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OK, we're going to have a proper discussion about this rather changing it back and forth. Now, I changed it from "Described as 'misty' and 'silvery'" to "Unknown (described as 'misty' and 'silvery,')" because the fact it is described as such doesn't change the fact we simply have no idea what color it is.
Well, page 199 (Canadian edition) quotes the following:
"He could see the bat-winged horses reflected in her wide, silvery eyes."
Then, page 863 quotes the following:
"“No,” said Luna, observing him with those oddly misty, protuberant eyes."
Now I'm no expert, but those two qualifiers (to me at least) paint a pretty good picture of Luna's eye colour. A pale gray, giving her eyes that distinctly silvery hue. I can't think of any other colour that would generate that description.
Harry may wear glasses, but he's not colour blind. If he describes someone's eyes as "silvery," then they are silvery. As long as that word is placed in quototations, then it is canon fact. I'm afraid Ron's eyes are the only major mystery.
That doesn't change the fact that "silvery" isn't a color. Look it up in a dictionary;
Obviously, Luna's eyes fall into the second definition, which means "resembling silver in color or luster." However, I'm fine with the way the page is now.
Anyone think this picture is a good choice? I realize we don't have much supply of good ones, but I hate to make people think Harry Potter is some kind of anime. Friday 03:47, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
I notice someone tried another picture, and it was reverted on the grounds that it didn't make Luna look attractive enough. I don't recall anything in the books suggesting that Luna is particular attractive. I personally liked the picture here better than the anime-looking one that's here now. But I agree that fan art is probably unneccessary. Friday 13:22, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
I have to disagree with the current choice of picture--the one by Leela Starsky. It isn't that far departed from canon and does represent her more honestly than some of the work out there, even though the eyes are obviously the wrong colour and her eyebrows are thin and dark instead of pale, but it's still a fan-ish version (and personally creeps the bejeebes out of me). I don't see why we can't stick with the Grand-Pre version, which although comes from the U.S., is more befitting because it is the most widely recognized image. I hope this is not the image that is being referred to as "anime," because I can guarantee you that it most certainly is not.
Someone change the picture NOW. The current one almost made me have a seizure I was so scared. It needs help, but not the anime one. Now if you will excuse me, I have to go take a tranquilizer to get that image out of my brain. --Lord Voldemort (Dark Mark) 13:13, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
I know a very talented fan-artist whose depictions are pretty loyal to canon and I might try to appeal to her regarding this matter sometime during next week. Her Harry Potter looks much more like Harry Potter than Daniel Radcliffe does, that's for sure. I wouldn't be surprised if she were to politely refuse, though- she's pretty busy and the fogginess of Wikipedia in regards to copyright is likely to be a problematic factor- so don't get your hopes up. --AceMyth 05:56, August 5, 2005 (UTC)
Hi all, I've found two wonderful artworks that I think depict the quintissential spirit of Luna Lovegood:
I think either one would make a lovely pic for the subjet (I definitely have to agree with those who found the previous one slightly creepy)
[4] here. Add the proper license and then we can use it.PiccoloNamek 03:40, September 1, 2005 (UTC)
How about you just give me her name and I can enter the proper copyright license in the picture's page. Also, did she agree to license this under the GFDL? Or what? Perhaps you should also give us her e-mail address so we can confirm this.PiccoloNamek 22:23, September 1, 2005 (UTC)
Tealin is the greatest Harry Potter fan artist I have ever come accross, you can find her at http://www.nocturnalsoldier.org/Tealin/ One of the greatest things about her is that she does traditional, Disney-style animation, which really captures most of the characters (particularly Harry and Lupin). To me, it is jarring and uncomfortable to see Harry Potter characters drawn in an anime style. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to understand how to upload pictures onto here, so if someone else wanted to do it for me, I'd be much obliged...
Anyone know what happened to nebulean's artwork?? It seems to have vanished yet there's no mention of it having been deleted in the history section...
I see that there is a picture of the actress for the OotP movie at the page on her. Shouldn't this go in the Luna Lovegood infobox, at least until we get actual movie screenshots? -Phi*n!x 20:01, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Which characters are so unlike their film counterparts? --Lord Voldemort (Dark Mark) 14:40, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
"Though her blood purity is never straight-foward, it is quite obvious she is pure blood. It does not seem that a muggle would be the editor of the Quibbler and she marked her mother as an extraordinary witch, therefore, she is pure-blood."
