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JzG reverted the following edits for reasons of sourcing. I've set forth the reasons for these edits and would appreciate any input as to how they can be made more acceptable. I'd like to discuss each edit separately so we can reach a consensus as to which edits should stay and which shouldn't. I've indented article taxt for ease of reading, and italicized changed words and phrases. --SSBohio 21:50, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
I changed the heading from Kenneth Gourlay to Ken Gourlay. I'm not sure how this was a sourcing issue; I changed it to match how Gourlay is referred to in the following paragraphs and in Berry's quote. --SSBohio 21:50, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
I wikilinked to the article on Camp CAEN to provide more context about how Gourlay brought Berry to Michigan. --SSBohio 21:50, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
I changed
to
I see alleged as the more accurate terminology, since it was an accusation of wrongdoing on Gourlay's part, but it's a very minor point. I also changed the second reference to Berry to read him because saying Berry's name three times in one sentence sounded awkward. --SSBohio 21:50, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
I removed this sentence and put it into a separate paragraph in altered form, since reviewing the sources revealed that the sentences Gourlay received were not accurately divided between the crimes committed against his two victims. The original sentence said:
Having more paragraphs but shorter makes readong easier, and that the importance of Gourlay's criminal trials and convictions is better explained in a separate paragraph. --SSBohio 21:50, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
I created this paragraph, which stated that:
This is a scaled back version of a longer quote. The factual information regarding Berry's addiction & activities has been corroborated by Berry, and Gourlay's quotes come from a letter he wrote. --SSBohio 21:50, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
GenerationQ published this letter from Gourlay before his conviction. If anything, Gorlay's attempt to justify what happened goes far to show that he was plainly wrong in his whole conception of the situation. I read the letter and I came away thinking "Wow, how could he be so blind to what he was doing?" --SSBohio 21:50, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
This corrects an inaccuracy in the original sentence cited to the source below. Previously, it sounded like Gourlay's conviction for molesting the second boy also covered his molestation of Berry. This clarifies what he was convicted of WRT Berry. --SSBohio 21:50, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
This is an Associated Press article on Gourlay's sentencing. A convenience link is provided to a copy stored in a blog. The blog itself is not, however, a source of information, only of a copy of the article. The AP article would be a valid source even without the link. --SSBohio 21:50, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Here, I'm referencing the other molestation case against Gourlay, which only came to light because of Berry's coming forward. --SSBohio 21:50, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
This is a Detroit Free Press article retrieved from their website. --SSBohio 21:50, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
This is a Detroit Free Press article retrieved from their website. --SSBohio 21:50, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
References
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Edited:
Since the extra verbiage didn't add meaning to the sentence, I shortened it. --SSBohio 21:50, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
These all come from GenerationQ (website), an Australian LGBT online magazine. --SSBohio 21:50, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Wow, this article is still being Whitewash (censorship)? I'd expect after all this time for there to be a little objectivity. 75.16.113.54 (talk) 18:40, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Somebody please Cover this article with an unbiased nature. If you want to know the truth: http://www.wikitruth.info/index.php?title=Uncensored:Justin_Berry —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.134.87.136 (talk) 00:29, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
The following external links I moved from the grossly bloated EL section. Per WP:ELNO point 1, these sources should either be integrated into the main body of the text or deleted (if they can't be integrated, what do they add to the page?) The EL section isn't a holding area for possible references, that's the talk page. Even the titles are repeating information in the case of the DFP and LSJ articles. WLU (t) (c) (rules - simple rules) 17:14, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
A discussion about his mysterious death and lack of reliable sources was had in December 2020 and can be found at WP:RSN in the archives under the section title "Death of Justin Berry / User:JustinBerry" .. probably will end up in "/Archive 321" or somewhere around there. -- GreenC 17:06, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
It seems odd to describe giving testimony before the a U.S. House committee as having "appeared on C-SPAN" in the "Media Appearances" section. While the event may have been broadcast on C-SPAN, it would not be considered a media appearance.
Considering this information is repeated in more detail and with more context in the more appropriate section "Interviews and Congressional testimony", shouldn't the entire sentence be removed? Sentence in question: "Berry, Eichenwald and Gourlay appeared on C-SPAN, giving testimony before the Oversight and Investigations Subcommittee of the United States House Committee on Energy and Commerce."
After re-reading the article, it seems odd to me to have the Oprah interview mentioned in the "Interviews and Congressional testimony" section yet mentioning other interviews in the "Media Appearances" section. I think the Oprah interview should be moved to the "Media Appearances" section, and perhaps the other section could be renamed "Congressional Testimony". Prunenoveggie (talk) 08:04, 12 June 2022 (UTC)