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There's no intention of self promotion here, but 'straight from the horse's mouth' is a good way to provide basic data. Should anyone wish to edit, fact check etc they are of course welcome to and I'll help in any way I can. However the article was rather scant on information and citations before, which I have attempted to provide. Vandalism is, of course, a concern given various controversies, though I believe including them is evidence of good faith that this is not about self-promotion - JD. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.104.178.128 (talk) 14:24, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
Have done. Given that I mostly just provided citations and links I don't see a problem and again, I ensured to include negative information as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.104.178.128 (talk) 15:08, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
A lot of RPG designers seem to have nicknames. I know that James Desborough gets called James 'Grim' Desborough. But I think it would be good to find a source that confirms this. Better still, it would be good to find a source that explains the story behind the nickname. Big Mac (talk) 22:50, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
The Controversies section of this article is bordering on the "contentious material" zone. I think we need to make sure that it is properly sourced. I've added a second source to back up the first. Big Mac (talk) 23:20, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
Why is there even an article on his guy? He's barely known inside the RPG industry (let alone outside of it), and that isn't for any work he's produced, it's for the deliberately controversial things he posts online in order to try and stir up publicity. danzig138 (talk) 17:27, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
This accusation isn't true, btw. 'Controversial' opinions aren't necessarily held only in order to garner attention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.104.178.128 (talk) 21:50, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
Found an interview with him:
https://argosymagazine.co.uk/2016/11/08/interview-with-rpg-designer-james-grim-desborough/
Can the "needs additional citations" box finally be removed from the article. It's been there for ages and nobody is updating this article. I'm not an experienced wikipedia editor so I don't exactly know how to properly edit his article, but I trust that some of you people are, so you can properly cite the link I provided and remove the box. Hopladamus (talk) 18:07, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
There are more stories about him on Geek Native: https://www.geeknative.com/?s=James+Desborough Hopladamus (talk) 17:31, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
This article relates to a controversial figure, as a result there are legitimate edits being rolled back presumably by someone with a stake in the controversy. 90.255.149.129 (talk) 02:20, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
The edit is factual, Desborough has been accused of war crimes and the reference shows an accusation along with photographic evidence backing up the accusation. You've sent me something about the three revert policy, given that you have reverted my edit 3 times does this mean you'll stop reverting it now? There should be an assumption of good faith in one's fellow editors, it seems you assume some intent in my edits or you would not be reverting them. Do we have to wait for a news source to pick up on someone nobody cares about being accused of things (they won't) or can we state that they were accused? It seems the latter is appropriate here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.255.149.129 (talk) 03:30, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for speedy deletion:
You can see the reason for deletion at the file description page linked above. —Community Tech bot (talk) 21:23, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
Introducing balance to what has been a biased article should not be controversial, the extended quote following the 'misogyny' claims is from the exact same source and provides that balance.
People have copyright to their own image unless specifically giving up those rights in the UK. So far as I am aware those rights have not been signed over as Desborough has used them in various places. Can seek confirmation on this but it should be removed from speedy deletion.
This article has previously been flagged over significance and has passed examination. An Origins Award winner who has worked for the largest companies in the space certainly seems notable, and involvement in various controversies only increases that notability.
Rather than rolling back improvements, make your own improvement such as moving citations or whatever it is you think makes it work better, rather than simply deleting any updates, improvements and modifications to bias that are being done. SivaGoth (talk) 21:47, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
@BubbaJoe123456, know you've been actively involved in this page for a few months. Do you think that the section title for "Career" makes sense here? (the content seems to be all of the place and not follow a coherent flow) Editchecker123 (talk) 05:35, 13 April 2023 (UTC)