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I hope this is fiction. Are there any details available? --KF 22:28, 26 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Two quick notes, until I get time to work on the article:
—Paul A 05:15, 2 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Supposedly, Detective 225 is the "official" start date for DC's Silver Age. ("I'm going to practise an ancient Martian meditation technique." "I know where you can get a ton of Oreos.") Trekphiler 09:48, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
We should not be using this until it is first publishes. Patience...--Chris Griswold 17:19, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Why is he called a "manhunter?" Jackbox1971 03:23, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
I vaguely recall reading/hearing that, back on Mars, he J'onn was part of the "Manhunter" caste, the Martian equivalent of detectives/cops/bounty hunters. So, in a way, it's like RoboCop (he's a Robot, and a Cop; J'onn is a Martian and a Manhunter). Dr Archeville 13:10, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
He is called Martian Manhunter because he is a Martian from Mars and a Manhunter on his home planet was someone who seeks knowledge. So that is why he is called Martian Manhunter. Martian Manhunter 12:49, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
I just noticed that this article is missing the Power and abilites section that most other comics characters have. Somebody want to add it? CovenantD 14:38, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
I don't think his Power levels are right. I remember that in NEW WORLD ORDER in his fight with Protex, Superman states that away from fire Martians are as strong as tough and as fast as him --Jacenskylo 21:36, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
According the wiki article on Marvel's Captain Ultra (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Ultra), Ultra is a parody of of MM. I didn't see any citation to this and was wondering if this is one of those "common knowledge" things that ain't so common. I would think that in order to be a parody, there would have to be more than one parallel. Jackbox1971 00:53, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
In what context did MM tell Superman that he is impervious to flame, just not "flames of passion"? --Chris Griswold 13:27, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
The common mistake with Martian Manhunter is that his weakness is fire. I am a HUGE fan of the big MM and his weakness is not just plain old fire. Martian Manhunter's entire race died from due to his brother Mafic. So when he looks into the flames, if he sees his family and his race "burning" it is unbearable for him. So that is his true weakness, it’s not like you can just take out a lighter and take down one of DC greatest heros. Martian Manhunter 12:46, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
The Brave New World image is not the Martian Manhunter it is a picture of the "other" surviving green Martian as indicated by the story's text. --Basique 00:13, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
I remember a team-up (probably in the early 70's) featuring Superman & Martian Manhunter where they are another planet and Martian Manhunters powers were diminished. Was this a one-shot deal by a writer that didn't know the character? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.162.45.98 (talk) 23:22 July 11, 2006
The common mistake with Martian Manhunter is that his weakness is fire. I am a HUGE fan of the big MM and his weakness is not just plain old fire. Martian Manhunter's entire race died from fire due to his brother Mafic. So when he looks into the flames if he sees his family and his race "burning" it is unbearable for him. So that is his true weakness, it’s not like you can just take out a lighter and take down one of DC greatest heros. Martian Manhunter 12:46, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
You know nothing! The character's weakness is fire. The stuff with his brother wasn't made up until the late nineties and MM not having a weakness to fire didn't pop up until after 1987!
In the late seventies there were stories with J'onn teaming up with other heroes (his solo appearances having been cancelled in the sixties) and in some it was revealed that on Mars or on Mars II his powers are diminished, just as other Martians lack the full powers that J'onn found he had on earth. Blue Spider 07:14, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
... I thought we were talking about present Martian Manhunter when i posted my input on october 25. I don't know much about his early apperances (i know i am ashamed : ( but i am slowly collecting any comic he has appeared in to read) (Martian Manhunter 02:42, 1 January 2007 (UTC))
Can we please pick a main image for this character and stick with it? I guess it doesn't really matter, but it's just that this keeps being changed back and forth for no reason other than personal preference. Personally, I like the current one, but that's neither here nor there.Jayunderscorezero 13:23, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Sorry I forgot to include an edit summary. I changed the pic because the last one had been deleted from Wikipedia and was no longer available. CovenantD 13:39, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Eep, my bad. Sorry, I just saw that it had been changed a lot of time in recent history and jumped to conclusions. Sorry.Jayunderscorezero 13:06, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
I don't think the current statement about super-speed is right. Didn't one of the White Martians race the Flash, with superspeed running and "vibration" tricks? That looked a lot like super speed to me. TheronJ 13:08, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm inclined to agree also. Zum(the white Martian) as he was called clearly used super-speed. I'm not sure where this list of powers comes from. --Ozoneliar 13:08, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm no expert on the character, but Daniels' DC Comics credits Mort Weisinger with creating him. Can anybody confirm or refute? Trekphiler 10:01, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
I believe that Martian Manhunter had a strong relationship with the Green Flame. Does anyone know what happened to the relationship that would cause the Green Flame to dislike Martian Manhunter? (Was it the death of Ice)
I know this can't be in the article, but it'll make some of you laugh. ToyFare reviewed a MM toy and said "Like the real Martian Manhunter this figure is vulnerable to fire. He's also vulnerable to hammers."216.191.40.149 00:40, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Would people please stop the back and forth with Smallville. Either cite a source (hint: the original article URL) or give it a rest. --Jason Kirk 23:15, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
The source quoted for the martian manhunter being chloe sullivan doesnt check out and i cant find any other reliable sources to this end so im removing it.
