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Upmerge for now without prejudice per nom. (Dual merge to Works by year unnecessary; child is already in Songs by year). NLeeuw (talk) 06:59, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:2004 video games with demos
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Nominator's rationale: Absolutely not a defining trait. Thousands upon thousands of video games have demos, and none of them are defined by that. I nominated 2004, then noticed the parent and several others. All should go. -- ferret (talk) 13:04, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It would be very sad you you delete :(
Not all games have demos. Thousands? Ok, they are divided by years.
Demo is important - because it freely distributable, and we can download it from some websites. This is imprtant for abandonware, for example Armies of Exigo - you cannot buy this game - we have only torrents or great demo.
And often demos is like a beta version of the game, that looks differently from the release version - this is important for the history and research. I am surprised that you want to delete such category :( Vitaly Zdanevich (talk) 16:35, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: I will tag all of the subcategories; if there is no further participation in a week we should be all set for deleting them. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 11:55, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Disasters in Philippines by province or territory
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Category:Arab-American gangs
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Category:Swingin' Utters
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Category:Video games set in Eastern Europe
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Category:Eastern European restaurants
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Propose deletingCategory:Eastern European restaurants (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale:WP:ARBITRARYCAT, unnecessary grouping of 3 restaurants which are already in the Russian, Ukrainian and Polish restaurants trees. I recommend Just Delete, there's no point in merging. NLeeuw (talk) 09:18, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Central European art groups
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Nominator's rationale:WP:ARBITRARYCAT. There doesn't seem to be anything particularly "Central European" to the articles in this group. Some things are Czech, some Swiss, one German, one Austrian, one Swiss-Austrian and one Luxemburgish, but that's it. The contents do not suggest a larger "Central European" scope, let alone that the category has properly defined its scope. According to several definitions, Luxembourg and Switzerland belong to "Western Europe", while Czechia belongs to "Eastern Europe". The present grouping seems WP:OR. Upmerging to "Europe" resolves the arbitrariness. NLeeuw (talk) 05:18, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Central European cuisine
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Category:National Heroes of North Korea
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Propose renaming Category:National Heroes of North Korea to Category:Heroes of the Republic
Nominator's rationale: Main article: Hero of the Republic. Not sure what the best name for this category is; should it specify North Korea in parentheses? I don't think "National" should be a part of the title; there doesn't seem to be any indication that it is in either Korean or English. toobigtokale (talk) 21:35, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with both assessments, and am ok with either deletion or renaming to the suggested title. Will keep that guideline in mind from now on, thanks. toobigtokale (talk) 18:02, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Rename or delete? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:30, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Same question: rename or delete? Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:58, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:1990s Japanese superhero films
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See other similar cats. Again, 2 subcats and 3 articles does not strike me as an indecently low number: 'Categories which intersect two (or more) topics or characteristics can result in very narrow categories with few members. Such categories should only be created when both parent categories are large enough for diffusion to be an option, and when similar intersections can be made for related categories.' That seems to be the case here and up-merge seems unnecessary.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank)12:27, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Lapinjärvi (municipality)
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I agree with Marco; keep this category and per WP:BOLDMOVE (If you disagree with a prior bold move, and the new title has not been in place for a long time, you may revert the move yourself) I have undone the move. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:11, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Let's see if the RM concludes as moved, or if there is consensus to rename here. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Justarandomamerican (talk) Have a good day! 01:55, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If I may make a suggestion to the closer, I think closing this as no consensus is the best way forward. All of the above comments will be irrelevant once the RM is closed, and therefore a fresh discussion will be more productive than trying to continue this one. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 18:58, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:19th-century Roman Catholic church buildings in New Caledonia
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For many conditions/disabilities/traits, the use of person-first language is preferred or there is no consensus. This was also true in the past for autistic people. However, within the last few years, particularly since the rise of the Autism_rights_movement and its focus on self-advocacy, use of identity-first language has become much more preferred and prominent among people who are actually autistic.
While neurotypical people have no consensus on person-first or identity-first language, this category is used specifically by people who are actually autistic. So, in order to better represent people who self-identify with the category, it would be better for it to be named "Autistic Wikipedians".
Although some prefer to use the person-first terminology person with autism, most members of the autistic community prefer autistic person or autistic in formal English, to stress that autism is a part of their identity rather than a disease they have. In addition, phrases like suffers from autism are objectionable to many people, and are discouraged by prominent style guides.
Autistic adults and parents were more likely to select an [identity-first language] term. The identity-first terms “I am autistic” (64.1%) and “I have autism” (13.1%) were the most common terms selected.
This article shows autistic people generally prefer identity-first language, while other people who aren't autistic may prefer person-first language or may have no preference. Since this category is about Wikipedians who are autistic self-identifying, it makes sense to use identity-first language. This is more likely to respect the identity of the people in the category.
There has been a recent shift from person-first to identity-first language to describe autism. In this study, Australian adults who reported having a diagnosis of autism (N 198) rated and ranked autism-terms for preference and offensiveness, and explained their choice in free-text. ‘Autistic’, ‘Person on the Autism Spectrum’, and ‘Autistic Person’ were rated most preferred and least offensive overall. [...] Statements in this theme reflected that being autistic is core to these participants’ sense of self, and not something that can be removed or separated from them (i.e., their autism is not an ‘accessory’)
No change: "Category:Autistic Wikipedians" is a redirect to "Category:Wikipedians with autism". It is not possible for Wikipedians to add the "Autistic Wikipedians" category to their user page. This is because bots will edit their user page to "Category:Wikipedians with autism" in an attempt to "fix" the redirect.
Another name: As per the Australian paper, the term "Person on the Autism Spectrum" was most consistently ranked and offended the fewest people, though it wasn't the most preferred term as frequently as "Autistic Person".
While "Autistic Person" may not appeal to every single person who self-identifies as autistic, it overall has greater appeal in English-speaking communities than "Person with autism". CauliflowerMoon (talk) 09:35, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support making a change. My impression has been that the general preference in the community is to use Identity first language rather than person first language. Annoyingly, I could have sworn that the APA style guide used autism as an example for identity first preference... but it seems I was either misremembering or it was changed [1]. One core tenent that I think is extremely applicable from the APA guide: "Use person-first or identity-first language as is appropriate for the community or person being discussed. The language used should be selected with the understanding that disabled people's expressed preferences regarding identification supersede matters of style. " I think creating three categories with a user box template could be a workable solution. We could have the main category be: Category:Wikipedians on the Autism Spectrum, and have two child categories with Category:Autistic Wikipedians and Category:Wikipedians with autism. Mason (talk) 00:32, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Mixed Do whatever you want. But this seems a little bit pointless to me, maybe that's just me. As an autistic person myself i don't care what happens, both seem fine to me AuroraANovaUma (talk) 23:41, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Emigrants from British North America
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Merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. As in the previous discussion, I would be ok with a follow-up proposal to rename pre-confederation Canada to British North America. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:48, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Australian association football cup seasons
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Oppose as suggested, and instead move to ‹The templateCat is being considered for merging.› Category:Seasons in Australian soccer cup competitions to match the format of the other similar cats suggested. I will also correct the OP on one point, namely that the current title is 'association football' so there is no ambiguity with 'Australian football' as claimed. GiantSnowman17:38, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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