How do we know her mother was pure-blood? Muggle-borns can be extraordinary too, just look at Hermione. I think this line should be removed, as it is pure speculation. Is it ever specifically stated that her mother was pure blood? Is her father pure-blood? Can we verify that she had no muggle blood whatsoever in her heritage? Rowling said that to be considered pure-blood, one's grandparents must have all been wizards. Can we verify this?
It all just seems like it's on shaky ground to me.PiccoloNamek 18:56, July 30, 2005 (UTC)
I don't think it's racist considering that it has nothing at all to do with race and only pertains the age of the magical bloodline. I am not sure as to the particulars of blood heritage, but before you can say "pureblood" you have to prove that at the very least her grandparents, let alone great grandparents and those before them, were magical as well. Factually, where we stand now we do not have this information, and can thus only state what we know, which is that her parents are of magical heritage (or at least her father seems to be--though it is still possible that he is a squib).
I agree that Luna's blood heritage can not be determined conclusively based on the information given to us so far. As others have mentioned, muggles can be extraordinary wizards, two very important characters prove this: Hermione and Lily, Harry's mom. Also, I know this question may seem ridiculous, but have we ever been told specifically that Luna's father is a wizard, or have we all assumed that he is because he is completely immersed in the wizarding world? I'll go check OoTP. Madelinerock 04:11, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
A user has set it to unknown probably pure blood I was under the impression we were leaving it to unknown. Do we have a problem with this answer? I think maybe we should have a note that says to see the part on her parentage? --Shimonnyman 04:50, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
There's no evidence that she is "Probably" pure blood. I think it should be changed back.PiccoloNamek 04:54, September 5, 2005 (UTC)
Maybe we should put "Unknown, could be of any lineage?" Just my two cents...Marira 06:51, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
I made a minor change on the page in the "family background" section, where it was said that Luna was either Full-Blood or Half-Blood. I changed Full-Blood to Pure-Blood, because the later is the by far more common term in the books, and I'm not even sure if Full-Blood is used in Canon at all. - Sebastian
At the moment (20:41 February 3, the article says "Probably either pure-blood or half-blood"...well, obviously! I'm changing it to Unknown. --Gary Kirk (talk) 20:41, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
Richard Harris is perfect! He's te first actor, right? Well, isn't Dumbledore assumed to be over a centure old? He's supposed to look really old, that's the amazing part about him. he's so old, and looks so frail, and yet in reality, he's not. he talks exactly like Dumbledore should talk and exactly the way I picture he talks when I read the books. Gambon is too fast, too energetic to believe he's such an old man.
I think the article could use some structuring. I haven't had the courage to read through it for lack of organization and headers. Circeus 19:58, August 13, 2005 (UTC)
Luna is portrayed by 14 year-old Evanna Lynch from Termonfeckin in Co. in Ireland and goes to Cartown National School. She got the role from 15,000 girls at an open audition in London.
...and a necklace made of butterbeer caps.
That sounds misleeding to me. A cap is a LOT more general than "cork", which my UK version of OotP uses (and I'm sure it's mentioned in HBP as well). I see no reason not to use the word the book uses. Okay to change it to cork?
The American version definitely says caps, but if the UK version says something different we should use that, I think.PiccoloNamek 16:13, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
Since no one has opposed the change, I've altered the three instances of caps to corks.--Cyberdude93 23:21, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
This may sound like a stupid question, but wouldn't wizards be more inclined to use real corks anyway instead of ordinary bottlecaps? It seems to fit in more with the medieval theme, albeit they must have some sort of mass manufacturing centres for their goods.
To be honest, I don't like this paragraph, mostly because I doubt it's encyclopedic value. While it is true, that countless fanfictions exist with the Harry/Luna pairing, the same can be said about almost every pairing in the books. I think the paragraph should be deleted, but I'm asking here, if somebody sees some interesting informations in this paragraph that I don't.
I did already delete one sentence, namely this one:
"There are rumors from London that Harry might forge a relationship with Luna in the course of the 7th and last book of the series; we'll just have to see."