And this is why in Wikipedia there is that overriding need for Reliable Sources. Allowing the CW to use us as their marketing organ makes us look stupid when they change their minds or get it compleltely wrong.Arcayne 15:12, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, for sure, but I am sure that that is in the interest of conserving space. Please refer to the folks who, you know, actually created the character, hmm? Or how about the site that faithfully serves as a repository for the DC comic universe?[4] or how about the WP entry for him, wherein he is called THE Martian Manhunter. Seriously man, this is elementary school grammar.Arcayne 15:29, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
I think it is better to better spend out time finding reliable sources for citation, instead of arguing over the use of a definitive article. And since he has not been identified by a reliable, mainstream source as the Martian Manhunter, we are not going to make that leap for them. On the flip-side, sparky.Arcayne 15:42, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Well, adter doing a little more research, it appears that both Martian Manhunter and the Martian Manhunter are used equally, the former distinguished as different from terms like, the Batman or the Creeper or the Hulk. The most relevent source of canon for the topic is the currently-running DC series, Martian Manhunter. He is referred to without the definitve article; therefore, I yield this particular point. Martian Manhunter it is. I will revise the article accordingly.Arcayne 16:50, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Should we move him to J'onn Jonzz? I think so. Brian Boru is awesome 00:13, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Actually he is more commonly known as THE Martian Manhunter. I'm not sure why folks feel the need to drop the definitive article there. It sounds like we are starring in a 1940's Cowboys n' Indians movie.Arcayne 15:15, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
There needs to be an explanation of the manhunter name in the article
Now that there's more than one, shouldn't we go and make a real page for Green martians?--Marhawkman 00:37, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
I am noticing in some articles that when a character appears in other media, they denote the type of media (like animation, etc.). I think that is better than creating a new header for one piece of information (referring to The Batman animated series here). If no one has any complaints, I would like to consolidate a lot of the appearances under other media. I am thinking putting the animated stuff together, the television series appearances... ...and of course the Face on Mars. Just kidding about that last one.Arcayne 06:14, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
Since J'onn's mini-series ended shouldn't his page be updated to tell about all of the events that happened in it?RyuKlinge 04:40, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Why Should it be Brief? shouldn't people if they are looking up J'onn they should know what happened to him. RyuKlinge 01:55, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Ok being concise I agree with, as long as we get the main points of the series and what J'onn went through in it. RyuKlinge 21:11, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
No need for a separate page for Green Martians. They aren't really a major element apart from J'onn himself. CovenantD 21:27, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
I came up with this theory that J'onn might be the Black King of Checkmate, Taleb Beni Khalid, I was wondering should I post anything about on here, or wait till there is something actually shown about it? RyuKlinge 09:38, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
1. Martian Manhunter at the end of his Mini said he is going to be working with heroes who work Outside the lines, with Outside being capitalized, that means Outsiders and I doubt it is a coincidence that Martian Manhunter and Checkmate are both going to be working with the Outsiders.
2. When I asked Ben Morse (who works at Wizard) about what Martian Manhunter will appear next in and he said this: Martian Manhunter has some very interesting stuff coming up this summer involving not one but two DC titles.
3a. J'onn in 52 Week # 24, disguised himself as a member of the Cabinet working undercover for 6 months and had the President ban Checkmate from the U.S. to avenge Ted Kord, later in the same issue, the U.N. Reinstated it. I believe J'onn trying to destroy Checkmate still he would go undercover in the New Checkmate.
3b. Also at the end of the Martian Manhunter Mini there was a new character brought in that was a White Martian named Till'All and they actually worked together and became friends, so he could be Shen Li Po, the Black Knight's Bishop.
