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Quite an interesting article. I only have my reservations regarding this statement: However the legend is pure myth. It seems somewhat irresponsible to claim this, without ellaborating on the issue. I, for one, would be very interested to know why this is a myth.
I think that the issue of this being a legend or not should be covered in more depth. If this is not possible, then the statement should be removed.
And perhaps whether the 'pioneer of the intesinal transplant' Omer Moghraby is actually the pioneer of the intestinal transplant, as he did not actually finish his time at Rugby, and was also my peer while I attended (1990-1995) however I can't find any actual references on the internet to a pioneer of intestinal transplant. He is however approx 29 at this point and it would be dubious whether this distinction could be claimed for him. Perhaps it is talking about another Omer Moghraby. (the other I am referring to I googled and seems to be quite a successful doctor in London at the moment however).. KidOblivious
I wanted to include a list of Rugby's headmasters - and cannot find one for hours of googling. Other schools have such lists, and if anyone can manage to find one, please post it somewhere in the article. Thanks
Nick Michael 15:58, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
I don't know who put a citation request template on that section, but I hardly see how anyone is going to be able to cite references or sources for the words there. They must all be straight from the horses' mouths - what more does anyone want??
Nick Michael 16:11, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, it's fascinating to think that public school slang has a limited life, and is dynamic, just like slang in the 'real world'. I can vouch for most of the words in the current list as being in use when I was at Rugby (Sh, 1961-66), albeit with some exceptions: Boomer, Pig (for Levée), Speckle, Stripe, Tanner. The latter probably arose from our (inexcusably snobbish) way of mockingly pronouncing Town House - 'Tahn arse'. The others I have never heard of and presume they arose after my time.
The few words I have added to the list are absolutely authentic as of the 1960's. 'Bug' for library was used for both the libraries in the houses, and the big school ones - the 'Temple Bug.' 'Topos' is of course from Greek τόπος, meaning 'a place', and was the only acceptable word for a lavatory (whatever is it today? and why should it ever have changed?). Beak of course (I'm surprised the editor above never heard of this) is universal in schools - I believe it was originally used only for a magistrate and then spread to the schoolmaster usage (or the other way round?).
Nick Michael 17:37, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
I can see your point Adam. However, we are not talking about slang (although that is the term that has been used - incorrectly). This is actually jargon which is quite different really. I suppose you will argue that Wikipedia is not a dictionary of jargon either, but I find it a shame to remove documented historical jargon (many of these terms are no longer used at Rugby) from the article. These terms should be preserved. Where do you suggest preserving them? If they are included in Wiktionary (and they probably should), they will be dispersed; whereas anyone wanting to research Rugby School jargon (and that is not written tongue in cheek - there are many collections/dictionaries of jargon/slang by eminent researchers such as Eric Partridge) can have it all at their fingertips in this article.
Nick Michael 21:22, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
I (T. 70-74) remember "speckle" and "tanner", but not "bug", "boomer", "pig" "schtig" or "stripe". I remember a "copy" being an essay on a set topic, not a prize; and surely "shag" (meaning "not-school" in a rather abstract way, e.g. "shag clothing" = not uniform, "shagging off" = illicitly skipping a lesson (also "cutting")) should be included? And isn't "Topos" generic public school slang - c.f. If...? JohnKozak 20:39, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
As a current teacher at Rugby School, I'm sad to say that the 'tick' is no more, and none of my colleagues know about it. Quite a few of the other words in this section are also no longer used. I'm very surprised to see nothing about the LXX and XX (and the history behind these). 90.210.160.223 (talk) 16:20, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
I am a current Rugby pupil and I know that quite a few of these words are no longer used, or at least I haven't heard of them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.92.51.33 (talk) 01:13, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
Made top based on Google hits. Pity they're are still few references. There should be 20 or 30. Its not too tricky and this school should have a top 100 article. Victuallers 11:04, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
Sir Harry Paget Flashman VC KCB KCIE is a fictional character, not a real person —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.45.10.127 (talk) 20:58, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone have a record of the mass revolt that happened at Rugby School in 1797?
Yes. Have a look at
A HISTORY OF RUGBY SCHOOL BY W. H. D. ROUSE, M.A. SOMETIME FELLOW OF CHRIST'S COLLEGE, CAMBRIDGE LONDON DUCKWORTH & CO. 3, HENRIETTA STREET, COVENT GARDEN, W.C. 1898 Printed by BALLANTYNE, HANSON & Co. At the Ballantyne Press http://www.archive.org/stream/historyofrugbysc00rousuoft/historyofrugbysc00rousuoft_djvu.txt
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.7.44.27 (talk) 11:23, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
Much British Imperial expansion took place before 1828. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.97.55.83 (talk) 12:17, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
I came across this interesting book on Rugby by an assistant Master, published in 1900. Perhaps it can give more information for this Wiki entry. Bigweboy
I note that the article on Eton includes an estimate of the annual fees. The Rugby website, of course, has nothing to say about this. Would some current student or staff member (several of whom I see have posted here) care to provide a similar figure for Rugby? --184.46.15.59 (talk) 01:32, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
At present there is a discussion relating to the renaming of this category. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at this discussion page. Please note that the discussion is not a majority vote so contributions should be based on Wikipedia policies and independent sources. Cjc13 (talk) 11:27, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
These removals seem a little drastic. Conversely the "academic" section added at roughly the same time requires total re-writing.
Over the last ten years most UK public sector secondary schools have converted to academies and are therefore independent. They're independent of central government and Local Education Authority control. This development has made it all the more confusing to describe private schools as independent. If you take private healthcare; go to the BUPA article and in the opening paragraph it is described as a private hospital. If private schools have private school in the opening paragraph the link takes the reader to an article that makes explicitly clear.
Private schools, also known as independent schools, non-governmental, or nonstate schools,[1] are not administered by local, state or national governments; thus, they retain the right to select their students and are funded in whole or in part by charging their students tuition, rather than relying on mandatory taxation through public (government) funding; at some private schools students may be able to get a scholarship, which makes the cost cheaper, depending on a talent the student may have (e.g. sport scholarship, art scholarship, academic scholarship), financial need, or tax credit scholarships that might be available.
That is clear, unambiguous and unequivocal.(Garageland66 (talk) 14:12, 7 January 2017 (UTC))
This is a mess. KJP1 keeps reversing my edit so that the article starts with "Rugby School is a day and boarding public school (private and co-educational)" It's got 'private' and 'public' but doesn't have 'independent' even though it's been claimed that this is how these schools should be described and even though I deliberately included the word 'independent' as a compromise. (Garageland66 (talk) 15:13, 7 January 2017 (UTC))
(edit conflict) - Many thanks for replying, I hadn't realized you had already explained the faults in the claim. I was going to state the following:
The infoboxes for the seven historic English public schools are, at present, inconsistent. Five have the School Type listed as ‘Independent’, one has it as ‘Private’ and only one has it as ‘Public’. Can I propose that, for the sake of consistency, they all have ‘Public School’ in the infobox. They are defined as such by the 1868 Public Schools Act. Is there a consensus on this? Garageland66 (talk) 11:34, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
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