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Genres[edit]

Are there any sources for any of the genres currently given in the infobox? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:38, 19 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Um, if we can't make any edits "as it will cause conflicts for you and the tools you are running on the page", how would we ever make any entry to the above table? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:34, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Did you see Template:EngvarB at the top of this article? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:18, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Martinevans123: - Hi, the CE does not take too long and once I am done edits can be made by any editor. This is done so that no one can undue undo changes or add changes to the article while I am doing the copy edit. When the banner disappears at the top of the article, then you know when the GOCE is done with their work. As a side note, I am almost done. Need about 5 more minutes. As for the template, it has all been converted British English, this does take time to do as it was a mix of American and British when I started. Thanks - GalendaliaChat Me Up 21:55, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I see. Thanks. I think you mean "undo". Martinevans123 (talk) 21:57, 3 May 2020 (UTC) - @Martinevans123: - fixed ;) GalendaliaChat Me Up 22:28, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE copyedit request part 2: Electric Boogaloo[edit]

  •  Done. Thanks for the MoS link.
  • Yes, its predecessor was TMWStW.
  •  Done. Added "previous album" before TMWStW for clarity.
  • He signed Bowie's. I realize now that I definitely did not make that clear.
  • checkmark Done by requester.
  • No so Defries wanted to become Stevie Wonder's new manager once Wonder's contract with Motown expired once he turned 21. However, Wonder decided to renegotiate his terms with Motown, with greater creative control, so Defries failed at that and turned his full attention to Bowie.
  • checkmark Done by requester.
  • Cann uses "disgruntled" so from my understanding, it wasn't as much "creative differences" but more of the fact that they were both irritated and annoyed. Could I use one of those?
  •  Done. I've left the term in as their feelings toward him seemed very specific, but I adjectivised the noun.
  • According to this edit, it was Mercury Records. Sandford says it was so I'll add that.
  • checkmark Done by requester.
  • Honestly not really. That's one of those instances where I was on a roll to the point I just didn't know when too much was too much. Thanks for changing it.
  •  Done. No worries, I've been in the zone before.
  • It's not. It's important on Duncan's page but definitely holds no relevant context to this album; "Kooks" doesn't even mention "Zowie".
  •  Done. Removed. This tidbit could be or is probably already in Duncan's article.
  • "It Ain't Easy". In fact, the recording of "Almost Grown" at that BBC session was the only documented time Bowie recorded that song; it appears on Bowie at the Beeb but on no studio album.
  •  Done.
  • Just ATMP. Clarified that.
  • checkmark Done by requester.
  • According to Wakeman, he was compelled to.
  •  Done. Leaving as is.
  • A biographer. When expanding, I was doing different sections at different times and because I knew I'd be using the authors' names a lot I didn't know when to use their full name first so I planned on doing that later once everything was done. I apparently never did that so I caused some confusion :-P
  • checkmark Done by requester.
  • Cann doesn't specify. I assume Scott but since Cann doesn't say I didn't want to assume.
  •  Done. Source unclear, fine as is.
  • Same reasoning as above, one of those instances just forgot to go back.
  • checkmark Done by requester.
  • I actually specified who he is in the background section.
  • trout Self-trout. I missed that.
  • Same as above.
  • checkmark Done by requester.
  • No piano. Apparently there's been "confusion" regarding who played piano on "Oh! You Pretty Things" (something I don't think is a massive deal) and according to Wakeman, Bowie played piano at the start but he played piano for the rest.
  •  Done. I was initially confused by whom "he" was referring to. Used the verb "took over" to clarify that "he" is Wakeman and not "Bowie".
  • I sometimes have issues with tense, that's on me. I'll work on that.
  •  Done. Switched tense for you. :)
  • That's on me. I'll fix that.
  • checkmark Done by requester.
  • Yeah that's why I didn't just say "Grace" because he hadn't been discussed in multiple sections.
  •  Done. Left as is.
  • The landlord. Not sure if that info is really relevant tbh.
  •  Done. Removed the RAF mention.
  • Yes so by the time Hunky Dory was released, Bowie had already planned the Ziggy character and the sessions for Ziggy Stardust were underway, hacing started in November. Cann & Pegg don't specify who specifically informed RCA of this but due to this, they didn't know how to market HD, so it was initally a commercial failure.
  •  Done Source does not say, so no extra information added or expected. Rearranged sentence to be less awkward.
  • Yes, Doggett doesn't agree with Bowie's claim here. It could be possible that Bowie didn't know what he was saying because during this time he was so coked out he had no idea what he was doing; for the rest of his life never remembered recording Station to Station. But as it stands, do you think I need this sentence or should I just remove it?
