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this page given the same kind of attention that Spielberg's and Lucas' pages are? Or Miyazaki, for that matter? It just seems like such a short, uninformative article (or, a 'stub') for this particular director. — 71.53.85.163 (talk) 07:23, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Anyone know his personal life? Like is he married? — 99.14.133.4 (talk) 05:53, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
The reference to the director's Greek descent in the start of the article keeps on being removed by HappyWaldo on the grounds of lack of notability, and that only his Australian nationality is notable. As both of George Miller's parents are Greek, I maintain that the info on his ethnic background is notable to Greek diaspora, anyone interested on the person's general background, and of course Australia's own sizeable Greek community. I do not see any good reason for removing this. Alternatively, if the disagreement is on the wording of Greek descent, the text can become a Greek-Australian and have his birth name as well George Miliotis within parentheses Gts-tg (talk) 06:57, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
I get that Greeks are proud of his parents being Greek immigrants, especially now Mad Max is back in the news and everyone loves it, but ethnicity isn't listed in other introductions on Wikipedia. If it was most of the Australian entries would read Scottish-Australian, Irish-Australian, Italian-Australian, German-Australian etc. I don't see why this article should be the exception. Should Wikipedia start listing Snowtown murderer James Vlassakis as a Greek-Australian serial killer? Or do people only want ethnicity pointed out when someone is successful? It sure seems that way. Miller's family background is clearly listed. Also, his birth name is George Miller; he didn't change anything, it was anglicised back in 1921 when the family migrated to Australia and all of his siblings are Millers too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.2.13.210 (talk) 06:58, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
Gts-tg - Your impression is incorrect. General Wikipedia policy says ethnicity shouldn't be listed in the opening paragraph. Hence Hugh Jackman isn't a British-Australian actor, Cate Blanchett isn't an American-Australian actor, Baz Luhrmann isn't a German-Australian-Irish film director etc. Ditto religion, unless it has strong notability (the Pope, say). The issues with both ethnicity and religion on Wikipedia is that they're not clear cut. Most people have a mix of ethnicities and religions when you start going back. That's why the article has always had Australian director (lives and works in Australia, makes Australian films), with detailed info about ethnic heritage, childhood etc in later paragraphs, for people who are interested. As for medical doctor - well, that's listed because his full title is Dr George Miller. Being a doctor also directly informs his filmmaking: Mad Max was inspired by Miller treating car crash victims as an ER doctor, his film Lorenzo's Oil was about curing ALD etc. Doctor doesn't have to be in the first paragraph, it could be below that but I'd leave it there as there's a direct link to his notability. With regards to birth name - the article itself explains both the maternal and paternal anglicisations. Now the intro directly contradicts the rest of the article. The family details have come from research on kythera-family.net, which list him as Miller and explains the name changes of previous generations. The Greek-Australian site seems detailed, reliable and researched. http://www.kythera-family.net/index.php?nav=3-10&cid=63-90&did=2722 Imdb is a really poor source - people copy its mistakes all over the internet. If you still think the names of the Miller siblings are disputed then it should be left out until confirmed either way by something official like Qld Birth, Deaths, Marriages. p.s I think you missed the point about James Vlassakis. Greek Australian isn't notable or relevant, it's got nothing to do with him killing people. He's just an Australian serial killer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.129.80.207 (talk • contribs) 07:52, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Boy, you really want George's birthname to be Miliotis not Miller. Okay, I did a quick check for you. Official documents are preferable to guesswork or unverified articles. George's father enrolled in the Australian Army as James Miller. He couldn't enrol in the military as Miller unless he was Miller. When James married and had children after this, they would be Miller too. The Miliotis name had changed before George was born. Unless you seriously want to argue that his father gave his sons a different surname to his own? http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/DetailsReports/ItemDetail.aspx?Barcode=4895335&isAv=N (I know it says Kythira for birthplace but as you pointed out, when anglicising Greek words people don't always agree on English spelling). As for the examples you cited - they're people born in one country who migrated to a different one, or who had parents from different countries and work in both etc. They reinforce the policy about ethnicity. The Rock, for example, isn't listed isn't as American-Samoan but the article does describe his family background and ethnicity in childhood/background. As others have pointed out multiple times, it's all about notability not personal interest or infamy or any of those things. The notability for George Miller is that he makes films. The ethnicity (Greek heritage) isn't linked to the notability (making films) and when that's the case Wikipedia clearly says it shouldn't be in the first paragraph. If Miller made films in both Australia and Greece, or made films with Greek themes, then you could argue notability but he doesn't. p.s I used to have a Wikipedia account but I can't remember the login now. This back and forth to fix mistakes reminds me why I stopped spending time editing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.129.80.207 (talk) 03:17, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Not confirmation bias, I just don't like it when longstanding entries are altered using unreliable sources, especially when more sources state something different. I verified the family name change with a military document about his father. (The link above times out as it's a govt database but the info on http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au reads MILLER JAMES : Service Number - QX42438 : Date of birth - 25 Nov 1910 : Place of birth - MITATA KYTHIRA GREECE : Place of enlistment - JANDOWAE QLD : Next of Kin - MILLER COLIN). This clears up ambiguity in other sources like kythera-family.net about whether Miliotis was dropped for Miller before or after George's year of birth, 1945. It isn't reasonable to suggest his father legally changed his own name, gave his children a different name, then later changed all their names to match his. Birthname in intro should be reverted to what it always was on Wikipedia. "Early life" should explain the family history and name change, as it already does (although this section could be expanded). Ethnicity in opening paragraph doesn't follow notability guidelines as it isn't linked to his actual notability (filmmaking) and should be reverted to what it was too ie. explained in "early life". Category: Australian people of Greek descent should, of course, remain here with all the other categories Miller fits. Basically, recent changes should go because the entry was more accurate before. I'd do it but someone has locked the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.129.80.207 (talk) 01:15, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Through his agent, George Miller has expressed a preference for having File:George Miller while filming Fury Road (cropped).jpg and File:George Miller at Fury Road premiere.jpg illustrate the article about him. This was expressed in Ticket:2015092110003083 (consent to divulge this was also expressly given). I explained that the choice of which photos illustrate which articles is up to the editors of the page, but offered to swap them out once. I have now done so in Special:Diff/686316415/691212397. Storkk (talk) 10:30, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
Can anyone explain the 8-year gap in his career? According to IMDB, he has no credits from 1998 to 2006. Does anyone know why? The gap sits between Babe: Pig in the City, and Happy Feet. MiguelMunoz (talk | contribs) 09:04, 21 September 2016
It's likely possible he was working on what would become Mad Max: Fury Road around that time. MightyArms (talk) 18:15, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
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