First of all, which rumours and by whom? I didn't hear any rumours regarding this topic, and I'm someone who is pretty involved in the Potter-Fandom. I think at least a specific source would be necessary to keep this information. Also, I really don't know who in London should have enough information about the content of book 7 anyway. I highly doubt even JKR's publishers know something about this right now. What the biggest Potter authority, JKR herself, said, is pretty straightforward: She developed Ginny in Harry's ideal girlfriend. Yes, they broke up, but that was because Harry wanted to protect her, not because they aren't in love anymore. I'm not a big Ginny fan. I like Luna both as a character and as a possible girlfriend for Harry much better. But I see no reason to post these "rumours" if everything in canon points against them and for Harry/Ginny. - Sebastian
Luna doesn't have a love life. This section is misspelt crap:
"At the start of Order of the Phoenix when Luna and the others where on the train she seems to take a liking to Ron. She Laughs at Ron's "babbon backside" joke harder than anyone, this making a first sign that she fancies Ron. Later, Luna put's away the Quibbler and takes to "staring at everyone else" and stares at Ron as though he was a "mildly interesting television program" this is another sign (Note: JKR didn't describe how she was looking at Hermione, Harry, Neville or Ginny). Later, at the quidditch match, Luna has made a hat with a lion on it which roars like the real thing, Ron is impressed, then Hermione kisses Ron on the cheek (smart move, this means that Hermione is jealous of Ron and retaliates by kissing him). In Half-Blood Prince Luna is seen on the train with Harry and Neville, here is we first learn that she has had no friends (this is one of the most touching things in the book), she also thanks Harry for saying that she is "cool". Later, she is found helping Hermione after Ron did a nasty impression of her jumping up with her hand every five seconds, here, after Hermione has left, he asks Luna to come with him to Slughorn's Party and would love to go to it "as friends" (Note: Luna becomes slightly softer to Harry in this book), Later, Ron makes a positive comment about Luna saying that she has "grown" on him. (Note: Luna might fancy Ron doesn't like Luna, Ron clearly fancies Hermione although Luna doesn't seem Jealous of Hermione)"
Njál 19:54, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
I don't think luna likes Ron. I mean, she stared at him, mildly interested after he insulted her somewhat. She laughed harder, you guys cant seem to understand, becasue she laughs like that. I laugh like that. She laughs easily at good jokes. Luna was supporting gryffindor, not ron, and besides, look at her only ther choice: Slytherin. I'd be voting for Gryffindor too, wouldn't you? You're looking in too deep at simple lines. i don't think j.K. meant for us to assume she likes Ron. She meant for us to assume she is strange, or as Ronald puts it, Bonkers. But that's not very nice. ;D
Luna doesn't have a love life, although personally I would love to see her with Harry. Not affectionate, just with him. But I doubt J.K. is going to give Luna a love life... she's too bonkers. Still not very nice, but it's true. Ta! Luna storm 20:15, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
I think Luna and Neville would be pretty cute together. They were together on the train in HBP and Luna was helping Neville into a chair at Dumbledore's funeral. The two are both unpopuler and miss DA the most. Maby their just friends, maby not. I did read somewhere that JK squashed this theory, but I still think they should get together. Ron and Luna just don't fit together, Ron is probaly going to go for Hermione. Anyway, remember when Harry asks Luna out Ron says, "You could've chosen any girl but you chose Loony Lovegood?" Also, when Ron got peeved about Hermione and tried to make her jelous, he chose to make out with Lavender, not Luna.
Yeah JK made it clear that Luna and Neville are not going to be a couple. When reading Ootp i had a suspiscion that Harry and Luna might hit it off, but then in HBP when he got Ginny, I remember how they can trade jokes with just their eyes, and it was perfect. As for Luna and Ron...well...wouldn't you be impressed if someone had just shown up with a roaring lion mask on their heads? --Leemorrison 12:50, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
I don't think we should have a picture of Evanna Lynch in the head of this article, at least not until photos of her in costume appear. This might give a reader the impression that Luna looks like this, which isn't correct. The photo should be moved to the bottom of the article for now.
There's been a small revert war going on about the necklaces. Some editors say they're turnips, some say they're radishes. I looked, and in the American edition of the book, it says radish - does the British edition say something else? Stev0 14:25, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
The British edition says radishes, I'm quite sure of that. I'm from Northern Ireland, so I assume we get the same version as in the rest of the UK. --Leemorrison 12:54, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
In the name section it said that Luna means moon in Latin, and Spanish; which is true. But it also means moon in Italian, so rather than rattling off a couple of Latin-based languages with the same word for moon I think that it should only say, 'means moon in latin.' Since the other languages are derived from Latin. ABart26 21:16, 30 July 2006 (UTC)