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I believe I've seen other caramell dansen spoofs on youtube as well. But the ones I saw were rather shoddy in quality so I suppose they dont really need to be pointed out.
Section on parodies has a heavy furry bias, it definitely doesn't reflect what was seen on 4chan or 2ch. Shii (tock) —Preceding comment was added at 23:36, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
The problem with this logic is that there are videos on Youtube from September 2006 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5UXMc4bbsY) where there are two Filipino girls doing "The Carmell Dance" (sic) to the Popotan animation. So we can say 100% for certain beyond any doubt whatsoever that any other site that does not precede that date cannot be the source of the meme. The earliest known example of the flash animation isolated from the underlying anime is in June 2005 not on 4can but on the Hongfire file sharing site, which makes much more sense than 4chan since Hongfire is focused on anime. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.131.78.240 (talk) 05:36, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
Anyone have reliable sources for Popotan being the one that propelled the Caramelldansen dance into a meme?Jinnai (talk) 17:33, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Several media outlets in Japan that focuses on internet/music news have covered Caramelldansen. I'll post them here so people can use them to add to the article:
Hope this helps. _dk (talk) 12:26, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
I was going to use the different frames from the Popotan animation for something, and I expected there to be 15 frames, like the article says... well, I copied all of them to Paint from the Microsoft GIF animator, and it turns out there are only 14. Either the line in the beginning of the article about there being 15 frames is wrong, or an image is missing in this hosted animation loop. Please excuse my being nitty-gritty, but I wanted all of the animation frames, in the case that one happened to be missing. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.216.198.143 (talk) 23:35, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
The link is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWadFYzwimI ; anyone have any idea how many frames it has? (Just out of curiousity) —Preceding unsigned comment added by James chen0 (talk • contribs) 02:31, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
I made the mix early 2006... How could it appear before then? - speedycake —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.71.101.118 (talk) 15:26, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
The current intro reads: "Caramelldansen (misspelled Swedish for The Caramel Dance)".
This must clearly be wrong, at least there is no evidence or sources they're actually singing about caramel. Without delving too deep into this, I'm quite certain it's called Caramelldansen after the band's name, Caramell.
I've changed it to "Caramelldansen (Swedish for The Caramell Dance)"
Lyrics can be found here
80.202.213.133 (talk) 13:14, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
The 'speedycake mix' wasn't made by MySpace user Speedycakemix, as the article previously said. It was probably made by the same Anonymous 4chan user that made the flash loop. 130.89.168.181 (talk) 10:29, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
The song was actually sped up 1.2 times from the original. (It only says, "sped up", so I decided to give the exact speed/pitch speed-up ratio.) I know this because I got the original version and tried speeding it up 1.3x. It was too fast, so I reduced it to 1.2 and pitch-shifted it to (1.2x Hz) as well, and it sounded exactly like the speedycake remix. Is this little statistic worthy of being put on the page? ZtObOr 13:05, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Does that belong there? It was created last month and not in 2007 like someone else stated. The Great Luffy (talk) 21:35, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Can anyone help me translate this video? Caramelldansen Documental (Japanese)
I want to add subtitles to that. --Ruakuu (talk) 19:25, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
I don't see why the original research tag should still be in this article, since it has enough citation and verifiable reference now.--Ruakuu (talk) 02:53, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
there's still not enough info about the internet phenomenon.Bread Ninja (talk) 22:41, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
"(In this case, "ウマ" is "(゜д゜)ウマー" . This word doesn't mean "horse".)" I removed it because its completly wrong. "(゜д゜)" is one of those japanese smilies used whit some names. Remember that ua(Uma)(ウマ) is missheard for many things, and one of those is horse.
One proof that ua(uma) is used for horse in this meme is in the video documental I added a while ago, where a person is doing caramelldancen with a horse mask on. The other reference I found was on the recent Japanese Caramelldansen Single. In Track 5 a horse sound is part of the remix, so it clearly shows that ua(uma) is taken for horse too. I had my doughts about that line, but didn't want to remove it till I had enought arguments like now.--Ruakuu (talk) 14:14, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
I know that "Uma" was first a miss hearing of "OA(reads, ua)" in the part of the song, "o-o-oa-oa-aa". It seems that some people that don't know the origin of "Uma" is wearing horse masks to make it more fun. Also, there is no proof that these people are wearing horse masks for the song, as some people use it for other purposes. Also in this vidio, it looks as the reporters just rushed into them asking these questions with the people not knowing they were going to be taken vidios of. So the mask in this vidio dose not proove that Uma in this case mean horse.--Moosius (talk) 07:20, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Why hello! Let me get straight to the point, it seems a lot of people are interested in where the meme/flash originated from, and I have the answer. In 2006 I created a simple loop (of the song and a gif I found at /gif/ on 4chan) and uploaded it to my site, and since I was a frequent lurker of /f/ (flash board) at the time I also uploaded it there. It received little to none response, or so I thought. And now, about 2 years later I find out it apparently got a life of its own (the meme actually flew right by me, I found out just a month ago).
