This page and the click-wrap page seem to cover essentially the same topic.

Not really, they are subtley different. - Ta bu shi da yu 02:17, 22 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent discussion

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Ta bu shi da yu 02:17, 22 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Added to the "further reading" section. Wl219 00:28, 21 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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I removed the following passage, inserted by an anonymous editor:

For the license to take legal effect, the licenser must be able to present proof of that the presumed licensee has been willing to sign away the copy owner rights granted under copyright: The international copyright treaty, Article 4, equals computer programs with literary works. Thus, computer programs are automatically placed under copyright, the latter which grants the copy owner normal rights use, and others fair use the computer material. The signing away of ones legal rights can normally only be done by a properly signed paper contract, or under some circumstances, orally if supported by witnesses or recordings, or, in even more restricted use, via electronic signatures issued by the local government, as a person charged with violating a license agreement otherwise can merely claim not knowing who opened the box or clicked the agreement box in the install software, and it is not possible for the licenser to provide proof of whom is the purported licencee, nor has the person charged any obligation to provide such proof. In addition, legal rights can only be signed away if local law admits it; so a properly signed paper contract may not be enough to abrogate copy owners rights, unless there are special legal provisions admitting it.

I removed it primarily because if the information contained in it is correct, it seems to have only a narrow application to fair use rights which are protected by coypright laws in some countries - it would not affect the validity of the shrink wrap contract more generally. Thus, it would seem more appropriate to a discussion on copyright/fair use rights than this page. It was also unsupported by evidence (the wipo reference certainly doesn't count) and certainly doesn't apply world-wide. Psychobabble 23:47, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, your parking ticket example didn't make things any clearer from where I'm sitting. I still don't see how copyright laws which may or may not enshrine fair use rights in certain countries invalidate shrink-wrap contracts more generally. At the most, they might invalidate certain clauses of shrink wrap contracts relating to fair use, but that information seems more suited to an article on fair use to me. There's all sorts of clauses which could conceivably be in shrink wrap contracts which are invalidated by statute or contract law - non-negotiable statutory warranties, penal clauses, cooling off periods. But these sorts of non-negotiable clauses apply to all contracts so I don't think they bear special mentioning here, let alone an extended discussion. Psychobabble 00:52, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]