4. Ok these things deal with things in Issue # 12 of Checkmate, so I am putting spoilers here: In today's issue Taleb talks with Fire and says that he recruited her because of her being a Superhero, and J'onn worked with Fire as a superhero and would know her skills.
5. More stuff from Issue #12: A: At the end of the issue, Amanda Waller says that the Last Royal who crossed her had the power of the Starheart, what can you do? to Taleb, and J'onn has stronger powers then Alan Scott, especially with Telepathy to be able to be 3 steps ahead of Waller. B. The Way Taleb looked at the end of the issue after the conversation with Waller looks like kind of Martian Manhunter type of pose and gave me a J'onn type of vibe to it. Same thing with his voice talking to Fire seemed exactly like how the J'onn sounds, it gave me the same kind of vibe.
6. No more spoilers, now anyways I was looking up Arabic Names and learned that Taleb means Seeker of Truth, and J'onn being a Detective, a Manhunter is a Seeker of Truth, also Khalid means Eternal/Immortal and J'onn has a long life span and seems Eternal, I haven't been able to find what Beni means.
that is all the evidence I have to it, and also that Greg Rucka himself wouldn't confirm or Deny the theory. RyuKlinge 19:06, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Does this count: http://images.newsarama.com/dcnew/Oct07/4/CHECK_Cv19_solicit.jpg ? Kairos 10:22, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
In the episode "The Joining Part One", he DOES show density changing (when he flies through the side of the building) and invisibility (briefly after Batman catches him with the electrified net), so I am changing this section. Nda98 20:40, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
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I removed the following sections from the article, as it is largely uncited information, and seems full of OR assumptions and OR by synthesis. It cannot remain in the article until referfenced appropriately by a secondary source.
- Meaning of the name
- The reason why J'onn uses the "Martian Manhunter" as his superhero moniker has been explored many times. In his original detective stories, he is simply referred to as "The Manhunter from Mars." and Manhunter is simply another term for detective. However, superhero comics became more prominent and the manhunter was retconned into them. Decades later, the term was explained more thoroughly: Manhunters were the police force on Mars, and J'onn was a prominent member. Therefore, "Martian Manhunter" is akin to saying "Chicago Detective" or "United States federal agent". In one 2006 issue of Justice League of America a White Martian refers to Batman as a Manhunter.
- Arcayne (cast a spell) 18:33, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
As well, the trivia section was removed from the article (and placed here) because trivia sections are a Bad Thing. It's placement here allows for relevant pieces to be integrated into the article as they can be worked in.
- Trivia
- In other languages:
- J'onn's daughter K'ymm is named for Kim Yale.[citation needed]
- From 1963 to 1968, Manhunter briefly had a small orange-skinned speech-challenged alien partner from another dimension named Zook, whom he found on an island. Zook had the power to change temperatures and shapeshift his body, though not his color. At first the speechless Zook was his pet. As Zook learned speech, he later became Manhunter's partner, helping him solve several cases. After his final appearance in House of Mystery #172 (1968), Zook vanished from the series and DC continuity altogether with no explanation. Zook bore a striking similarity to Cryll, the alien partner of fellow DC character Space Ranger. As of Superman/Batman #31, he has reappeared. John Ostrander's series homaged the character by showing J'onn's costume to be made from a Martian shapeshifting plant called a Zo'ok.
- One of J'onn's alternate identities was that of a female Japanese journalist Hino Rei. The name is an in-joke, sharing a similarity to that of a character from the Sailor Moon anime series, also known as Sailor Mars. Surprisingly, Batman recognised the name, telling J'onn that it was "a giveaway". [5]
- Arcayne (cast a spell) 14:31, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
She has her own page, being a current/active member of the teen titans. And her page has a link to this one. I'm at least going to put a link to her page(since their is no "see also" section).
Kairos 08:28, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
There was an appearance of a green skinned alien in a magazine about 6 months before the new Flash ushered in the Silver Age. I cannot recall where I read that, but maybe I will try. Jokem 04:06, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
The main picture is cool but I think it should be replaced. It doesn't represent MM as everyone knows him, a big bald green dude with a red 'bikini' (yes, I went there) top and blue trunks. He could be any color under that blue jumpsuit. Lots42 21:48, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
- Movie
- The Martian Manhunter will be featured in the direct-to-video animated movie Justice League: The New Frontier. The film will focus heavily on J'onn.
- He also will be intriduced in George Miller's movie : Justice League of America in 2009.
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