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Do you agree or disagree with the following edit to the lead?
"Pope Joan is now widely accepted to be fictional, though the legend remains influential in art, literature, drama, and film" → "Apart from a few non-academic, popular writers, no modern authority believes that she existed, though the legend remains influential in art, literature, drama, and film." Scolaire (talk) 21:08, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Apart from a few non-academic, popular writersbecause it is supported by WP:WEASELWORDS and if it is only
a few non-academic, popular writersthen the opinion of these few at the lead is WP:UNDUEWEIGHT and compared to the body of modern scholarship is simply not worthy of mention at the lead. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 21:49, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Both "is now widely accepted" and "Apart from a few non-academic, popular writers" are weasel words.I disagree. The former is a fair assessment of the state of the current scholarship, which is supported in the article body with reliable sources and represents the opinions of all modern scholars. The latter uses the weasel expression
Apart from a few non-academic...to give undue weight to two, non-academic lay people. There is a big difference between the two cases. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 23:46, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
This paragraph seems to come straight from a Listverse article:
The sede stercoraria, the throne with a hole in the seat, now at St. John Lateran (the formal residence of the popes and center of Catholicism), is to be considered. This and other toilet-like chairs were used in the consecration of Pope Pascal II in 1099.[1] In fact, one is still in the Vatican Museums, another at the Musée du Louvre. The reason for the configuration of the chair is disputed. It has been speculated that they originally were Roman bidets or imperial birthing stools, which because of their age and imperial links were used in ceremonies by Popes intent on highlighting their own imperial claims (as they did also with their Latin title, Pontifex Maximus).
It also doesn't seem consistent with other information I've found. What should be done? OneGyTT|C 20:15, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
Anyone remember a documentary about Pope Joan done by (I think) Diane Sawyer?Cebr1979 (talk) 04:15, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
An anonymous user just added this in the first sentence, splitting off the last word of that sentence. This assertion is made with a text reference to "Researchers at the University of Ohio" but without a reference. A web search does not immediately turn up this or any other reference that might substantiate this as existing in academic dialog. This seems to be original research, prohibited under the Wikipedia:No original research rule. Revert? -- motorfingers : Talk 14:02, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
There are no legends of pope Joan. The only reason for saying "According to Legend" is to violate the rights of Women. That is deemed to be CyberRape. If there is any record of a Pope Joan (I think there is) then treat it like any article with any gender as its subject. Scottprovost (talk) 22:35, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
Please share your evidence of the record of Pope Joan! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8802:5800:135C:D8D0:B203:CD8:637F (talk) 01:56, 17 August 2020 (UTC)