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The article was promoted by User:SandyGeorgia 00:31, 27 September 2008 [1].

Little Miss Sunshine

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Nominator(s): --Nehrams2020 (talk)
previous FAC (04:18, 5 September 2008)


I am nominating this article again after it failed a few weeks ago. In its history, the article has gone through the GA process, WP:FILM's A-class review, and multiple changes that were made in response to the comments left in the last FAC (please take a look at the last discussion). Since the nomination was failed, the hidden awards section was branched off into its own article and the plot was reworked, among other minor edits. I will try to respond to all comments as soon as possible. Thanks for taking a look and happy reviewing! --Nehrams2020 (talk) 06:27, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It may be thought to be the DVD cover (which does use the same image) or some other type of promotional image. It is common for most film articles to include a caption for the image in the infobox. Let me know if you still disagree. --Nehrams2020 (talk) 10:12, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - please see previous FAC for unstruck sourcing concerns. (Sorry, I'm trying to catch up from being gone a week, so don't have time to retype them all!) Ealdgyth - Talk 19:33, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Would you like me to copy and paste the ELs to this page that still needed some opinion by other reviewers? --Nehrams2020 (talk) 22:48, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That's up to you. It certainly wouldn't hurt, I'm still trying to catch up! Ealdgyth - Talk 01:24, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If the sourcing concerns weren't resolved, why is the article re-nominated? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 04:52, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, in the film, she was one of the first one to jump into the van once it had a rolling start, and each successive remaining family member would jump in based on their endurance capabilities. Wow, I made that sound really complicated. It states 20mph in the plot because that is what the mechanic recommended to the family in the first scene concerning the issue. --Nehrams2020 (talk) 22:48, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OK lets put that down to the science of Hollywood, not something to try and resolve in this article! ϢereSpielChequers 08:06, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for taking a look. --Nehrams2020 (talk) 22:57, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I reduced it a bit, and it is now under 700 words, which complies with the MOS of WP:FILMS. Please take another look. --Nehrams2020 (talk) 22:57, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

SandyGeorgia (Talk) 04:55, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would like the opinions of reviewers to please take a look at these external links used for sourcing numerous statements throughout the article to determine if they are reliable. I have provided rationales at the last FAC, so please see the comments there. For the majority of these, they are direct interviews with the directors or cast and only appear on these sites. After initially starting with 17 links, it has been whittled down to these five, with the rest either being removed, replaced, or were later deemed reliable. --Nehrams2020 (talk) 22:57, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

comment - I dont think Image:LittleMissSunshineCast.jpg is needed in order to understand the vans had to be modified for the purpose of obtaining the correct shot Fasach Nua (talk) 08:01, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I watched the entire film and there are only two shots in the entire film that show the entire family in one camera angle within the van, including this one. I could include another angle on the side of the van, but it would only show two to four of the family members and the sides of their heads. In addition, the image reflects the views of the writer of the film, as illustrated in the quote at the beginning of the "Volkswagen T2 Microbus" section. He specifically stated that the bus would be a significant choice for the road trip vehicle because of the camera angles, including through the front windshield. Do you think that the caption should be modified to focus more on the quote and/or remain with the modification of the vans? --Nehrams2020 (talk) 22:57, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Actually if it is used to show the main characters, as well as the camera angle it would be okay. The characters need to be identified in the caption and the FU rationale needs tidied up Fasach Nua (talk) 07:51, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I had actually had the cast members mentioned in the caption, but in the last FAC it was recommended that it be removed due to the length of the caption. How should the FUR be tidied up? --Nehrams2020 (talk) 09:24, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
My personal preference would be have the cast list in the picture caption, and the current camera related text in the main body, from which the image can then be referenced, ,but you do need to get maximum functionality out of non-free images Fasach Nua (talk) 10:13, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I think that would be great too, but I think that if I just mentioned the cast in the caption, people would not think it would be justifiable to keep. If readers click on the image, in the summary it states which actors are in the image. --Nehrams2020 (talk) 18:29, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
these look fine to me. I wouldn't certify them as reliable in all cases, but in this case, they work. Good work! Ealdgyth - Talk 12:20, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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