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Missing links?

Searching for "St. Joseph" takes me to this page. There are links to pages about other St. Josephs and other Biblical Josephs, but no link that would let me find place names such as St. Joseph, Missouri. Seems like a miss... Ajb61 (talk) 03:15, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I added 'and uses' in the hatnote so that may be enough to relieve readers confusion (the link leads to Saint Joseph (disambiguation). Randy Kryn (talk) 03:24, 9 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Most Chaste St. Joseph

A very limited number of sources is available on Google with regards to the official title of Most Chaste St. Joseph, which logically derives from the dogma of the Perpetual Virginity of Mary. Tha title is testisfied by the devotion to the Most Chaste Hearth of St. Joseph and to the one of the Most Blessed Virgin Mary, which were often worshiped together. The first is sourced by an book of prayers dated back to 1884, while the latter is connected with her title New Eve and Co-Redemptrix. No pages on Wikipedia are using this highly important Roman Catholic title. So it has been sourced on WP.

The complete and more correct title is Most Chaste and Pure Earth, given that chastity and purity can stay together and strenghten each other. They are something like preconditions of the other seven virtues.

Hope an uniquie and more recent source could be found and made available, possibly with some photographic or documental references related to the 19th century backwards, which would be useful to demonstrate the ancient and traditional nature of this Roman Catholic title. The role of chasitity and purity in relation to the seven virtues needs to be better clarified, with the aid of other more expert contributors. I wish to thank them in advance for any eventual improvement.Theologian81sp (talk) 14:13, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Edits

I think it is wrong to call Joseph "a New Testament figure". Since all scholars agree that Jesus existed historically, he clearly had a father (independently of religious beliefs about the Virgin birth of Jesus) and scholars usually accept that his father was indeed named Joseph (Yosef was a common name in 1st century Galilee). So I suggest we edit this page in stating that he was "a 1st century man of Nazareth" similarly to the page of Mary, mother of Jesus.-Karma1998 (talk) 00:25, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Recent edits and reverts

Section Prayers and devotions Is the following sentence compliant to WP:notability: "Pope Saint Leo XIII dedicated an oration to Saint Joseph at the end of the encyclical Quamquam pluries. Pope Saint Pius X approved the Litany of Saint Joseph and also composed the Prayer to Saint Joseph the Worker"?

Incipit

Is the title "Patron of the Roman Catholic Church" cited in the template? Is it one of the most important titles of Saint Joseph within the Roman Catholic Church? Why the following sentence has been deleted from the incipit?

On December 8, 1870, Pope Pius IX through the Sacred Congregation of Rites promulgated the decree Quemadmodum Deus that declared Saint Joseph Patron of the Universal Church, and which also raised St. Joseph’s feast of March 19 to the rank of double of the first class.[1] This official title was added to his patronages of the sick and of a happy death, due to the belief that he died in the presence of Jesus and Mary.

Section Veneration

On March 19, 1961, Pope John XXIII published the Apostolic Letter Le Voci that entrusted the Second Vatican Council to the patronage of Saint Joseph under the Latin title of Protector universalis Ecclesiae.(sources: De Carolis, Alessandro. "St Joseph: the man whom Heaven trusts". Vatican News. Archived from the original on December 8, 2020. Pope John XXIII himself, wishing to entrust the Second Vatican Council to Jesus's earthly "daddy", wrote the Apostolic Letter Le Voci in 1961. ; "Apostolic Letter "Le Voci"". Oblates of St. Joseph. March 19, 1961. Archived from the original on May 5, 2016.; Pope John XXIII (1961). Epistula Apostolica (PDF) (in Italian). Vol. 53. Typis Poliglottis Vaticanis. pp. 212–213. Archived (PDF) from the original on April 12, 2015. ((cite book)): |journal= ignored (help); "St. Joseph: Patron of Vatican Council II". March 19, 2015. Archived from the original on March 13, 2016.).

Is relevant to be acknowledged that Saint Joseph had been proclaimed the patron of the Second Vatican Council?

All of this is totally unreasonable. I intentionally avoided to sign my edits, not due to a somesort of childish behavior, but just to prevent the "block evasion policy" and with sole scope of contributing to the encyclopaedia.

It was not WP:original research. It was derived by the dissertation of E. Schilz C.I.C.M. whose title was "Il patrocinio di san Giuseppe alla luce dei due concili ecumenici". It was published in Itlaian within the review Divus Thomas. Commentarium de Philosophia et Theologia, A. LXVI, 1963, Fasc. I (Jan-Mart), pp. 66-83. The quotes of Acta Apostolicae Sedis are directly provided within this dissertation. I avoided to cite it because it isn't freely available on the web. I can upload a .pdf file on Commons. Otherwise, the same article is summarized and discussed within the Facebook group Cattolici devoti alla Sacra Famiglia di Nazareth at the following URL https://www.facebook.com/groups/522135159209981, and particularly in the topics saved on 10th August. I will translate the E. Schilz's dissertation into English for readers who are interested in that matter. I would like to avoid to say this there, but I can't be passed as somone that dreams or invents his statements. Hope that this comment will be kept online. Regards, Theologian81sp/Micheledisaveriosp

I apologize for the not idiomatic English, that seems to be understandable. I have no time to comsume in a topic that is likely to be deleted, even if I don't hope so. Regards, Theologian81sp/Micheledisaveriosp
  1. ^ "Decree Quemadmodum Deus". Oblates of St. Joseph. December 8, 1870. Archived from the original on June 2, 2014.
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