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The result was Delete. Rjd0060 (talk) 15:19, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Transform diet

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Blatant advertisement. Promoting a diet/book that hasn't been published yet. Article doesn't even define what the diet is, and states "The "big 3" is still a secret and will not be out until the book is on shelves." THEN WHO WAS PHONE? (talk) 03:53, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Delete Blatant advertising and fails WP:RS, WP:NN. Annette46 (talk) 04:10, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Poltair (talk) 04:11, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
DO NOT Delete per nom. User:TheWizard49 UCLA Class mates and professor call this a "movement" —Preceding undated comment was added at 04:30, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Blatantly promotional. The article is designed to sell the book, not improve the encyclopedia. Movingboxes (talk) 04:50, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strong delete. All completely unverifiable, given that the book hasn't been released yet. The "references" are completely worthless - several are in fact about the author's brother (who is an American football player) and happen to mention the author in passing. None of them meet any standard of independent sources. Zetawoof_(ζ) 05:06, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Information from this article (including the "big 3") has been added to the author's article (Brett Salisbury) by an IP editor. Movingboxes (talk) 06:06, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Information from this article (including the "big 3") has been removed, the publishing company, Iuniverse confirms book. ATTN:Movingboxes I'm a big contributor to the Salisbury Family and I'm a close personal and business friend. Thank you for taking the time to expose the errors and problems with the Transform diet and Brett Salisbury, and Sean Salisbury. I would like you to please note that EVERYTHING stated on both sean and brett salisbury website including the transform diet are correct. A simple google, clicking on the news tab, dated not recent but back to the 1980's has every article to verify statements. As for the book, you can contact IUniverse themselves that these statements are true and correct. There are (E)copies floating around to various Universities and reporters throughout the country that have copies and proof of these statements. Here is the ISBN number for the Transform Diet:The ISBN of Transform Diet: 0-595-51569-X The ISBN of eBook editions of title is: 0-595-61947-9 The ISBN of Hardcover title is: 0-595-50497-3. Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.223.102.70 (talk) 12:53, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ISBN number —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.223.102.70 (talk) 13:15, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The ISBN is: 0-595-51569-X The ISBN of eBook editions of title is: 0-595-61947-9 The ISBN of Hardcover editions title is: 0-595-50497-3—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.223.102.70 (talk) 11:45, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - clear advertising puffery. Arguably subject to speedy as spam. I also nominate Brett Salisbury, since aside from the fact that he has a minimally famous brother, and is the author of this unpublished work, I'm not sure what constitutes a claim of notability on his page. It's also completely unsourced, of course, except for the same bits of advertising. AlexTiefling (talk) 13:55, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Note to closing admin off topic discussion of the deletion of Brett Salisbury moved Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_deletion/Transform_diet to the discussion page. -Verdatum (talk) 17:30, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Can anyone who actually know about US football and is unconnected with the various accounts that have built up the Transform diet and Brett Salisbury pages provide some insight here? The whole thing reads like a publicity stunt for an unpublished book still. AlexTiefling (talk) 16:19, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't believe you can dispute the claim or attack the credibility of Brett Salisbury. However, the book the tranform diet needs to be removed. I agree. It's not on shelves. However everything he has done and has been verified is noteworthy. I see he has been on the list for 3 years. The transform diet was recent. Vote to remove transform diet, but leave Brett Salisbury. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.223.102.70 (talk) 16:43, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

<sarcasm>Notable? Notable?!! He was the 72nd greatest high school football player of all time in San Diego's north county! How could anybody say he isn't notable?!</sarcasm> Looie496 (talk) 23:51, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

High School? Who said anything about those days? We were speaking of his all-american college and 3 time MVP pro days... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.223.102.70 (talk) 17:14, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. This nomination is not just about a book "not being on the shelves". The article is about a diet -- not a book. Here the two are inseparable, which is a manifestation of the lack of notability of the diet. Even when the book is released, and even if an article was written from a neutral point of view with no promotional language, one still needs to show the notability of the diet with reliably sourced, verifiable, references. The physical existence and distribution of a book defining/describing the diet does not guarantee that this topic will become appropriate for a Wikipedia article. Best of luck to you and thanks for participating in these discussions, THEN WHO WAS PHONE? (talk) 18:03, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No establishment of notability. It's not that hard to come up with a diet, set up a website and get a book published. The question this article fails to answer is, does anyone care about it? -Verdatum (talk) 18:15, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment User:68.223.102.70 is hardly an independent source - that's one of the IPs whose only contributions are to Brett Salisbury and Transform diet. And, of course, AfD is not a vote. AlexTiefling (talk) 19:09, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, advert. Stifle (talk) 19:45, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WHO IS ALEXTIEFLING?? AN "EDITOR" FOR WIKIPEDIA? TALK ABOUT NO ESTABLISHMENT OF NOTABLITY. HOW DID HE GET THIS TITLE? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.223.102.70 (talk) 18:31, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment An "editor" is simply one who edits Wikipedia--as you just did, for example. You're an editor, I'm an editor, we're all editors. Movingboxes (talk) 19:14, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Coincidentally, the same way as one gets the title "Nutritionist" :) Pseudomonas_(talk) 19:13, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So how soon until this is removed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.223.102.70 (talk) 19:42, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

From WP:DELETE: "The discussion lasts at least five days; afterwards, pages are deleted by an administrator if there is consensus to do so." Looks like the article was nominated for deletion two days ago. Movingboxes (talk) 21:36, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 23:35, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 23:36, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - No reliable sources to establish notability could be found for this book that has not yet been published. Does not meet any of the basic criteria in Notability (books). --Captain-tucker (talk) 01:29, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - looks like blatant advertising for a non-notable website. Pseudomonas_(talk)
Delete blatant wikispam for wholly un-notable subject. — ciphergoth 19:37, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

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