To clear some things up; the music in the flash was the real song by Caramell, but increased in speed via Audacity. Also the loop was somewhat of a sarcastic remark to anime/japanease-culture in general, if anyone care. :) Sadly I don't have much to back up my statements, and I'm not really here to claim some pseudo internet fame. Just want to contribute with some inside info of an apparently half famous internet meme, and you will have to take my word for it. :)
I do have this though, my site as of July 11 2006 with link to original flash.
Hope this helps! Yours, Anonymous 83.254.64.242 (talk) 16:28, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm a little skeptical of that claim to origination of the meme myself. I looked at the website and the date seems reasonable but my problem is that there is a video on Youtube from September 2006 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5UXMc4bbsY) with the dance on it performed by two girls. That means within only two months of the supposed date of the creation of the animation loop with the music random strangers were already posting Youtube videos of it. That's possible but it seems highly unlikely. Honestly, that site linked above looks more like a collection of flash loops someone picked up from surfing the web than it does a series of original creations. So I think the person is likely one of the few who can claim to be around at the beginning but is unlikely to be the actual creator.
http://d.hatena.ne.jp/hidematu/mobile?date=20080302§ion=1204467539 - The article is referenced and appears to be for academic research published by a university. It is in Japanese though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jinnai (talk • contribs) 12:49, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
Ok, after some comming and going mails, talks with the wikipedia staff and the owner of this work, I finally got proof that I have permission to put this CD cover back where it should, since this is the original cover where the song was from and not the japanese release, but I didn't want to move anything till I have complete authotization. Now before anyone trys to change this, try checking on the image info and you will see, also, you can contact the wikipedia staff directly and ask them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ruakuu (talk • contribs) 20:33, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
When was the English adaption made?Firio (talk) 15:33, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
Where exactly did this start at? This article said it started in 4chan, which is mostly for English-speaking regions (especially the U.S.), but there is no citation added to it. I believe Japan started it, while someone from 4chan showed an example of it, then it later became global. Parrothead1983 (talk) 16:49, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
This is a common statement. The problem is that there is no evidence that it's true. Ultimately, I suspect that the precise origins will never be answered with scientific certitude. The best we can do is believe the people who were present at the time it exploded into public consciousness and that is widely acknowledged to be 4chan or Hongfire. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.131.78.240 (talk) 04:10, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
Anyone going to say anything about the obvious homage to this dance in the upcoming Phineas and Ferb special 'Summer Belongs To You' during the JPOP music video? http://phineasandferb.wikia.com/wiki/JPOP_(Welcome_to_Tokyo) Mew Mitsuki (talk) 21:00, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Now that Blizzard has placed it in their video game does the article need a section on the dance itself? My research indicates that the original flash animation was incorporated into a Para Para choreography created by the Youtube user RedKunoichi (AKA "Lex or "Lexy" RL: Alexis Molina). It's her Para Para version that serves as the basis for the Blizzard animation. Sometime in 2009 her Youtube account got banned for violations and thus the original videos got deleted but there are some older Para Para versions by other youtube users from 2008/2009 that credit "Lexy" as the inventor of the dance. Her current Youtube channel is RedKunoichiLexy. So her claim to be the inventor seems legitimate. This Para Para version of Lexy's is the one that people do in real life and at cosplay. I've never seen any other version.
What I have written here is my own research, so I didn't add anything to the wiki article. But maybe someone has a more official source.
Edited to add that as of 2013 Alexis Molina has shifted the focus of her channel to video games and renamed it Lexy Let's Play and there is only one video of her original Para Para dance routine available, she has deleted all the others from Youtube.
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By using the 2008 remix cover it feels like it's causing confusion over what the song actually is, there's caramelldansen, and then there's caramelldansen (20% faster meme version). I understand having the meme be on the same page of the song, but they're not really interchangeable, only one of them is actually the song? I don't see any other pages where remix versions of songs overtake the original, regardless of popularity. 73.95.105.9 (talk) 12:58, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
jan Misali's "who wrote caramelldansen" has been removed from External links (I suppose reasonably - it is a dead link now, after all) after having been taken down from YouTube (which itself stems from a dispute between them and Remixed Records, which can be read about here: [1] and here [2]). However, there's been a reupload of that video to nicovideo [3], officially endorsed by jan Misali (evidence: [4]). Perhaps it could be added back into the External links section? Cascadiawank (talk) 08:32, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
When you read through ,,backround“ and go to Line 12, you can see theres a spelling mistake in ,,come“. It should be called ,,came“. 2A02:810D:4BC0:8BD4:A846:D1AA:EFAC:5FAC (talk) 04:48, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
Can someone pinpoint when the Speedycake remix (not the meme) was released as an official full song in Sweden? I'm seeing in the article 2006, but also 2007 and 2008. 2008 for sure was for the releases in Japan, but need references about 2006/2007. I have removed that from the Remix section infobox for now. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 20:56, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
we need to find a point as to if the 5:20 full version is an extended version of the album version or if it was fan made and if it exists. if anyone happens to find anything Linking to the full version, please add it to the article or cite a source. MarioFan324234 (talk) 19:08, 18 April 2023 (UTC)