  •  Done. Replaced "this" with "Bowie's claim".
  • Yeah I've done that before in other articles (used "sees" when describing an inanimate thing). I'll reword this as I'm pretty sure that's too close to Pegg's words. I also think I could add more info on "Queen Bitch" as it feels a little light compared to the other tracks.
  •  Done. I've changed the verb to "sings about" and "nod" to "reference".
  • So this quote is something that irks me a lot. It's sourced by the 2000 edition; I own the 2005 edition of Strange Fascination and I for the life of me have not been able to find this quote in the 2005 edition. It must have been removed for the revised edition, most likely to make room to discuss Heathens and Reality. So, I sadly can't answer your question. I really want to remove this sentence because I can't verify it but in the context of the album's legacy, it's very important. I still haven't reformated the ref which surely showcases my hesistance in including it but if you think it should be kept I'll reformat the ref.
  •  Pending. I ask only because I just need to know whether it needs a ((Sic)) tag after it. I have no doubt it is important. So you recalled it by memory?
  • Hi guys, I do own the 2000 edition of Buckley and I can confirm that the typo is there. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 09:36, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I primarily added that info in the lead just to give some small background on who he was. It's probably not necessary to mention Scott's status as a Beatles engineer but I think the fact that he was the engineer for Space Oddity and TMWStW is important as it shows that Scott wasn't an outsider.
  •  Partly done. I've omitted the mention of the Beatles and left in the mention of Scott working on Bowie's previous two albums. Does that work?
  •  Done without further input from requester.
  • Yes it does work.
  • Just in terms of Bowie. Even though he had only released a bunch of singles and three albums (one that most don't count), Hunky Dory was his first record that was pure pop. Space Oddity was folk rock and TMWStW was hard rock so this was very different from the other ones. You can also say that "Queen Bitch" is glam rock, which no doubt was the prelude to Ziggy and Aladdin Sane.
  •  Partly done. You used the word "styles" after "art pop", and I removed it so that only influencing Bowie was clearer. Is it still correct to refer to "art pop" as a general concept, as in "Hunky Dory shifted Bowie's style towards art pop"?
  •  Done without further input from requester.
  • Yeah it's fine. I might change it later when I nominate it for GAN and possibly FAC but we'll see.
  • Mainly just the UK but that also applies to everywhere. It didn't chart at all until the breakthrough of Ziggy. Should I just say "in the UK"?
  •  Partly done. I've added the word "anywhere". What do you think?
  •  Done without further input from requester.
  • Eh idk if I like "anywhere". I might just keep it as "failed to chart" as to me that gets the point across that it was anywhere.
  • checkmark Done by requester. Removed "anywhere".
  • It probably would still work tbh.
* Partly done. I removed the mention of Grace, but I decided to edit what they did with "Star" so that the sentence doesn't end with "of". Would "cover" describe their version accurately, as in "He gave them his future Ziggy Stardust track "Star", from which Chameleon recorded their own unreleased cover"?
  •  Done without further input from requester.
  • Yes that works.
  • Duncan was born on 30 May. Cann writes that Bowie had already been writing "Kooks" at this point for about a year and the birth of Duncan completed it. However, Pegg only says it was written "within days" after Duncan was born, hence it being performed as early as 3 June. Should I add Cann's thought's to specify?
  •  Partly done. How's this look instead: "A few days after Bowie's son Duncan Zowie Haywood Jones was born on 30 May 1971, Bowie completed "Kooks" and dedicated it to him"?
  •  Done without further input from requester.
  • This is definitely embarrassing. Doggett uses Colin Wilson's ideas as a means of tying together the concepts presented in "Quicksand". He does that in long sentences that I didn't want to excessively quote so I tried my best at paraphrasing but I guess that didn't work out. Do you want me to quote Doggett directly here so you can see what I mean and from there determine a better way of wording it?
  •  Partly done. I combined the sentence in question with the one before it and wrapped Doggett's conclusion in quotation marks while attributing it to him. How's it look?
  •  Done without further input from requester.
  • Looks good.
  • Yeah Dylan. Do you think I give too much info for "Song for Bob Dylan"? When researching, I tried to give as much info as I felt was needed to give the reader the full picture but if you think it's too much I can trim some stuff.
  •  Partly done It depends on how the information shapes the song "Song for Bob Dylan". Dylan's influence on Bowie's Space Oddity album isn't relevant to the song, so I think that can be removed (leaving it tentatively for now). I opened up a previous sentence with a colon so that it introduces the idea that the following information is background. I've done a little bit of editing to make the sentence sound nicer; just to be sure, the politicals protests were against the Vietnam War, right?
