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Should Breivik be on here or are we waiting for his conviction? 96.50.10.234 (talk) 14:35, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
Per the discussion at TalK:List of rampage killers (Americas), WP:BLP policy mandates that living individuals marked as 'arrested' on this list be removed. If sourcing can be found to indicate that the individual concerned was subsequently convicted, they may of course be returned to the list, with the appropriate citation. I shall be making these edits shortly, and sugest that anyone having further information on these individuals adds it now. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:36, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
Russia may be part of Eurasia, but it's not really part of Europe, so why is it included as part of the Europe list? 173.24.66.108 (talk) 12:45, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
"Dembsky Vladimir" named Włodzimierz Dąmbski, and he killed not 13 peoples, but only 3: http://curioza.blogspot.com/2014/02/1904-szalony-hrabia.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zaciekawiony (talk • contribs) 16:11, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
I got a couple of new entries for this list. I dare not enter them myself.
1. France 2013: 3 killed by fully automatic rifle. http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/udland/tre-draebt-af-teenager-i-frankrig
2. Netherlands 1999: 10 shots fired, 4 wounded at a school. (last section of article) http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/udland/tidligere-elev-anholdt-skudtrussel-i-holland— Preceding unsigned comment added by Lukan27 (talk • contribs) 10 March 2016, 8:12 (UTC)
The story of Peter Grachev seems dubious to me, I can't find anything in Russian to suggest this individual existed or anything like the events described ever happened. The sources given are either provincial American newspapers or actually seem to have taken their story from such papers (i.e. the Western Mail story is sourced from the San Francisco Examiner) and seem to me to be pretty unreliable. In addition only two are actually accessible. Reading the actual report in the Toledo News-Bee doesn't do much to allay suspicion. The report is sensational i.e. 'he became ominously quiet, merely muttering occasionally "Just wait and see; I'll get even with everybody". None took the old man seriously.' Also it is presented as being in response to communist land redistribution and, in my opinion, might well be fabricated "red scare" propaganda. If anything like this did occur (and the American press got to somehow hear of it) it seems reasonable there might be something in Russian out there on the internet about this guy but I can't find any record of him at all. I'm going to do a bit more searching but if there aren't better more credible sources I'm going to delete this as a piece of fiction. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.185.145.214 (talk) 01:32, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
I appreciate that the silence of the Russian language press might be expected to a degree, and it is difficult to determine via the internet if indeed it was in fact silent at the time. The USSR of 1925, although press censorship and propaganda was to be expected, was not as repressive as the Stalinist system which evolved later and I would expect a degree of lassitude would have existed to enable such a story to have been covered. Indeed a counter argument might be made that it may have been "good" propaganda to paint the opponents of land redistribution as homicidal maniacs. As to the fact the story was reprinted internationally I don't think that this makes a conclusive case for its validity, many erroneous stories have been diffused worldwide, indeed with regards to the USSR you only have to look at the story of the "K-1000" battleship to see how misinformation can be spread. The USSR was not the only party indulging in cold war propaganda or its 1925 analogue and I hardly think it is unimaginable that a peice of imaginative anti-Bolshevik propaganda dreamt up in one newspaper might have grown "arms and legs". I have seen a good few other 'facts' about the USSR of this period in the English language be found to be baseless after research in Russian (or just looking at Russian wikipedia). As I have said before I am not discounting entirely that this happened, but I would much rather have some indication from a Russian source that there is something substantive behind this tale. You mention Korshunov and Surovtsev and I agree that in the West they are entirely unknown but there is a page in Russian on this very site about their attack, and plenty of other references to it across the internet in Russian. Frankly I find it odd that a massacre of such a scale would not return a single result or trace in any search on multiple search terms I have made across various search engines in the Russian language. As it seems to have support in the international press of the day perhaps deletion is not appropriate but I feel some sort of acknowledgement of the paucity of good evidence for this event should be attached to it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.185.145.214 (talk) 23:15, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
After a lot of tedious searching through old issues of Soviet newspapers I can confirm the honour of the Toledo News-Bee and sundry other outlets is upheld. Although it entirely seems to have escaped the modern Runet the issue of Izvestiya for 31st June 1925 does have this story in it. This is the date of the report but the actual date of the attack was the 26th. It appears to have happened in the Ivankovo of Sudislavsky district but aside from that the reports I can find add little detail other than a mention of him "sending his wife away" and "burning all his possessions" prior to the attack. There is also an assertion all but one house in the village was destroyed and only one horse was left alive in addition to the 17 dead villagers. It is worth noting however that in a later issue (12th Aug) the number of dead is given as 10 (6 villagers shot dead in the initial attack, one rescue worker (presumably a fireman) and three wounded villagers who later died from their wounds), and the figure of wounded is given as 10 (including those who later died). In addition 14 houses are now described as having been destroyed. Unfortunately there is no way of telling which set of figures is nearer the truth of the matter, and arguments could be made for either. Grachev is described as having voluntarily surrendered to the authorities after having spent some undetermined time on the run, but aside from mention of a trial in a September issue there is little indication in the contemporary Russian reports I can (so far) find of his ultimate fate.
I am therefore satisfied this is a genuine case but I will try to see if any clarity might be obtained on the details, I expect the foreign press took the figure of 17 dead from the initial Soviet report and there is probably no way of determining now (short of perhaps trawling the official archives of the Kostroma region itself, which sadly I can't do) of unequivocally resolving one way or another if the initial or later reported totals are accurate. The one thing I will alter at present is the date which seems to be slightly wrong, understandably the foreign press seems to have used the date at which the news seems to have been reported in the USSR but from what I can find in Russian it seems that the massacre happened on the 26th as stated above. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.185.145.214 (talk) 00:51, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
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Andrey Shpagonov needs to be added. Lightiggy (talk) 01:44, 2 February 2022 (UTC)