This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the EmDrive article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
Archives: Index, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9Auto-archiving period: 180 days |
The subject of this article is controversial and content may be in dispute. When updating the article, be bold, but not reckless. Feel free to try to improve the article, but don't take it personally if your changes are reversed; instead, come here to the talk page to discuss them. Content must be written from a neutral point of view. Include citations when adding content and consider tagging or removing unsourced information. |
This page is not a forum for general discussion about EmDrive. Any such comments may be removed or refactored. Please limit discussion to improvement of this article. You may wish to ask factual questions about EmDrive at the Reference desk. |
This article was nominated for deletion on 13/9/2006. The result of the discussion was no consensus. |
This article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: |
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Daily pageviews of this article
A graph should have been displayed here but graphs are temporarily disabled. Until they are enabled again, visit the interactive graph at pageviews.wmcloud.org |
Two essential points that were generally made but not summarized in the article:
I'm not sure how best to summarize these points, but made an attempt in the second para of the lede. – SJ + 05:35, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
I have removed content where "inventor" of this stuff called Roger Shawyer defend his inventions even if number of tests by the Dresden University of Technology shows different. It is undue weight, guy does not accept to his stuff does not work. Also some other his stuff are in this article what have to be checked are really notable (he making a new company, succesful tests claimed only by him etc). This EmDrive is one controversial topic, many physicists consider the idea as pseudoscience. So big attention should be given to some statements of inventors, investors, promises, eventual future success stories or so. Wikipedia is not a tool for promotion or advocacy of any kind. Eventual actual results, acceptance in the majority of sources or academic community is easy to be included when and if happen at all. 79.101.168.170 (talk) 17:44, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
Phil Mason gave a nice order-of-magnitude demonstration: if we feed the power that they fed into the device into an ordinary incandescent light bulb instead, and channel the convective current in the living room air generated by the heat of that lamp, it can lift about 5 times as much as the claimed force generated by the device. I think this is germane because it illustrates quite well at a lay level that the minute distorting effects noted by the Dresden team really do have to be taken into account and compensated for properly. 2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:7905:EA7:4BF6:7B0 (talk) 07:51, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
The Emdrive, the Dean Drive and similar entries should all be moved to a new section, perhaps with the title, 'Fraudulent Inventions', and linked to entries on perpetual-motion machines such as the Bessler Wheel. The physics community is adamant that these concepts are contrary to well-established laws of physics. It is thus a disservice to the general public not to make this perfectly clear. The fact that engineers at NASA and certain universities waste time on such concepts should not be taken as informed support, but rather as an indictment of their poor knowledge of physics. Complete deletion of the inventions, on the other hand, would remove a useful resource for the teaching of physics, with their being used as instructive examples of defective theory and poor experimental skills. 92.14.41.137 (talk) 03:01, 2 September 2023 (UTC)