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What, if anything, should be said about this list?
http://www.globalguardians.com/stuff/overlord/eviloverlord.php
Anspach admits that this list developed separately and concurrently with his own, and while both authors have conceded that there has been cross-pollination, both lists are entities that stand on their own and were created separately. (In fact, according to the histories given by the creators, the one I linked to above predates Anspach's list.) So... what to do?
This article has several in links. One of which Helen Darville involved a journalist being fired for plagarism of the list. Seems notable enough to keep. --RJFJR 21:47, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
The link I have added to the end - which provides links to the Evil Empress, Innocent Bystander and other lists, is one of several similar, all equally useful. Jackiespeel 22:08, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
I think it's definitely notable. I don't know if it fits the strictest definition of the term "internet meme", but it's a very well-known list. It's probably impossible to have any significant online involvement with the geek subculture (disclaimer: I don't mean "geek" in a pejorative way; I've seen Star Wars waaaay too many times to consider it anything other than an honorific!) without seeing this list at least once. It's so well-loved that parts of it have been reproduced in tons of places, which is why the link Ka1iban found was just to some kid's (Angelfire or Geocities or whatever it was) site. I think I even saw a (greatly abridged) version in Knights of the Dinner Table some years back. It's a veritable staple of geek humor. --Icarus 03:56, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
The notability arguments above boil down to (1) somebody got busted for plagiarizing it once, so it must be notable, and (2) lots of geeks know about it. I don't accept either of these; people get busted for plagiarizing trivial documents all the time. This does not elevate the documents to notable status. Should a Wikipedia article be created for every document plagiarized by Blair Hornstine? And the "geeks know about it test" come up pretty thin -- a google search for text in the list itself, omitting trivials, finds only 144 hits, which seems light for an "internet meme". Nexis finds no print hits, and only one blog hit (which seems to be a quotation of a single line from the list).
I accept that some people have heard the joke, and that it is notable to them, but it doesn't seem to me that many people have heard it, or that it's sufficiently notable to merit an article here. I'm calling for AFD. Uucp
This line is in plaintext on the page: "This is much bullshit george w bush"
but isn't in there when I go to edit. Someone fix, please? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.216.83.78 (talk) 18:51, 10 February 2007 (UTC).
I think this needs to be fixed up a little. It looks really sloppy. The list needs proper punctuation and to be numbered. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sworded lion26 (talk • contribs) 00:53, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Anon: stop posting the Butler list here. I realize you're basing your posting on "The following list isn't copyrighted to anyone, as we didn't think to copyright it while we were creating it. If you enjoy it, feel free to pass it along or post it anywhere with no strings attached."[1], but Butler is wrong.
Copyright doesn't work that way. Everything is copyrighted by default (all rights not explicitly granted are reserved). And further, this proprietary non-licensing is viral: even if every contributor but the last had explicitly licensed their contribution into the public domain as required (which they didn't so this is a moot point), the last's non-public domain contribution turns it from a PD list into a derivative but completely copyrighted list. That list cannot be posted on Wikipedia, short of getting each and every contributor to license their contribution appropriately. Don't add it back. --Gwern (contribs) 23:31 10 February 2008 (GMT)
Copyright seems unclear. That aside, is it even appropriate to include the list, editorially speaking? The article's purpose here is encyclopedic description of the list, not hosting of the list itself. One or two examples might be preferred (and possibly admissible under WP's fair use rules, if the copyright discussion trends that way) -- take the Chuck Norris facts article as an example. The full list might be more appropriate for Wikisource if the licensing is appropriate. – Luna Santin (talk) 01:09, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
I'm trying to remember if there's enough things that were inspired by the list to mention; or possibly where it's been referenced. I can remember at least three webcomics that were based on it, but that was years ago and can't remember their names. Also, a few years back I copied onto my computer what was the start of the 'Minion's Motivational Manual' (sample below); something created by the Evil Overlord and handed out to his minions. There was only 21 rules when I took it down, but it had to have continued somewhere. (e.g. Rule #16: If you hear a strange sound outside of your field of vision, call for reinforcements and sound the alarm. Addendum 16.A: Never, under any circumstances, should you check out a situation alone. Addendum 16.B: Unless ordered by your Master. - Rule #13: You shall not be lenient in your shooting lessons. It is expected of you to be able to *hit* whatever you shoot at.) --Gero (talk) 17:02, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
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