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Why does this entre article describe the definition of the ones who stole the term "Otherkin"? Why does it describe these people why say it means they are something completely else with their entire being and use it to justify their weird social behaviour etc? It's embarrassing and ruins the reputition of the ones who use this term the correct way.
Being an Otherkin means the same as being a Therian, just it's the umbrella term for those who feel a spiritual connection to a mythical non-existing creature. It's nothing else but that. StarSuicune (talk) 12:17, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
If there is or becomes sourcing on otherkin/therianthropism as simply a form of body dysphoria with no spiritual or other subcultural aspects, then we can cover that. Maybe such sourcing already exists, but until editors have reliable sources on this in-hand, we can't do anything with the article content in such a direction, certainly not based on personal-experience/viewpoint anecdote. It is natural that various approaches to such things will exist among individuals, but we can't write based on their talk-page opinions. In short, if someone feels the article is "absolutely wrong", then they have to cough up reliable sources that their viewpoint actually deserves any due coverage, and even then it is certainly not going to prove that those with a different view of this are "abus[ing] this term" and not using it "the correct way", only that there are multiple noteworthy views/approaches. See also WP:NPOV: Wikipedia is not interested in any "righting great wrongs" fringe activism viewpoint-pushing. PS: This condemnatory urge seems very closely related to the censorious and pseudo-moralizing nature of kink-shaming; even though the otherkin thing is not centrally about sexuality, it certainly has that component to it, as does furry/plushy, the vampire scene, etc. Which is to say, the more judgemental someone gets about "the other side" on a matter like this, the faster and more firmly they should be ignored. PPS: There doesn't seem to be any reliable sourcing available anywhere to support the notion that "otherkin are one of the most discriminated groups in modern times", and crank, victim-posing claims like this tend to be rather offensive to people who are actually subjected to daily discrimination and worse because of their ethnicity, gender presentation, disability, etc. No one on the bus knows you feel like a wolf or elf. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 13:24, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
I think this article should add all of the different alterhumans that exist under this category. It helps people looking for the different alterhumans find the ones their looking for, under the Otherkin umbrella. As I want to write a google slide about therians, and I mentioned Otherkin. But I can't find anything that helps me figure out the alterhumans under this umbrella. Someone who knows all of them, please edit this. ABookForToday (talk) 16:16, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
This article seems to ascribe the entire origins of this to an "elfkind" subculture, and is missing the fact that a vampire quasi-identity subculture active since the 1990s and started by Mind's Eye Theatre: The Masquerade, along with other LARP stuff which collectively also tended to overlap with various kink subcultures including furry, had an impact on this, and so has later cosplay subculture. I don't really care enough about the topic to do research on this, but someone who does, should. It's misleading to leave out the vampire and other LARP influence. Despite having already cited several sources that go into and even focus on the vamp connections, our article says nothing beyond "The therian and vampire subcultures are related to the otherkin community, and are considered part of it by most otherkin but are culturally and historically distinct movements of their own, despite some overlap in membership" (and much of that reads as original research along "my sub-subculture is magically different from yours so nyah-nyah-nyah" lines). — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 11:43, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
this article has been problematic for a long time, including several requests for rewrite that never get followed up on. most of the sources are extremely suspect (self-published, not peer-reviewed, slanted POV, original research, etc). most of the naysayers have always been identified as members of this fringe community. aside from this, there's a long history of very bad faith argumentation in this page, among other references to it, based on highly offensive comparison to oppressed groups. 2605:8D80:405:1989:42AA:52D1:2A32:7C3 (talk) 23:13, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
I'm new to editing articles and commenting or anything that needs an account on Wikipedia, but maybe use the term alterhuman? It tends to be more inclusive to other part of the community such as plantkin, or conceptkin.
also yes, I know that I'm probably doing this wrong but like i said, I'm new so sorry for any mistakes 65.117.164.210 (talk) 21:56, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
I think the lead needs some kind of image in it. CycoMa1 (talk) 13:42, 1 April 2024 (UTC)