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The result was delete. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:01, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Walhalla (restaurant) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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Local restaurant in Finland. I see nothing stated in the article that would indicate why it is notable. It appears to be a direct translation of an Finnish WP article, without verification of the sources. One is a deadlink, and the other says the restaurant is currently closed - not reflected in the article. Does not meet WP:NORG, lack of in-depth independent coverage. MB 03:33, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Finland-related deletion discussions. MB 03:33, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I'm not overtly familiar with WP:NORG/WP:NCORP, but here's some Finnish coverage:
  • Helsingin Sanomat review (probably paywalled?): [1], 4200 characters
  • Iltalehti story describing the restaurant: [2], 2800 characters; appears to be a background piece for a larger set of stories about Putin's visit to Helsinki.
  • Ilta-Sanomat story: [3], 6600 characters; similar to the previous.
  • Further, but briefer, coverage by Helsingin Sanomat: [4] (775 chars about subject), [5] (300 chars about subject), [6] (2000 chars), [7] (2500 chars), [8] (650 chars about subject).

The last group is mostly shorter review style pieces, but I did find [9], [10] and [11] interesting: they appear to describe weird "culinaristic concerts" which combine music by various composers with thematically related foods.

In addition, I found some individual hits in books using Google Books, but these were mostly limited to passing mentions in architectural books and travel guides. The mentions in architectural books gives me a bit of pause w/r/t the possibility that there'd be more coverage in that domain, but I'm unable to locate anything meaningful. -Ljleppan (talk) 08:04, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete I've been searching around for a while on this but I didn't find anything to add to Ljleppan's post. Helsingin Sanomat's review is a great source, but that's where it all stops. Reading it thoroughly, Iltalehti's article basically consists of a one short 2-3 sentences paragraph of original content, then a summary of the Sanomat's review, then Tripadvisor ratings mention. Not a WP:SIGCOV for me. Ilta-Sanomat one appears like a large coverage but is mentioning only the happenings of the dinner Putin had, little about the restaurant itself ("The prices of the menus vary between around 40 euros and 75 euros" and that Saves has been the entrepreneur at Walhalla for 30 years). Jovanmilic97 (talk) 23:41, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:27, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Food and drink and Business. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 07:38, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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