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A lot of the primary sources are either the primary source or no longer available. Wikipedia encourages editors to stray away from using only the primary source and to instead look to more credible and academic sources. Many of the other sources for this article are so out of date that they are no longer available from the link provided, such as the third source. I am going to go through and get rid of the sources that are outdated with the intention to find newer and more credible sources instead. I will also begin finding more sources to replace the information taken from the primary source of Fanfiction.net. OsseusIgni (talk) 14:16, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
I do not believe that either of these sections need to be included on this article, especially the long fan fiction works. Fanfiction.net is a fast moving website with new fanfictions posted everyday. These sections would both need a lot of upkeep as the information in them become outdated much faster than other data and research conducted. The content in both of these sections rely solely on the primary source of the website. OsseusIgni (talk) 13:51, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
There's a section FanFiction.Net#Notable fanfiction which lists fanfiction entries on the site with over 500,000 words. (There was previously another section with 100,000 words or more but deemed "popular" without reliable sources to back up, but I decided to bust that out on the spot for being definitely uncyclopediac). I was considering going WP:BOLD and deleting the section for being WP:FANCRUFT unworthy of being listed on a Wikipedia article (unlike List of longest novels, which is definitely interest of many people), but I decided to ask first. (And don't ever ask me about Sonic's Ultimate Harem.) ❤︎PrincessPandaWiki (talk | contribs) 22:37, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
@Old Naval Rooftops: I would like to know why you think information on most popular sections, list of longest fanfiction (table has been commented out for now), and disallowed fanfiction types are worthy of being on Wikipedia. I disagree because they rely on primary sources and Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information, making them likely WP:FANCRUFT. It's better to discuss here than engage in an edit war. (NOTE: Above section is obsolete, it was for a problem I previously tried to solve after submitting the section.) ❤︎PrincessPandaWiki (talk | contribs) 20:15, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
It has been questioned before on these pages, but so far the claim that fanfiction.net is "the most popular erotica website for women" remains in the article. There are many reasons to be dubious about this claim and its current placement:
For all of these reasons, I have weakened the claim somewhat to the rather more defendable:
In 2011, Ogi Ogas described Fanfiction.net as 'the world's most popular "erotic" site for women'.
This article names "The Loud House: Revamped" as the longest piece of fanfiction ever written, but fails to mention that much of its content is copy-pasted from other people's writing (mainly FANDOM/Wikia articles) and uses a "script structure" (i.e. written like a film script with names and directions), something which FFN expressly disallowed in the past (and still disallows according to its rules) yet for some reason gives this particular work a pass. The parts of the fiction which are self-written are written in an incredibly simplistic manner, no higher than an elementary school standard of writing, and in some cases can simply be an entire page of onomatopoeia (i.e. KRRAAABBBOOOOOMMMM). It is less a fanfiction and more an outright brazen attempt at making the longest piece of literature through any means necessary without logic, passion, or even skill. I can provide evidence for these two claims should it somehow be required.
No disrespect intended to Mr. Knudson, and I do not wish to hijack the purpose of this talk page, but I believe TLH:R should be delegitimized as the longest fanfiction based on these extenuating circumstances (i.e. uncited work taken verbatim from hundreds of uncredited co-authors). I do not think it should be honoured on this article, as it is quite frankly an insult to creative literary minds everywhere, nor should FFN continue to feature it as it breaks the "script" rule, and I'd imagine breaks a fair few copyright laws too. Of course, this isn't FFN, so I'll direct that later complaint to their administration.
194.207.183.182 (talk) 15:34, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
Hi, I'm a college student in Etherfire's technical editing class and I'm going to be editing this article for a bit. I'll make a sandbox draft for any major changes.
@Caeciliusinhorto: I agree that removing the notable long fan fiction works and replacing it with a more general section that links to other famous fanfiction that was originally hosted on the site makes a lot of sense. I did that as well as removing the top fandoms tables in my sandbox draft. Any other famous fanfiction that was posted on fanfiction.net you can think of? Editingpersona (talk) 19:41, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
So I have been editing the Site Content section in my sandbox draft and I've gotten it to the point where I think it is ready to be published. Since it's a fairly large edit, I wanted to make sure no one has any issues with it. Most notable changes I've made:
Overall, I've tried to make the section similar to the site content/features section on the Archive of Our Own article. I've moved some information around and have also created two sub-sections - "Story Publishing" and "Reader Feedback." I have also removed the "Most Popular sections" because, in my opinion, the information there is WP:Fancruft; information I've added in the "Story Publishing" section should act as a reasonable replacement for this.
The only sub-section I haven't edited is the "Longest Fanfiction" one. For now, my plan is to keep it the same because editing it is going to take a bit of time and research. In my sandbox draft, I made it its own section but I won't be doing this in the article. Editingpersona (talk) 19:27, 9 March 20L22 (UTC)
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 21 August 2023 and 8 December 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Peer reviewers: MessiistheGoat103019, EgoCrush.
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