  •  Done without further input from requester. Removed the mention of Space Oddity.
  • Yeah that's for the best.
  • No idea I'll remove it. Homoerotic could work
  •  Partly done. Rewrote the first clause of the sentence as "Many reviewers have perceived the track to have homoerotic undertones". Does that work?
  •  Done without further input from requester.
  • Yes that works, definitely better wording.
  • No he uses the word "chameleon" in the lyrics. Due to his constant changing of appearances and musical genres throughout his career, music critics came to describe him as a "chameleon".
  •  Partly done. I am assuming that he uses "chameleon" often enough in his songs that critics latched onto it to describe his constant changes.
  •  Done without further input from requester.
  • No this is the only track where Bowie explicitly says the word chameleon (to my knowledge) and in the context of "The Bewlay Brothers" it's not describing himself. Critics called him a chameleon because of his constant changing of appearances. An example of what I mean is this photo here. With almost every album he made, he changed his appearance and since "chameleons" blend in with the environment, critics have pointed out that he's one of the only major artists to change his look constantly. So, critics have dubbed him "the chameleon of rock".
  • checkmark Done by requester.
  • Although it would probably be better to say works rather than work, I mentioned this in the lead just to give some insight as to what the lyrics were about. The lyrics on HD are much less common throughout than say Aladdin Sane, which was all about the sex and drugs Bowie experienced in America. Now, since Crowley and Nietzsche's works are mainly prevalent on "Quicksand", it might be better to say something else? The most notable I can think of would be "Changes", as the lyrics of that song are essentially the theme of Bowie's entire discography. I already mention the tribute songs in the lead so I'm not really sure what else to say.
  •  Partly done. I've specified the influences being attributed to one track, but I'm tentative about leaving it in the lead because it seems to be WP:UNDUE weight.
  • Yeah I don't like the attention "Quicksand" is given. Also, "Oh! You Pretty Things" is influenced by Crowley and Nietzsche as well. I just changed it to "Some of the songs". Might add a bit about "Changes".
  • checkmark Done by requester.
  • It's actually poor paraphrasing on my part of this quote: "The whole Hunky Dory album reflected my newfound enthusiasm for this new continent that had been opened up to me." I'll work on rewording.
  •  Pending. I'll come back to this in a future pass.
  • I removed that bit, as I didn't realize it's already stated in the quote box. Changed to: "In February 1971, Bowie was sent on a promotional tour of America by Mercury Records. After being influenced by diverse musical genres, he was inspired to write three tribute songs for three iconic American artists..." That better?
  • checkmark Done by requester. Works for me!
  • Again, poor paraphrasing on my part. This time it's closer to the words Spitz uses but again, I'll make sure to reword that.
  •  Pending. I'll come back to this in a future pass.
  • Changed to: " Haddon Hall, however, was more comforting and less cluttered. As a result, he composed over three dozen songs there, many of which would..." That better?
  •  Done. Opened up the sentence before "Haddon Hall" with a semicolon so that the attribution carries over.
  • In this wording more of a general concept. I'll see if Cann and/or Pegg specified which studio it was because it definitely wasn't Trident (might have been Radio Luxembourg).
  •  Pending. Waiting on requester to see if a more specific studio can be located.
  • So Pegg doesn't say but according to Cann, Bowie grouped with Pritchett, Cox and Hill at Haddon Hall. But, a few days later, he went to Radio Luxembourg Studios to record demos (but with two new guys) so what to do you think I should say in the context of the sentence currently present? In the context of how I worded it and what Cann says, I think it should be Radio Luxembourg but I'll let you decide.
  •  Done. Still a little ambiguous for my tastes; replaced "the studio" with "studio work" and rewrote the sentence around that.
  • Yes it looks good. Sorry I never responded to this one.
  •  Done.
  • Most likely is, just another case of bad paraphrasing. I'm still working on improving my writing style.
  •  Pending. Will come back to this later. S'all good.
  • Changed to: "Spitz describes it as a piano-driven record that incites a warmer feel compared to its two predecessors." That better?
  • checkmark Done by requester. Looks good!
  • Doggett actually emphasizes the words "about" and "accessing". I also thought the word "lack" should have been emphasized instead but I kept it as he wrote it.
  •  Partly done. Boldly added quotation marks. Please change if they're in the wrong position.
  • Was placed before "was". Fixed that.
  • checkmark Done by requester.
  • It wasn't Pegg nor Doggett. I couldn't find anything saying that on Dylan's own page so just removed it.
  • checkmark Done by requester.
  • Should I reword?
  •  Remark: It depends on if the quote that Melody Maker was gathered from an interview. I'm just assuming that the newspaper had a journalist sit down with Bowie and interview him as opposed to doing something like eavesdropping.
  • checkmark Done by requester.


