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http://www.theverge.com/2014/2/4/5374172/the-coin-prince-charlie-shrem-bitinstant-bitcoin-money-laundering-scandal

Might want to take a read-through and add some new info to the article based on this.

67.208.179.66 (talk) 21:08, 4 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

My recent addition to the Charlie Shrem article was reverted due to concerns about the suitability of sources for a BLP, specifically my usage of 'a Medium post, a YouTube video, and a podcast'. I'd like to clarify my thinking and get some feedback on it:

• YouTube Video: An interview with Charlie Shrem (article subject), conducted by Vox, which is listed as reliable on WP:PRS.
• Podcast: An interview with Charlie Shrem (article subject), by WNYC, which has been consistently regarded as reliable in past discussions (see Archive 63 and Archive 241).
• Medium Article: Authored by the article subject, satisfying WP:BLPSPS & WP:SELFSOURCE.

1. Reliability of Vox & WNYC Interviews:

• Vox is listed on WP:PRS as reliable.
• WNYC is mentioned in the RS archives ( 63 & 241) 4 times as a reliable source, and no mentions of it as questionable.

2. Use of Self-Published Medium Post by Article Subject:

• The Medium post authored by Shrem falls under the guidelines outlined in WP:BLPSPS, which allows for self-published sources if they are written or published by the subject of the article. Such sources can be used to support non-controversial information directly related to the subject, as also supported by WP:ABOUTSELF / WP:SELFSOURCE.

3. Interviews under Wikipedia Guidelines:

• WP:INTERVIEWS & WP:PRIMARYCARE indicate that statements made by interviewees about themselves are generally acceptable for supporting uncontroversial claims about themselves.

(P.S. Even if Vox & WNYC weren't sufficiently reliable sources, given that we can see & hear the subject saying the words, it should be no worse than Self-Published, which seem to be acceptable per WP:BLPSPS & WP:SELFSOURCE.) Yaakovaryeh (talk) 06:56, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding youtube distributed videos by reliable sources, this should be no problem. We have youtube distributing 60 minutes, CNN, fox, etc. The platform that the source shares their content should be of no consideration. As for the Medium piece, normally we are not using these lower quality sources on cryptocurrency articles. We have a long standing consensus to only use very high quality sources on cryptocurrency articles. @David Gerard: care to comment here (I think you did the reverts)? Do you disagree with my framing of this? Thanks! Jtbobwaysf (talk) 07:12, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vox video would probably pass then. The crypto sources and blog sources really wouldn't - David Gerard (talk) 10:23, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I think I misread this. I didnt realize that what was being proposed was vox on youtube. I agree that is probably also passable but borderline. I agree with David that vox probably passes, but not the crypto sources. Apologies for my confusion here. Jtbobwaysf (talk) 06:29, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]