The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Krimpet (talk) 05:09, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kigo (Fandom)

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I would speedy this, but it doesn't seem to meet any of the criteria. It's a completely nn fan pairing in the series Kim Possible. Deranged bulbasaur 06:57, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There are sources in the article, but none of them appear to be reliable sources as they all come from websites with user submitted content and one first-party interview with trivial mention. Deranged bulbasaur 07:00, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

All right, all right! Please give me some credit. I've just created the article and was about to ask some Wikipedians opinions about it. I know I couldn't put actual reliable sources, but I did the best I could, and I think I stated enough sources to prove everything that's stated in the article. Please don't come and suggest it deletion just like that. I'm trying to create something here. --Alexlayer 07:04, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- If you think an article's existence is dubious and want to judge wikipedians' opinions on it, you should create it in userspace first and copy it over if it's accepted. I don't mean anything personal against you; I'm just trying to keep the encyclopedia tidy. Deranged bulbasaur 07:09, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I know I haven't meet the best reliable sources that could be expected, but what criteria is the article not matching? I've researched as much as I though I should, even asked around, but haven't found any rule against this kind of article. Just tell me which criteria I should meet and I'll try to improve it. --Alexlayer 07:06, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- It's original research as it stands, since the material admittedly doesn't come from reliable sources. Since the article says nothing about the impact of this topic, there's also nothing demonstrating notability. Deranged bulbasaur 07:10, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I tried to support as much as sources as possible to the point that I think it avoids being Original Research. I know I haven't managed to meet reliable sources, but considering the topic of the article, I don't think that finding something like that is even possible. Still, I believe that the stated sourced are able to prove everything that's said in the article.
- About the notability, I think that if the sources can prove something, it is the fact that the topic is known and talked about, even if it match lesser levels of notability.
- I'm trying to improve the article here. Please help me to find a way. --Alexlayer 07:22, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I'm sorry, this is original research. Such a pairing is not notable due to the complete lack of information on it from reliable sources. Sourcing things from forums is problematic for the reason that, if you give me ten minutes, I could have posted far more 'sources' all over the web claiming the exact opposite. Also, sourcing the episodes themselves in this manner is original research. J Milburn 09:30, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also, your point I know I haven't managed to meet reliable sources, but considering the topic of the article, I don't think that finding something like that is even possible. Is even further reason for deletion. If reliable sources do not exist, we cannot write anything about it. J Milburn 09:31, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. We have deleted this subject twice before; see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kim shego and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kigo (Kim Possible). There is still no evidence that show that this subtext is being discussed in reliable sources. (Compare, for example, the subtext of a Xena-Gabrielle relationship in Xena: Warrior Princess, which was discussed in mainstream media.) The closest thing to a reliable source in this article is a forum post by one of the show's writers, Nicole Dubuc, which is mistakenly attributed to Nicole Sullivan, the voice actress for Shego -- and Dubuc's post mentions the word "Kigo" but does not endorse the idea behind it. --Metropolitan90 17:59, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as fan speculation and in-universe, not terribly encyclopedic OR. Tony Fox (arf!) 03:53, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.