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Hi, I'm unsure why you've [DeFacto] reverted my edit wholesale as controversial and requiring citation. The original content was not sourced and made some extraordinary claims about the daily use of non-metric units here in Ireland outside my lived experience of 34 years.
It's difficult to source relevant citations without resorting to fairly irrelevant links to journalism featuring people using metric units for height and weight, property sites which all exclusively use metric units, government grant forms list area in hectares.
There have been no academic studies I can find into common use of metric units which examines generational difference. Yet the article as it currently reads is at odds with my own and my peers use of metric units for all of the mentioned uses.
Can you make any suggestions?
Cros13 (talk) 00:51, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
(moved here from my talkpage. -- DeFacto (talk). 06:03, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
verifiable, reliably sourced and balancedand gave every appearance of being
based solely on an editors personal experience or opinion. 92.19.29.209 (talk) 16:33, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
Recent edit: "However, by 2020, the Irish plumbing industry has almost completely migrated to the same Metric pipework standards (EN 1057) as used in the UK and across the European Union."
I've a major problem in believing this. There is not a shadow of a doubt in my mind that 99% of plumbing in Ireland is imperial and I see no evidence at all of this changing. The UK went metric in 1972 and made it law. The Irish government went for protectionism/not-doing-anything-as-usual and we all pay 20% more for materials as a result. This why I said in my first edit that the only metric plumbing you'll find in Ireland is that put in when buying in bulk from the UK was far cheaper (ie: in the boom years, when we were told to "shop around" but "not in the North").
The closest builders providers to me is Grange in Baldoyle. If I ask for 22mm pipe I'll get 3/4", in copper or plastic. In metre lengths of course because the EU mandates that quantities be metric. More to the point, I can't actually buy 22mm pipe from them. I can from Screwfix (online shopping/broadband is another Irish government failure).
Carpet is priced in square yards supplied in metre widths. Underlay in mm x square feet. etc etc. Plywood is 8 x 4 foot so 1220mm x 2440mm. Plasterslabs are 8' (2440)x 1200, and concrete boards are 1200x2400mm. And so it goes on.
After doing some research, it turns out your statement about pipe diameter still being in inches is correct, so the section you were referring to should be edited.
Unofficialwikicorrector (talk) 03:13, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
There are no citations or any evidence to prove this claim: "Distance signs had displayed kilometres since the 1970s but road speed limits were in miles per hour until January 2005, when they were finally changed to kilometres per hour." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unofficialwikicorrector (talk • contribs) 03:11, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
(Moved here from my talkpage. -- DeFacto (talk). 17:55, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
Hello mate [DeFacto], I am not sure why you deleted everything I added to the "Metrication in Ireland" article. I can tell you definitively, the inner diameter of Irish plumbing pipes are still measured in inches, unlike in the UK where the pipes are measured by the outer diameter, in millimetres. The information on the section that was about plumbing was totally inaccurate, before I edited it. I don't know if you want me to call in group of researchers to create a formal report on Irish plumbing pipes, but the information I added to the section was entirely accurate. If you don't believe me, you can go on to a website of Irish hardware retailer and find out for yourself that Ireland still uses imperial pipes. Or perhaps, if you have a couple of Irish mates you could also ask them. I also created a new section on certain exceptions to Irish metrification, in order to help readers with no prior knowledge get a better understanding of the exceptions. I do not appreciate the fact you deleted everything I added, you could have at least left me a message discussing what you didn't like about my additions. I will be restoring my addition on the section "Plumbing" if you do not give me a valid response explaining the problems or errors with my addition, as the information I added was factually correct.
Kind regards Unofficialwikicorrector (talk) 17:46, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
Ireland continues to use imperial pipe diameters for both copper and plastic pipe diameters and measures pipe treads in inches or fractions of an inch, you need a source that says exactly that, and not a link to a shop selling such stuff. -- DeFacto (talk). 18:18, 3 October 2020 (UTC)