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The result was keep. Any user who disagrees with this decision feel free to revert this NAC. As I see it however, there is a very clear consensus to keep. (non-admin closure) MacMed^talk _stalk 02:03, 26 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mihalis Safras[edit]

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First Afd had no clear consensus. But this is still a poorly sourced WP:BLP that does not meet WP:NMG. bender235 (talk) 16:58, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. From where I am sitting the first AfD has a very clear keep consensus (despite the Admin's call). There are a number of references for this techno musician/DJ on both English and Greek Google. He certainly is notable in his field. Article needs more work and more references. Moreover, I think it is bad form to relist this for AfD after the admin's poor call. Nipsonanomhmata ^(Talk) 17:25, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Putting an AFD up on an article that passed one less than a month ago says it all. No deletion here.... Are in need of some work but that can be fixed ofcourse.--BabbaQ (talk) 18:13, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It did not pass. It was no consensus. Shadowjams (talk) 21:21, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Stifle's "no consensus" call seems quite accurate to me, and there is nothing to stop a "no consensus" AfD being renominated in early course. There is no bad faith here. But having said that, I'm persuaded by this source, so I'd go with keep for this one.—S Marshall T/C 21:43, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
~~Weak delete~~Keep ~~My opinion is still the same. I feel the sources are weak and don't establish notability.~~ I'll admit to being borderline though and there might be a bit of personal bias since I just dont care for tech music ;)--v/r - TP 00:52, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- How is it possible to weak delete somebody responsible for the music for Apple Inc.'s iPhone marketing campaign? Nipsonanomhmata ^(Talk) 09:32, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - Is there something notable about the marketing campaign or the genre of music the artist is apparently known for?--v/r - TP 13:48, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    - Apparently notable enough to be selected for use by Apple Inc. for an iPhone marketing campaign which is in itself notable. Nipsonanomhmata ^(Talk) 14:00, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      - That's my question, is and how is the apple campaign notable? Is every artist picked to do a tune for an advertisement notable? Is there something unique about this campaign or tune that makes it notable?--v/r - T P 19:06, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
        Yes, the Apple iPhone is one of the most popular hardware products ever invented by man. Isn't that notable enough. Being asked to provide the music for the advertisement of the product is a big deal. Nipsonanomhmata ^(Talk) 19:23, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
        You keep avoiding answering my question. You did this in the last AFD on this topic too. I am not asking about the IPod or anything else. I asked if there is anything notable about the advertising campaign and specifically that is attributed to the song? Anything else is WP:INHERITED. It is a huge stretch to say that the IPod is notable and therefore Mahalis Safras is notable. You're saying the IPad is notable, therefore the campaign is notable, therefore the music is notable, therefore the artist is notable. That is a lot of inheritance.--v/r - T P 18:08, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
        An artist can be notable since his discography has been listed as one of the most impressive ones in the specific style. Therefore some companies like Apple and so on used some for their campaigns. Press and Mags have been listed that as well.
        Safras is easily notable without the advertising campaign. But the ad campaign does not detract. Nipsonanomhmata ^(Talk) 08:18, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
        In agree with previous comment. Keep and notable offcourse.. Lenapapalenapapa ^(Talk) 08:18, 25 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. On the DJ pages of residentadvisor.net, the online music magazine, it is stated that there is:

"Not much to say about the Athenian DJ/producer and mastermind behind the Material Series. Mihalis Safras is considered to be one of the most high-profiled artists and the most productive techno producer on the planet.^[1]" Nipsonanomhmata ^(Talk) 08:40, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

--LP- TP 15:08, 22 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

So it's generally accepted community consensus that an artist whose work is used in a major marketing campaign is considered notable?--v/r - TP 17:23, 22 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Refer to my last comment above. Nipsonanomhmata ^(Talk) 08:41, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - It would have been a lot easier to follow if you had replied chronologically. Alright, I'm convinced with this quote. I've adjusted my !vote.--v/r - TP 13:30, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    - I appreciate that. Thank you. Nipsonanomhmata ^(Talk) 13:48, 23 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - All sources are valid and clear — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lenapapa (talk • contribs) 12:05, 19 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This debate has been included in the list of Greece-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:28, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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