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Wow, do some fans really believe his evilness was just added later? He's always shown signs of instability and loss of temper. I believe he was introduced in "I was made to love you," when his robot creation comes to town and attacks his girlfriend. Even then he seemed pretty unlikable and heartless. -- Wapcaplet
In 'I Was Made to Love You' I don't exactly think he was evil - I think it was Tara who pretty much explains how he's kind of pathetic. He couldn't find anyone to love him so he made someone, because deep down everyone wants to be loved. But then when he actually found someone, someone real, Katrina, he panicked and abandoned April. He probably could've dealt with it better but as the show progresses it's revealed that he's somewhat of an ass. --Lenkyliciousness 06:01, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
What, no list of appearances? —Tamfang 04:29, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
How exactly is Jonathan wearing the skin of a Nezzla demon prophetic of Warren's death? NP Chilla 13:10, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Is it right to call Warren a 'serial killer?' He's a villain, yes, and a sociopath who cares little for the well-being of others, but I don't think he counts as a 'serial killer' in any sense of the word.--MythicFox 11:14, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
I agree, he killed only two people that we know of (Katrina and Tara), and ironically intended to kill neither. The only person he tried to kill was Buffy, and he didn't do a very good job.
An editor has gone through and changed all instances of Mears to Meers. I've reverted those changes, but we may as well chat about it. The online script for "I Was Made to Love You" has Mears, the one for "Selfless" has Meers. IMDb has Meers. Any more info? --Nalvage 07:51, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
that would be me who changed it--it is meers everywhere but here. in fact, there are other common misspellings like spelling jonathan as jonathon or the fact that the fool for love script gave cecily the last name of adams, whereas in lies my parents told me, it was verified as underwood. the rule is generally to use the last one. otherwise, liam's death could be 1753, 1757 or 1783!!! however, 1753 is what appeared on all of the flashbacks and is what is written on his headstone. however, all three dates were stated canonically within both shows--2 of them by angel, himself. william also was given two dates of death. and for that matter--who was spike's sire. in all these cases, the last word becomes official.
however, i disagree with the page being reverted. it has a lot of problems and is heavily slanted against understanding warren's character arc in favor of a very superficial willow-apologist feminist view. warren wasn't a woman hater, and there is plenty of evidence to show that. what he hated was people who didn't respect him--whether it was the bullies from high school or buffy and friends' inabilities to see him as dangerous, to respect him through fear. it was the need for respect (fear is a form of respect) that drove every single one of his actions.
the worst thing willow ever did was say that warren deserved what he got. that is DENIAL. in fact, willow and warren had a lot in common. they were both abusive to their significant others (tara's mind rape) and tried to make their significant others love them by taking away their free will or knowledge of previous events. willow and warren were both hiding behind the need for power, to be respected--feared--and hiding from their similar nerdy pasts. the difference between warren and willow is that warren failed to kill who he went after, and his two murders were completely unintended (katrina and tara). willow's weren't unintended--she killed exactly whom she went after (warren and rack). --nileqt87
I cut this section: "In Part Three of the Season Eight story arc, "The Long Way Home", Warren is revealed to be the "boyfriend" that Amy Madison has been living with beneath the Hellmouth. He is still without skin and bears a considerable grudge against both Willow and Buffy."
as being non-canon.
It occurs to me that we might add something about the fact that Warren must have been brought back from the dead somehow between season 7 and 8. I say this because The First took his form multiple times in season 7, particularly "Conversations with Dead People". We don't know the circumstances of this resurrection, though presumably Amy had something to do with it. Most pressing are the questions of when, where, and why... --72.224.217.89 22:41, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
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I'm not sure that Warren should be listed as a fictional rapist. I know he tried to rape his ex-girlfriend, but that plan never actually came to pass. If setting out to rape someone makes a person a rapist, then I think it's only fair that Spike and Faith be listed under "fictional rapists" as well.
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