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Pentacostal Methodist Nikita the eternal (talk) 01:09, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
The New Eliakim section seems overdone. Firstly, I think it's weird that it's above the section on the "election, death, and resignation" of the pope, given its lower importance. Secondly, the whole section has only one citation not to the Bible. The citation is supposed to substantiate the claim that the Catholic church teaches that the pope is the new Eliakim, but goes to an apologetics blog that isn't run by the church (instead it's Catholic Answers (https://www.catholic.com/about), which is "an independent, lay-run apostolate... [that doesn't] ask for—nor receive—financial support from the Vatican, any diocese or bishops conference, or any other organization that is part of the institutional Catholic Church"). IMO, if it's to persist, it should be moved down the page and revamped with better sourcing. 184.23.20.208 (talk) 18:38, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
I agree. This topological interpretation of Eliakim has come up here and there (e.g., https://www.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/homilies/2012/documents/hf_ben-xvi_hom_20120629_pallio.html), but it's not something that Church has included in her Catechism or defined in a more formal way. It's given too much prominence here as though it were a major teaching about the papacy. Prosequor (talk) 15:43, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
I'd like to add that the picture show is not of the steward/chancellor Eliakim, but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliakim,_son_of_Abiud Robert.E.Riley (talk) 02:07, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
According to his article, Pope Leo XI reigned for only 27 days. Is there any reason he has been excluded from the list of shortest-reigning Popes? He appears in 9th place of the list in the Spanish and Simple English versions of this section. El monty (talk) 14:15, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
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@Johnbod and I seem to having a very weird argument. It started with me being confused by the wording of the lede: why is the Pope the "visible head" and not just the "head" of the Church? Googling led me to Head of the Church#Catholic_Church which nicely explains the distinction. So I linked it. Johnbod reverted my change, saying it wasn't a useful link. There was a strange little back and forth where the goalposts shifted a couple times until he was saying, OK, you can have your link, but you have to change "visible head" to "head on Earth." He has not explained why.
I guess either term will do, but I really would like an explanation as to why the change is necessary. "Visible head" is more popular historically. The term is used elsewhere in the article and in the article I linked. It's been the wording in this article for a long time, and wasn't seen as a problem before Johnbod decided he didn't like my link.
Tagging @EXANXC and @Graham11 since they recently made edits to the lede. Isaac Rabinovitch (talk) 23:36, 3 June 2024 (UTC)