoid stating seriously contested assertions as facts. M1nhm (talk) 09:52, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
In the event of women entering the stadium, the whole event should be mentioned, not just a part of it at a specific time. You should have mentioned the news of women entering the stadium for a league match on 25 august 2022 and the reasons why women were not allowed to enter in March 2022.And refer to the DUE weight policy for this. However, you fail to recognise that mentioning every single related instance would be massively UNDUE as not all of those instances are relevant to the World Cup. You can see this by the fact the source that describes the controversy does not detail every single related instance. If you actually understood the policy you were quoting far too much of, you would recognise that bringing mention of everything is often unnecessary waffle. In an article only about women and football in Iran, you can talk about everything; this is not that article. A little critical thinking is required to judge appropriate coverage.
People have accused the game of being rigged. There’s the Ecuador-Qatar goal by Ecuador that was ruled out (That could go under controversial goals), the fact that the Mexican coach is from Argentina, Argentina having an easy group, the Netherlands-Argentina game having instances on both sides of dubious calls by the referee, and it being Messi and Ronaldo’s last World Cup. 2600:1012:B0B4:6526:B507:6DD3:6429:C922 (talk) 16:30, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
People have accused the game of being rigged. There’s the Ecuador-Qatar goal by Ecuador that was ruled out (That could go under controversial goals), the fact that the Mexican coach is from Argentina, Argentina having an easy group, the Netherlands-Argentina game having instances on both sides of dubious calls by the referee, and it being Messi and Ronaldo’s last World Cup. Cali Boy 09 (talk) 16:41, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
PeopleYou and your mates? Or is there a reliable source out there that says there is controversy of people thinking some matches have been rigged? Kingsif (talk) 17:05, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/fans-world-cup-rigged-qatar-28539918.amp Cali Boy 09 (talk) 02:42, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/world-cup/match-fixing-bribery-claim-rocks-opening-world-cup-game-between-qatar-and-ecuador/news-story/7841f4999328b7df79fd9cd7594691a0 Cali Boy 09 (talk) 02:42, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
You’re using fox and daily star as a source 😂hahaha good job humiliating yourself needlessly 🤦🏻♂️ hy[Ω]🐐 HyperionLEO (talk). 05:55, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
This article is written like someone has several personal minor complaints about the world cup. It is rambly — almost incoherent at times — and unnaturally jumps from point to point. This is embarrassing to have on Wikipedia, a website that at least feigns a neutral tone whenever possible. For example, the section about how it was controversial to hold the world cup around (but not even that close to) Christmas just belabours the points for far too long. Yes, state the problem there but move on to the facts and events that followed this decision; do not continue to talk about how holding the world cup during Christmastime is Anti-Christian. This article is riddled with points that are expounded on too little and too much. 120.21.11.35 (talk) 10:41, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
Lol, thanks for stating the obvious, Mr. Anonymous Critic.
As you should know, the event recently transpired, during which an ongoing slew of editors added a smorgasbord of informational tidbits. As Kingsif mentioned, folks were doing their best to keep it under control, but it was an uphill battle. Now that it's over, things should quiet down and the article could be reformed in a more coherent manner.
You here to help? Crescent77 (talk) 02:45, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: moved. Per the consistent titling mentioned below. Opposition was based upon a non-policy based argument, and a statement of WP:LISTNAME does not explain why the current title should be kept. (non-admin closure) The Night Watch (talk) 19:33, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
2022 FIFA World Cup controversies → List of 2022 FIFA World Cup controversies – Since this World Cup controversies article is the only one named this way, I felt it would be appropriate to rename it to be consistent with the other WC controversies articles. TotallyJimmyFallon(talk) 19:42, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
Oppose - I think we should keep it as it is. Rock Stone Gold Castle (talk) 11:48, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
That section needs expansion. Currently there are only complains of Argentinian players in that section, but there were many other complains during the tournament. Many other players criticized referees during the tournament: Pepe (Portugal) who said WC was fixed to Argentina (1), Bruno Fernandes (Portugal) (2), Hakimi (Morocco) who ranted to Infantino (3), Ferran Torres (Spain) (4), Modric (Croatia) (5), Maguire and Bellingham (England) (6)... Even about the match Argentina vs Netherlands, De Jong (Netherlands) said the referee "only whistled for Argentina" (7). Morocco fans shouted "FIFA MAFIA" (8). Lots of fans said WC is rigged (9) and signed a petition to repeat the final match (10). Jorges65 (talk) 15:52, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
Merge this with “Accusations of rigging” if possible Cali Boy 09 (talk) 02:38, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
While the various objections of the European media were mentioned, the defenses of the FIFA officials and the Qatari government were not mentioned. This article is highly biased. In the case of hospitality and accommodation, you have considered one source as a document in general. What does this mean??!! Verddieta (talk) 22:46, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
User Account "Gorebath" added a content in the category, named Grant Wahl's death. This included the sentence below which is not factually correct. The statement mentioned by the user is a speculation and looking targeted towards Qatar.
Statement: "Other journalists with Wahl at the time of his death have reported that he did not collapse but instead began fitting or experiencing a seizure, and called for help himself. They have criticised the Qatar Supreme Committee for not providing defibrillators in the stadium, as they had looked for one to try to help Wahl."
Many Outlets have confirmed the World Cup was rigged for Messi to win. Including confirmed bribe by Qataris on Ecudorian players
Confirmed Poison on French Players only a day before the World Cup
Maybe a section on how the World Cup was rigged for Messi to win would be good?
Pictures of Qatari Organisers hugging and kissing Messi?
Qatari Oragnisers saying "We want Messi to Win World Cup in Qatar"
Museum dedicated to Messi's Hotel Room?
All verified information by confirmed journalists
I don't know why the Right Wing journalists wants to suppress this information after Qatar bribed FIFA and suppressed Women and Gay Rights?
Is it because Messi's team is all White? Is that why it's okay to cover obvious corruption?
There should at least be a section on how it the entire tournament was rigged.
71.9.141.71 (talk) 08:58, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
Qatar is entirely in the Northern Hemisphere, and is even above the tropic of cancer. We should probably correct this Polishedrelish (talk) 04:44, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
Some IPs, which seem experienced, are using this misleading edit summary "Added new update in the section and corrected grammatical errors." when they are in fact removing content and replacing it with fluff about how great Qatar is. This is of course not the only way IPs and users are trying to censor the article, but it's been quite prevalent. Kingsif (talk) 00:45, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
There are discretionary sanctions for edits on Balkan politics. If this article becomes a battleground for Croatian-related ideology again, they may be levied. Kingsif (talk) 01:15, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
While it has not yet sparked edit wars, Iranian politics is also a sanction-able topic area. Kingsif (talk) 01:19, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
Stronger sanctions for content related to Palestine-Israel. WP:1RR applies to such content. Kingsif (talk) 01:19, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
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This administrator restored vandalism by mistake. As you can see from the original edits by this IP, he removed images, replaced Moroccan riots for "Morocco's win" (the controversy was that they rioted, not that they celebrated their victory in the game) and added a POV commentary on "Israeli apartheid and war crimes" which is not in the sources. Could somebody please fix that?Bargagepla (talk) 06:36, 7 March 2024 (UTC)