Looking forward to your responses! —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:25, 31 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Tenryuu Thanks for the ce and comments. I've responded to everything and will continue working on the article when I can, as after today, I'm going to be a lot more busy irl. Thanks again. :-) – zmbro (talk) 01:55, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Zmbro: I've addressed all your replies; some of them require further input on your part. It turns out I actually forgot two questions in my first pass; I have marked them with so if you could answer those that would be great! Hope to hear from you again soon! —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 08:19, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Zmbro, I went ahead with some of the unresolved items. I'll hang around until 00:00 (UTC) tomorrow before I consider the copyedit request complete. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:14, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tenryuu Thanks for the input. Very sorry I haven't been able to do things quicker, things irl have been a bit hectic the past few days. I won't be able to delve into anything until around 00:00 UTC so would you be able to wait til tomorrow to mark it as done? Once I'm available I promise I'll take care of everything and respond to the stuff marked "done without input from the requested". Thanks again for the help and sorry for the slow responses. – zmbro (talk) 17:00, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Tenryuu I believe I have taken care of everything. I've requested your input on a few things. Thanks again! :-) – zmbro (talk) 00:50, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Zmbro: Thanks! I'm going to give it one final lookover before considering the request complete. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:07, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, with that last lookover, I consider the request complete. See you around Zmbro! —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:35, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Ian Rose (talk · contribs) 13:00, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Not actually one of my fave Bowie albums overall but its importance to his career is pretty obvious so I can hardly resist -- give me a few days to read, tweak and review this greatly expanded article. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 13:00, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for taking it on! Yeah it wasn't one of my favs when I started expansion but as I added more and more it grew on me a lot and now it's one of my favorite albums period. After this I'm planning on doing a peer review then taking it to FAC. Thanks again for your help! :-) – zmbro (talk) 14:29, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ian Rose Quick side note: Thanks for trimming down the song info. I had worried that I was being too detailed, especially regarding "Changes". I had primarily taken the info from its song page that I expanded a while ago and was just one of those instances where I was so on a roll that I didn't know when enough was enough. Trim as much as you think is necessary. I thought about adding a little more info on "Queen Bitch" but if you don't think it's necessary I won't. I'd love to know your thoughts. – zmbro (talk) 23:52, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ian Rose Status on this? – zmbro (talk) 16:21, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, after the prose pass I have some comments to add that I've been compiling off-wiki, as well as the sourcing review, so will be another few days possibly. Cheers, 22:20, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Review

Well written

Obviously I've copyedited so generally happy with the prose; one point:

  • Cann doesn't specify this. All Cann says is: "Mick Ronson and Woody Woodmansey are also disgruntled with David and in particular the lack of money (they have never been offered a wage) [the book is written in present tense]. Pegg doesn't talk about it at all so based on that I assume it means they weren't paid for The Man Who Sold the World and they, like Tony Visconti, didn't like Bowie's dismissive attitude during those sessions. What do you think it should be changed to?
  • Well first of all re-using the term "disgruntled" is paraphrasing too closely. I would change the sentence to something like Mick Ronson and Woody Woodmansey, who played guitar and drums respectively on The Man Who Sold the World, and had never been offered steady pay for their performances, also departed. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 11:01, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Reverted back to versions before those strings of edits. – zmbro (talk) 14:01, 26 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Verifiable with no original research
  • Cann took care of VU but not the other thing. I can't find anything supporting it as I must have thought Greene said it. Just removed the Influenced by diverse musical genres part. – zmbro (talk) 19:42, 5 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Nope they don't. Stating the genre for one song will not make or break the page so I ditched it. Saying it's built off a piano riff is just fine imo. – zmbro (talk) 19:47, 5 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • An editor over there said that they couldn't find anything that confirms its professional so tonight I'll remove all the info from them. Although I know for a fact a BBC review I cite mentions how "Queen Bitch" was a precursor to Ziggy so I'll be sure to include that. – zmbro (talk) 19:20, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Far Out has been removed. Didn't add that many essential things anyways. – zmbro (talk) 00:41, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Broad in its coverage

I think the article probably has too many incidental details that more properly belong in the song articles or could be done away with altogether, for instance:

  • I actually think this is a nice fact that could be interesting to readers, as the piano Wakeman used did have some historical importance. Being used on "Hey Jude" would already be enough to signify cultural status but to me the fact that it's used on all of Hunky Dory (the album that is retrospectively described as the turning point in creativity for Bowie) and later "Bohemian Rhapsody" really indicate that it's special. If it was on one song and not the whole album I could understand but since it's the entire album I think it's important. But that's just me.
  • Removed
  • Removed
  • Removed

If you take to peer review or FAC you might also find concerns re. the number and length of quotes. I don't find this a barrier to GA but something to consider. My criteria for quotes are that they should be particularly pithy/insightful, or by someone notable/authoritative, or ideally both -- otherwise best try to paraphrase (but not closely)!

Yeah as I have stated before I figured I went into too much detail with some stuff. I haven't properly written an album article before (mainly just lists and song articles); Bowie is also one of those artists that many biographers (particularly Pegg and O'Leary) that have info for every track he ever recorded so I just didn't know when enough was enough. I do plan to take it to PR after this, especially if you, as an FAC coordinator, think that's what I should do first. :-) – zmbro (talk) 17:35, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral/Stable

No concerns here.

Illustrated

Images appear to be appropriately licensed but I think we have too many of them, leading to sandwiching (at least on my pretty standard laptop screen):

  • Done.
  • Removed Dylan as I see what you mean. I think I wanna keep Warhol so the first half of the side-two section doesn't feel "empty" (partially why I added the "Changes" audio sample to the top awhile back).

Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 01:01, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ian Rose I believe I have taken care of everything. Thanks again for reviewing! :-) – zmbro (talk) 17:47, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ian Rose I worked on rewording earlier this week and I think it's in a much better spot. Do you think anything else needs to be done? I know there are still a few books that need locations and maybe some more rewording but other than that do you think it's about time we get this over with? (Been almost a month now) I have a ton of time this weekend to work on stuff since it's a holiday here in the US so I'm willing to push through any more edits. Thanks again! – zmbro (talk) 23:52, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Zmbro, I should be able to make a further spotcheck this weekend so we can try and wrap up. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 21:48, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, thanks for the changes -- I copyedited a bit, and next will do another round of spotchecks to hopefully finish up. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 02:24, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ian Rose Alright so I think everything should be taken care of. We should be good now but if anything else needs to be done just let me know. :-) – zmbro (talk) 00:42, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Tks Zmbro, as a last thing I ran the copyvio detector and the top three results consisted almost entirely of direct quotes you'd used (and cited) so I don't think there's any reason not to pass this as GA now -- nice work. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 13:22, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ian Rose Thanks so much for reviewing! Hope to hear from you again over at FAC in the near future. :-) – zmbro (talk) 13:50, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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